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Old 09-24-2013, 09:54 AM
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Following "The Kiss", he might even get another 15 minute visit from the Queen!
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Old 09-24-2013, 06:49 PM
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The surgery was completed. The surgeon has placed the king a provisional prosthesis with antibiotic and after an antibiotic treatment, in about eight weeks, the king will undergo another surgery to place the definitive prosthesis.

The royal family has already left the hospital.

El Rey tendr que operarse de nuevo en unas ocho semanas | España | elmundo.es

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Old 09-24-2013, 09:35 PM
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El Rey ingresa en el hospital para su intervencin de cadera - Espaa - abc.es
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:49 AM
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How long will the King stay in hospital? Another surgery in 8 weeks must be quite difficult for and tiring for him.
I must say Letizia looks really good!
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:11 AM
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Why must it be insecurity when confirming protocol for certain events during the King's recovery?
Maybe it is selfish or egomanic not to share power, but that is the trait of a king, you see the same thing in Britain, Sweden or Denmark.
Sofia is the same, she is not tired to say that Felipe has to wait and is very aware of her position as Queen. You can call it old school but this generation thinks that monarchy is for life.
The life story of Juan Carlos and Sofia gives so many answers to all the questions that people are now debating, not understanding why they are acting the way they do.
There has never been the need for Juan Carlos to be insecure because he has been the most powerful and influencial monarch compared to his european counterparts. Felipe will inherit none of this and compared to his father, he won't have much to say. The ruling elite is entangled with Juan Carlos and they will cut back Felipe to what they think is sufficient, he will be reduced to what he is supposed to be on paper. Juan Carlos was and still is so much more.
Sofia had only said it once in her biography a few years ago, it was the media, mainly JC's supporters such as Jaime Penafiel, had been repeating her statement again and again. Some of the most powerful dictators were also the most insecure persons, plus JC's power or connection has gradually diminished due to the wave of new generation leaders, especially in South America. Once those aging leaders in the Middle East are gone, JC pretty much doesn't have much left.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:32 AM
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Reverse sexism among Royal-watchers..

Though I have always found it at highest levels of monarchy, there is no more striking exampe for reverse sexism among us TRF posters, than the present situation...

If a female monarch decides to stick to the throne forever, then it is "devotion to duty".."selfless service'.."abiding to vows"..etc etc
But if a male monarch does the same, then he is arrogant, selfish, egomaniac, insecure.......

If the children of a female monarch do something wrong, then they are the ones to be wronged..Poor Queen was so busy we cant blame her for upbringing issues..
But if the children of a male monarch do something wrong, then everything is blamed on him..he raised them that way..he encouraged them to do illegal things..he is shielding them..he is influencing things to get them away...

Just a few examples..
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:34 AM
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Family reunion at the clinic (minus the Palmas)
Los Borbones, una familia unida en la clínica Quirón - Noticias de Casas Reales

the police had to take away a streaker, a naked protester who tried to enter the hospital
La operación del Rey ha concluido con éxito a las 23:30 horas de la noche - Noticias de Casas Reales
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:12 AM
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Though I have always found it at highest levels of monarchy, there is no more striking exampe for reverse sexism among us TRF posters, than the present situation...

If a female monarch decides to stick to the throne forever, then it is "devotion to duty".."selfless service'.."abiding to vows"..etc etc
But if a male monarch does the same, then he is arrogant, selfish, egomaniac, insecure.......

If the children of a female monarch do something wrong, then they are the ones to be wronged..Poor Queen was so busy we cant blame her for upbringing issues..
But if the children of a male monarch do something wrong, then everything is blamed on him..he raised them that way..he encouraged them to do illegal things..he is shielding them..he is influencing things to get them away...

Just a few examples..
How right you are !
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Though I have always found it at highest levels of monarchy, there is no more striking exampe for reverse sexism among us TRF posters, than the present situation...

