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What are some of the royals that were born in America or obtained American citizenship? (United States)
 
I'll try to make a list of the royals who were born in America:

Grace Kelly
Meghan Markle
Wallis Simpson
 
Queen Noor of Jordan was born in Washington, DC.
 
The obvious:

Meghan
Grace Kelly
Queen Noor
Wallis Simpson


The less obvious:

-Lee Radziwell: Jacky Kennedy's sister married Prince Stanislaw Radziwell
-Rita Hayworth: was married to Prince Aly Khan
-Marie Chantal: married to CP Pavlos of Greece
-Alexandra Miller: Marie Chantal's sister married Prince Alexandre von Furstenberg
-Kelly Rondestvedt:maried Hereditary Prince Hubterus of Sax-Coburg-Gotha
-Sarah Butler: married Prince Zeid bin Ra'ad Zeid al-Hussein
-Princess Salwa Aga Khan: was born American model Kendra Spears, married Prince Rahim Aga Khan
-Olivia Wilde married Prince Tao Ruspoli


Men as well:

-Most obvious is Chris O'Neil who is married to Princess Madeleine
-Princess Elisabeth of Yugoslavia married Henry Oxenberg



Plenty of examples of Americans marrying nobility as well.
 
Not exactly royal in terms of Princes/Princesses. Maud Windsor, daughter of Lord Frederick Windsor and Lady Frederick Windsor (Sophie Winkleman) was born in Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, California. She is 51st in the line of succession to the British throne. Maud attended the same school and in the same year as Prince George. She is Princess Eugenie's goddaughter and was a bridesmaid at her wedding. Lord Frederick Windsor was the son of Prince Michael of Kent, hence a great-grandson of George V.
 
:previous: Whether she has American citizenship, with two British parents, stands to be seen.


I forgot Grace was not the first Monaco royal bride to be American. Albert I married Alice Heine who was born in New Orleans.


Luxembourg there are a few examples as well:

-Prince Charles (who the new prince is named in part of), the brother of GD Jean was married to American Joan Dillon

-his son Prince Robert followed suit by marrying an American Julie Ongaro

-Jean's grandson Archduke Imre married American Katie Walker



Folke Bernadotte was not technically a royal but a member of the Swedish royal family. His wife Estelle was American.
 
:previous: Whether she has American citizenship, with two British parents, stands to be seen.


I forgot Grace was not the first Monaco royal bride to be American. Albert I married Alice Heine who was born in New Orleans.


Luxembourg there are a few examples as well:

-Prince Charles (who the new prince is named in part of), the brother of GD Jean was married to American Joan Dillon

-his son Prince Robert followed suit by marrying an American Julie Ongaro

-Jean's grandson Archduke Imre married American Katie Walker



Folke Bernadotte was not technically a royal but a member of the Swedish royal family. His wife Estelle was American.

Anyone born on American soil gets American citizenship, so I’d say that counts.
 
Princess Leonore of Sweden was born in New York.
 
Princess Angela:

Angela Brown, born in Panama, raised in New York City (an American citizen, and a fashion designer) married Prince Max of Liechtenstein in January 2000. They have one son, Prince Alfons Constantin Maria of Liechtenstein (born in May 2001).

Apparently, Princess Angela and her family reside in Munich. They reportedly also have a home in London, or at the least have spent time there over the years. They also often spend time in Panama. They are very low key and under-the-radar. Very few photos are available of their son, especially no public ones from around ages 8 through 15.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Angela_of_Liechtenstein

https://bwlivingwell.tumblr.com/post/4624255195/prince-maximilian-princess-angela-of-germany

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qd6JTUQt...As/s1600/779f0d97faddb3fae97a8eb38c457a8a.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/55/a4/2855a454ef4f2e07e4aaf6260bc4b348.jpg


Not royalty, but British aristocracy:

Frances Ellen Work, an 18th-century/ 19th-century American heiress and socialite married the Hon. James Boothby Burke Roche in September 1880. Roche later became 3rd Baron Fermoy. Frances is the maternal great-grandmother of Diana Princess of Wales. Her great-great grandchildren include Prince William, Prince Harry, and actor, Oliver Platt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Ellen_Work
 
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Anyone born on American soil gets American citizenship, so I’d say that counts.


