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02-28-2021, 03:59 PM
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American Royalty
What are some of the royals that were born in America or obtained American citizenship? (United States)
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02-28-2021, 04:07 PM
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I'll try to make a list of the royals who were born in America:
Grace Kelly
Meghan Markle
Wallis Simpson
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02-28-2021, 04:10 PM
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Queen Noor of Jordan was born in Washington, DC.
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02-28-2021, 04:28 PM
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The obvious:
Meghan
Grace Kelly
Queen Noor
Wallis Simpson
The less obvious:
-Lee Radziwell: Jacky Kennedy's sister married Prince Stanislaw Radziwell
-Rita Hayworth: was married to Prince Aly Khan
-Marie Chantal: married to CP Pavlos of Greece
-Alexandra Miller: Marie Chantal's sister married Prince Alexandre von Furstenberg
-Kelly Rondestvedt:maried Hereditary Prince Hubterus of Sax-Coburg-Gotha
-Sarah Butler: married Prince Zeid bin Ra'ad Zeid al-Hussein
-Princess Salwa Aga Khan: was born American model Kendra Spears, married Prince Rahim Aga Khan
-Olivia Wilde married Prince Tao Ruspoli
Men as well:
-Most obvious is Chris O'Neil who is married to Princess Madeleine
-Princess Elisabeth of Yugoslavia married Henry Oxenberg
Plenty of examples of Americans marrying nobility as well.
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02-28-2021, 04:32 PM
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Not exactly royal in terms of Princes/Princesses. Maud Windsor, daughter of Lord Frederick Windsor and Lady Frederick Windsor (Sophie Winkleman) was born in Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, California. She is 51st in the line of succession to the British throne. Maud attended the same school and in the same year as Prince George. She is Princess Eugenie's goddaughter and was a bridesmaid at her wedding. Lord Frederick Windsor was the son of Prince Michael of Kent, hence a great-grandson of George V.
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02-28-2021, 04:43 PM
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 Whether she has American citizenship, with two British parents, stands to be seen.
I forgot Grace was not the first Monaco royal bride to be American. Albert I married Alice Heine who was born in New Orleans.
Luxembourg there are a few examples as well:
-Prince Charles (who the new prince is named in part of), the brother of GD Jean was married to American Joan Dillon
-his son Prince Robert followed suit by marrying an American Julie Ongaro
-Jean's grandson Archduke Imre married American Katie Walker
Folke Bernadotte was not technically a royal but a member of the Swedish royal family. His wife Estelle was American.
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02-28-2021, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Countessmeout
 Whether she has American citizenship, with two British parents, stands to be seen.
I forgot Grace was not the first Monaco royal bride to be American. Albert I married Alice Heine who was born in New Orleans.
Luxembourg there are a few examples as well:
-Prince Charles (who the new prince is named in part of), the brother of GD Jean was married to American Joan Dillon
-his son Prince Robert followed suit by marrying an American Julie Ongaro
-Jean's grandson Archduke Imre married American Katie Walker
Folke Bernadotte was not technically a royal but a member of the Swedish royal family. His wife Estelle was American.
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Anyone born on American soil gets American citizenship, so I’d say that counts.
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03-01-2021, 01:31 AM
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Princess Leonore of Sweden was born in New York.
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03-01-2021, 05:22 AM
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Princess Angela:
Angela Brown, born in Panama, raised in New York City (an American citizen, and a fashion designer) married Prince Max of Liechtenstein in January 2000. They have one son, Prince Alfons Constantin Maria of Liechtenstein (born in May 2001).
Apparently, Princess Angela and her family reside in Munich. They reportedly also have a home in London, or at the least have spent time there over the years. They also often spend time in Panama. They are very low key and under-the-radar. Very few photos are available of their son, especially no public ones from around ages 8 through 15.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince..._Liechtenstein
https://bwlivingwell.tumblr.com/post...ela-of-germany
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Qd6JTUQtq...b38c457a8a.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/28/55...260bc4b348.jpg
Not royalty, but British aristocracy:
Frances Ellen Work, an 18th-century/ 19th-century American heiress and socialite married the Hon. James Boothby Burke Roche in September 1880. Roche later became 3rd Baron Fermoy. Frances is the maternal great-grandmother of Diana Princess of Wales. Her great-great grandchildren include Prince William, Prince Harry, and actor, Oliver Platt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frances_Ellen_Work
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03-01-2021, 05:56 AM
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Anyone born on American soil gets American citizenship, so I’d say that counts.
