Swedish State Visit to France: December 2-4, 2014


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The state dinner was, indeed, highly degrading, insulting, cheap and totally flipflopesque :

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wartenberg7 said:
Well, the way you and I might have been brought up is, as you stated correctly, common courtesy, but not the royal one!
Different rules for heads of state! Queen- or Prince consorts always walk a few steps behind. In the old days this rule was even stricter than today; A Queen (consort) or a Crown Princess (outranked by her husband, the future monarch) walking down the stairs of a plane and shaking hands of officials before her husband did so, would have been quite unheard of, a harsh disregard of protocol!
Nowadays these rules don´t seem to be that strict on every occasion anymore. But I remember a documentary about late King Baudouin of Belgium when his wife, Qu. Fabiola, refused very firmly to reach a journalist (who just wanted to be polite) a hand before her husband did!
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Really? I had no idea about that. I was sure a king would have his queen by his side when walking together. I've always assumed that the "few steps after" rule only applied to male consorts of a higher ranking women. Thank you for the information.


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Nico said:
The state dinner was, indeed, highly degrading, insulting, cheap and totally flipflopesque :
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Hmm well even if that was the case I seriously doubt the Queen getting the runs by the sight of her husband in a suit.


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I hope it wasn't food poisoning that has incapacitated the Queen ?
 
wyevale said:
I hope it wasn't food poisoning that has incapacitated the Queen ?
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But yes of course ! You know it's very common to serve tainted meat during so called State Dinner in France !
 
The king hosted a dinner on Wednesday evening in Palais de Chaillot.
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The menu
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Some guests had a nice view from their table
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Expressen writes that it turned out that the queen had suffered food poisoning after the gala dinner with President Hollande. The Queen was one of those who got food poisoning of lobster from Bretagne which was served an appetizer.
The king was still in a good mood when he summed up the two days: Fantastic programs and immensely rewarding for all of us who are here. That's the whole thing with a state visit to establish contacts and opportunities. I think we have succeeded tremendously well and the journey is still far from over.
About the government crisis in Sweden the king said: I hope there will be something good for Sweden in the long run. I have been informed of what had happened the past few days and we'll see to the future. From something bad will usually come something good.
About the meeting with Zlatan the king said: Yes, he is undeniably a role model and a strong symbolic value for Sweden. It was a short meeting, but we talked much about integration issues as they work very effectively with and make an admirable effort. It was good that he had a suit on, and did not come in soccer clothes, it had been difficult, said the king, laughing lightly.
The king notes that all young people who were in the meeting, got an "extra kick" to see the Ibrahimovic: He gives these young people the little extra energy. The extra kick.
Zlatan has repeatedly expressed his admiration for the king, your comment?
The king is a little embarrassed: Yes, it's nice that he thinks so, thank you.
The king is waiting for the Nobel ceremonies: It is an extremely pleasant and happy occasion. Prize winners from all over the world and a lot of interesting conversations. To an outsider, it may seem heavy and inconvenient, but it is certainly not.
The whole family gathered for the first time. The King's expectations?
- That they will appreciate it and think it's nice, because that's exactly what it is.
Hollandes hummer fick Silvia på fall Nyheter Expressen
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Galleries from the two first days from ParisMatch
La visite de Carl XVI Gustaf et Silvia en France - Le couple royal de Suède et Zlatan, ici c'est Paris
Visite du roi et de la reine de Suède en France - Carl XVI Gustaf à Paris, un second jour sans Silvia
 
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The king and queen should arrive to Toulouse at 10.00. The program of the day
Airbus, Capitole, Saint-Sernin, CNES le roi de Suède Carl-Gustaf (et madame) en visite d'Etat jeudi à Toulouse - France 3 Midi-Pyrénées
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Meeting with the mayor of Toulouse at 12.25.
Le Maire de Toulouse reçoit le roi et la reine de Suède - Actualité Toulouse du 03 12 2014
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Looks like a very busy day again.

The king and queen have arrived to Toulouse
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Visit to Airbus.
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The king and queen speak with Didier Evrard, Airbus A350 programme chief, during a visit of an Airbus A350 at Airbus headquarters in Toulouse
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Visit at the final assembly line of Airbus A350
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The king and queen visited the L'Académie des Jeux floraux (one of the oldest known literary societies) at Hotel Assézat. It was founded in 1323 and got the status as academy in 1694 from Louis XIV.