In principle that is true, even if both parents are foreign citizens as in the case mentioned by Countessmeout.


There is, however, a caveat in the interpretation of the sentence: "born [...] in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the 14th amendment to the constitution. Native Americans who were subject to tribal jurisdiction ("Indians not taxed") for example were not considered "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" and, therefore, did not get US citizenship until Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 to grant citizenship to all indigenous Americans.



Similarly, the question of citizenship for children born to foreign parents on US soil was naturally raised. The Supreme Court ruled, however, in United States v. Wong Kim Ark that children born to foreign nationals who have a permanent domicile and carry out business in the United States, and are not employed in a diplomatic or other official capacity by a foreign government, are citizens of the United States.


The issue of citizenship for children of unauthorized (popularly "illegal") immigrants or "birth tourism" (people who are accidentally born in the US to non-domiciled parents), strictly speaking, has never been tested in the Supreme Court as far as I know (I may be wrong though). Some people, normally on the right like the 45th POTUS, Donald J Trump, argue that citizenship does not apply in those cases. Most liberals hold a different view and, in practice, children of illegal immigrants or of legal non-resident aliens (e.g. foreign students on a temporary visa) are treated as US citizens and get US passports provided that they present a valid US birth certificate.


I would say it is not a completely settled matter yet in law, but, as of today, I think Maud Windsor would be considered a US citizen. I am not sure if she has ever applied for a US passport though.
 
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All these women and men, there are way more, are not Royals by birth, the are married in ones, some of them are well known and some of them are not. America has no ROYALTY.
 
Albert II of Monaco had American citizenship through his mother Grace, but renounced it in his twenties, to avoid the logistical nightmare. He still has an incredibly American accent due to undergrad and other time spent on this side of the pond. It's amusing. I am not sure how many other royals talk like Americans.

I don't know if Princesses Caroline and Stephanie renounced their citizenships as well, but I would guess that they did.
 
All these women and men, there are way more, are not Royals by birth, the are married in ones, some of them are well known and some of them are not. America has no ROYALTY.


Even the married ones are not necessarily royals. For example I don't consider Wallis Simpson or Chris O'Neill to be technically royals as neither one was/is legally entitled to a royal style, e.g. HRH, but I guess that depends on how you define "royalty". I tend to follow a narrower definition.



Perhaps you could find an indigenous equivalent to "royalty" among the Native American peoples, although I think Native North American civilizations in particular lacked a concept like royalty in the Eurasian sense. Any comments on that matter?
 
Sorry, you are right. The Native North American civilization, is almost the forgotten one. I only counted the modern day ones. Maybe not the right way to say this. With the married in ones the list would be long. The married in ones have only Courtesy Titles. Some of them feel they are more Royal the the born in ones.
 
To add to the list of Americans marrying into the Aga Khan family you have Princess Fareen Aga Khan born Elizabeth Hoag in NYC.

Obviously not officially royal because she's illegitimate but another American with royal (or Princely) connections by birth would be Jazmin Grace Grimaldi.
 
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Wasn't the mother of the current King of Jordan American?
 
Wasn't the mother of the current King of Jordan American?

No Princess Muna is British by birth, born Toni Gardiner.

Queen Noor is American born Lisa Halaby.
 
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Do deposed royalty count? If so, Archduchess Kathleen of Austria is American
 
No Princess Muna is British by birth, born Toni Gardiner.

Queen Noor is American born Lisa Halaby.
Ah, yes. It was Queen Noor, I had in mind.
 
Perhaps you could find an indigenous equivalent to "royalty" among the Native American peoples, although I think Native North American civilizations in particular lacked a concept like royalty in the Eurasian sense. Any comments on that matter?
The descendants of the Hawaiian Royal family still claim royal titles and are seen by many indigenous Hawaiians as symbols of the Hawaiian nation and it's heritage.
 
Also Rita Hayworth was an American Princess. She became princess when she married Prince Aly Khan.
 