If a female monarch decides to stick to the throne forever, then it is "devotion to duty".."selfless service'.."abiding to vows"..etc etc
But if a male monarch does the same, then he is arrogant, selfish, egomaniac, insecure.......

If the children of a female monarch do something wrong, then they are the ones to be wronged..Poor Queen was so busy we cant blame her for upbringing issues..
But if the children of a male monarch do something wrong, then everything is blamed on him..he raised them that way..he encouraged them to do illegal things..he is shielding them..he is influencing things to get them away...

Just a few examples..
You are 100% correct.
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If you could bring up a factually similar case to that of JC, Inaki, and Cristina, I would consider it.
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:09 AM
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El Rey pasa su primera noche hospitalizado tras la operación de cadera | Realeza | Noticias hola.com

http://www.hola.com/realeza/casa_esp...-parte-medico/
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Old 09-25-2013, 11:42 AM
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Well QMII has had hip or knee replacements. She was unable to make a state visit to Chile because she could not take the long journey. When she is out and about on engagements in Denmark her aids have a chair at the ready in case she feels pain and needs to sit awhile, No one seems to be calling for her to step aside or claiming she is too old and needs to be put out to pasture to let a younger generation take over.
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Well QMII has had hip or knee replacements. She was unable to make a state visit to Chile because she could not take the long journey. When she is out and about on engagements in Denmark her aids have a chair at the ready in case she feels pain and needs to sit awhile, No one seems to be calling for her to step aside or claiming she is too old and needs to be put out to pasture to let a younger generation take over.
That is understandable, if you think the possibility of Frederik as a King. Maybe the people in Denmark realize that he isn't ready for being a regent yet.
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Old 09-25-2013, 01:51 PM
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That is understandable, if you think the possibility of Frederik as a King. Maybe the people in Denmark realize that he isn't ready for being a regent yet.
I dont think its that. Polls have shown that people support Frederik and think he is ready. Plus, Frederik has been regent (he is currently regent from the 21st to the 30th)

I think its more that people like the Queen and feel she has and is doing a good job. Plus abdication is not a tradition in Denmark.


back to the topic, I hope the King recovers and gets the rest he needs
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:15 PM
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GracieG,
Well QMII has had hip or knee replacements. She was unable to make a state visit to Chile because she could not take the long journey. When she is out and about on engagements in Denmark her aids have a chair at the ready in case she feels pain and needs to sit awhile, No one seems to be calling for her to step aside or claiming she is too old and needs to be put out to pasture to let a younger generation take over.
I think you're missing the overall point. If JC were the JC of old, the one who brought democracy to Spain and created all the "juan carlistas,", you'd have a point. I really don't believe people would be calling for him to step aside under the circumstances. When people call upon JC to step aside due to his knee, his hip, his age, it's really due to the underlying scandal, the underlying crimes which have allegedly been committed by members of his family and of which evidence indicates he had some knowledge and helped to arrange golden parachutes for his family. I know of no female monarch in even a remotely comparable situation.

I really don't see how anyone can overlook the Urdangarin situation when assessing the motivations and underlying prejudices of people who call for him and not Margrethe or Elizabeth or until recently Beatrix to step aside.
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:21 PM
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Why Cristina must always have her secretary Carlos García Revenga with her?
Aren't there any less contradictory persons to take her to the hospital?
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Old 09-25-2013, 03:31 PM
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Why Cristina must always have her secretary Carlos García Revenga with her?
Aren't there any less contradictory persons to take her to the hospital?
Because both infantas are living in another world, Revenga is a permanent character in their public and private life, and they do not seem to understand how harmful it is for the Crown that this man always appears beside them.

The Royal House should not allow it, he should be removed from all public activity until the courts resolve all doubts about him... but I imagine that the infantas defend him to the end.
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Infanta Elena and her son Don Felipe Juan de Marichalar visit the King in hospital.


La infanta Elena y su hijo Felipe visitan al Rey

Spanish royal family rally round King Juan Carlos after hip operation

Spanish royal family rally round King Juan Carlos after hip operation - hellomagazine.com
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