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In principle that is true, even if both parents are foreign citizens as in the case mentioned by Countessmeout.
There is, however, a caveat in the interpretation of the sentence: "born [...] in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" in the 14th amendment to the constitution. Native Americans who were subject to tribal jurisdiction ("Indians not taxed") for example were not considered "subject to the jurisdiction of the United States" and, therefore, did not get US citizenship until Congress passed the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924 to grant citizenship to all indigenous Americans.
Similarly, the question of citizenship for children born to foreign parents on US soil was naturally raised. The Supreme Court ruled, however, in United States v. Wong Kim Ark that children born to foreign nationals who have a permanent domicile and carry out business in the United States, and are not employed in a diplomatic or other official capacity by a foreign government, are citizens of the United States.
The issue of citizenship for children of unauthorized (popularly "illegal") immigrants or "birth tourism" (people who are accidentally born in the US to non-domiciled parents), strictly speaking, has never been tested in the Supreme Court as far as I know (I may be wrong though). Some people, normally on the right like the 45th POTUS, Donald J Trump, argue that citizenship does not apply in those cases. Most liberals hold a different view and, in practice, children of illegal immigrants or of legal non-resident aliens (e.g. foreign students on a temporary visa) are treated as US citizens and get US passports provided that they present a valid US birth certificate.
I would say it is not a completely settled matter yet in law, but, as of today, I think Maud Windsor would be considered a US citizen. I am not sure if she has ever applied for a US passport though.
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03-01-2021, 12:45 PM
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All these women and men, there are way more, are not Royals by birth, the are married in ones, some of them are well known and some of them are not. America has no ROYALTY.
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03-01-2021, 12:58 PM
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Albert II of Monaco had American citizenship through his mother Grace, but renounced it in his twenties, to avoid the logistical nightmare. He still has an incredibly American accent due to undergrad and other time spent on this side of the pond. It's amusing. I am not sure how many other royals talk like Americans.
I don't know if Princesses Caroline and Stephanie renounced their citizenships as well, but I would guess that they did.
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03-01-2021, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by REAL COUNTESS
All these women and men, there are way more, are not Royals by birth, the are married in ones, some of them are well known and some of them are not. America has no ROYALTY.
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Even the married ones are not necessarily royals. For example I don't consider Wallis Simpson or Chris O'Neill to be technically royals as neither one was/is legally entitled to a royal style, e.g. HRH, but I guess that depends on how you define "royalty". I tend to follow a narrower definition.
Perhaps you could find an indigenous equivalent to "royalty" among the Native American peoples, although I think Native North American civilizations in particular lacked a concept like royalty in the Eurasian sense. Any comments on that matter?
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03-01-2021, 02:06 PM
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Sorry, you are right. The Native North American civilization, is almost the forgotten one. I only counted the modern day ones. Maybe not the right way to say this. With the married in ones the list would be long. The married in ones have only Courtesy Titles. Some of them feel they are more Royal the the born in ones.
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03-01-2021, 02:46 PM
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To add to the list of Americans marrying into the Aga Khan family you have Princess Fareen Aga Khan born Elizabeth Hoag in NYC.
Obviously not officially royal because she's illegitimate but another American with royal (or Princely) connections by birth would be Jazmin Grace Grimaldi.
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03-01-2021, 04:04 PM
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Wasn't the mother of the current King of Jordan American?
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03-01-2021, 04:07 PM
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Wasn't the mother of the current King of Jordan American?
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No Princess Muna is British by birth, born Toni Gardiner.
Queen Noor is American born Lisa Halaby.
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03-01-2021, 04:22 PM
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I'll try to make a list of the royals who were born in America:
Grace Kelly
Meghan Markle
Wallis Simpson
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Rita Hayworth married a prince.
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03-01-2021, 05:36 PM
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Do deposed royalty count? If so, Archduchess Kathleen of Austria is American
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