The king and queen meet the mayor of Toulouse.
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The king and queen at Basilica of Saint-Sernin with archbishop Robert le Gall and vicar Vincent Gallois
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Queen Silvia is looking good (again) in These pics after her Food poisoning. thank God.
What a shame for the Country (and the cook).... poisoning the Special Guest (and some others I assume) at the Gala Dinner of the State Visit. Has this ever happen before on other State Visits?
BYe Bine
 
I saw the Speech of President Hollande at the State Dinner. The King of Sweden was absolutely not listening to , he was busy with a sheet of paper . Was it his own speech?
 
maria-olivia said:
I saw the Speech of President Hollande at the State Dinner. The King of Sweden was absolutely not listening to , he was busy with a sheet of paper . Was it his own speech?
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I would think that the speeches are as translated versions at the program on the tables. The same when the king was speaking, the president wasn't listening at all.

Visiting CNES, the Centre National d’Etudes Spatiales (CNES), a government agency responsible for shaping and implementing France’s space policy in Europe.
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Bine221 said:
Queen Silvia is looking good (again) in These pics after her Food poisoning. thank God.
What a shame for the Country (and the cook).... poisoning the Special Guest (and some others I assume) at the Gala Dinner of the State Visit. Has this ever happen before on other State Visits?
BYe Bine
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It's not technically a food poisoning, The Queen got apparently a less glamorous gastroenteritis.

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Thanks ladyfinn - so the King of Sweden doesn't understand french at all. Sad !
 
Bine221 said:
Right.... but there is the "official Version" and the unofficial one :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::whistling::whistling::whistling:

According to Bunte: "It was the fault of Hollandes lobster"
Königin Silvia : Hollandes Hummer war schuld! | BUNTE.de

Bye Bine
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Bunte is just quoting the article in Expressen , which I wrote here in the morning. Johan T Lindwall wrote in it that the queen got food poisoning of the lobster of Bretagne at the dinner. Lindwall wrote that it was thought at first that it was a stomach flu but later it was found that it was a food poisoning, which also several other people had got.

The king and queen at CNES (National Centre for Space Studies)
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The king and queen talked with the press in CNES
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Bine221 said:
Right.... but there is the "official Version" and the unofficial one :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::whistling::whistling::whistling:

According to Bunte: "It was the fault of Hollandes lobster"
Königin Silvia : Hollandes Hummer war schuld! | BUNTE.de

Bye Bine
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And i'm still searching a single line of this royal food poisoning in the French press ... The same about the "several other guests" apparently intoxicated during the same dinner : not a single word.
A bit fishy ;) ...
 
Nico said:
It's not technically a food poisoning, The Queen got apparently a less glamorous gastroenteritis.

Krishantering och magsjuka i Paris | Inrikes | SvD
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Oh I think gastroenteritis is far more glamorous a term than food poisoning and could still have been caused by food poisoning if the type of gastroenteritis was bacterial and not viral. Poor Queen Silvia! I will never look at a lobster in the same way again!
 
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LadyFinn said:
Video of the visit to Toulouse and the meeting with press, where queen Silvia speaks french.
Toulouse Visite de leurs Majestés le Roi et la Reine de Suède #suedefrance2014 @Kungahuset - Vidéo PoliticVisio France

Visit to the Capitol, hosted by mayor Jean Luc Moudenc
Réception au Capitole de leurs Majestés de Suède - Réception au Capitole de leurs Majestés de Suède - Toulouse.fr
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I believe this is the first video we have of the Queen speaking French. It is listed as one of her 6 languages but I don't recall we have ever heard her speak it. We have heard Swedish, English, Portuguese, German, and now French. I don't think we have heard the Spanish before either. I do know that she at one point was fluent in Swedish Sign Language as well.
 
Jacknch said:
Oh I think gastroenteritis is far more glamorous a term than food poisoning and could still have been caused by food poisoning if the type of gastroenteritis was bacterial and not viral. Poor Queen Silvia! I will never look at a lobster in the same way again!
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it reminded me:
Queen Elizabeth II has developed a simple formula to stay well when abroad, a British lawmaker revealed . “I once asked a courtier how she did it. To which I received the characteristic reply: 'By not eating salads, shellfish and watermelon while travelling',” Peter Tapsell told the House of Commons.
No salads or shellfish: queen’s travel tips - IOL Travel Tips | IOL.co.za
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Her staff ensure that nothing she eats or drinks is likely to raise her body temperature.
Local delicacies are not encouraged in case of stomach upsets. Neither is shellfish — crab, lobster, cockles, mussels and oysters are all no-nos.
So why does the Queen never sneeze in public? Mail has a light-heated look at Her Majesty's little secrets | Daily Mail Online
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