Kathleen 'Koo' Stark is an American who is a former girlfriend of Prince Andrew. She most likely would have become his wife, if not for having appeared nude in the independent film, Emily, "directed by Henry Herbert, 17th Earl of Pembroke. Uncertain whether to accept the part, Stark did so on the advice of Graham Greene, with whom she had worked the year before."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koo_Stark

I had not followed the story of Koo Stark and Prince Andrew that closely when it occurred, so I was surprised to learn that Koo (her nickname since childhood) is from a wealthy upper class American family, and that she was well-liked and fully accepted by the British royals, prior to the news of her former acting stint in Emily. Apparently, Koo remained friendly with Andrew over the years. As well, she went on to have a productive and accomplished life, but the shadow of her brush with royalty continues to taint her reputation. I didn't realize until I read more about Koo that she actually was not and has never been a 'porn star.'
 
:previous: Exactly true. Ms. Stark's " work" from a distance of 30 years seems quite mild. In fact, the former Sofia Hellqvist ..now Princess Sofia daughter in law of the king of Sweden, has a much racier portfolio by far than Koo Stark.

But Britain is not Sweden. I am not sure Sofia could have married even a minor British Royal.
 
I see from her Wiki bio that Sofia of Sweden posed in bikini underwear and was a former 'glamour model,' in addition to a couple of acting stints, one on a reality tv show. She has also studied accounting, business development and child & youth science, with advocacy on behalf of the rights of children. So she definitely has an interesting background. Sofia is also a licensed yoga instructor, and as we know, she completed nursing training last year to help out at Swedish hospitals dealing with the COVID pandemic.

If that's considered too 'racy' a background for royalty in today's world, oh well stuck-up royals with questionable hidden family backgrounds of their own aren't worth marrying into.
 
:previous: You haven't seen what I have. In fact, you have missed quite a lot. I am not going to go off topic. There is an entire thread here dedicated Sofia's colorful past.

You can also try Google but the Swedish Court scrubbed many of her photos and interviews pre Carl Phillip.

Koo was a piker in comparison.
 
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I see from her Wiki bio that Sofia of Sweden posed in bikini underwear and was a former 'glamour model,' in addition to a couple of acting stints, one on a reality tv show. She has also studied accounting, business development and child & youth science, with advocacy on behalf of the rights of children. So she definitely has an interesting background. Sofia is also a licensed yoga instructor, and as we know, she completed nursing training last year to help out at Swedish hospitals dealing with the COVID pandemic.

If that's considered too 'racy' a background for royalty in today's world, oh well stuck-up royals with questionable hidden family backgrounds of their own aren't worth marrying into.

CP and Sofia did face a lot of opposition to their relationship and later marriage but it wasn't necessarily all from the Swedish Royal Family, but from the media and public who weren't best pleased to put it mildly with the idea of a Princess who posed naked with a snake wrapped around her. Judgemental? Yes. But they kept on their path and she seems accepted these days. A lot of families all over the world might raise their eyes at the idea of a glamour model girlfriend before they got to know her as a person. It wasn't just a couple of bikini pics either. But they *were* allowed to get married and are currently working members of the SRF who don't cause much controversy and it was her choice to pursue the relationship as well as his.

It should also be noted that "Mary the estate agent" got some stick for "being extremely average" among other things before proving herself as a Crown Princess.

In the UK I was never under the impression that Koo Stark was a porn actress. The papers used to mention her "racy" past and sexy scenes but I had never been under the impression that she did porn per se. But that's the difference between the 80s and today.

I think if you date a royal then your often forever "tainted" by it by the media as it's something they always mention. Ruthie Henshall is a very accomplished actress but some headlines still lead with "Prince Edward's ex Ruthie Henshall" when talking about her. When Sabrina Guinness got married she was dubbed "Prince Charles's ex gets married" even though she's a very accomplished woman and it was 40 years ago.
 
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:previous: I need to clarify that I have changed my previously low opinion of Sofia. She works hard and hasn't put a foot wrong. She is beautiful and well turned out.

I only brought her up to provide an example of the way times have changed about what is/is not accepted in European Royal families.
 
I think women in general are sexualized, marginalized and then slammed for exerting control over their own sexuality for whatever reason, either to make a living or to engage in pursuits they find fulfilling and enjoyable.

It is a person's overall character, upbringing and behavior that matters, regardless of so-called 'racy' pictures that are out there. Misogyny and misogynoir abound in our culture.
 
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