King Juan Carlos - Fiscal Investigations, Inheritance and Exile : 2018-2022


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Corinna was already giving interviews, every time she talks she burns even more.
Comparing yourself to Wallis Simpson or Meghan is just ridiculous.
 
Corinna Larsen gave an exclusive interview to okdiario.com
 
Thank you Blog Real, a lot that Corinna says about the family (JC's dislike of Letizia, the separate lives of the Kings, his multiple affairs, Inaki and Cristina, the assumed knowledge of the casa Noos), has been public knowledge anyway for many years and is therefore credible, some things you can believe or not believe, like the conspiracy for abdication, or the family trying to shut her up, but nothing of what she says sounds too far fetched only to paint herself in a favorable light.
 
Such a shame the questions are not translated in English.
 
I always thought the marriage was similar to Princess Margaret and Tony Armstrong-Jones; both marriages started to unravel fairly quickly.
 
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Duke of Marmalade said:
Thank you Blog Real, a lot that Corinna says about the family (JC's dislike of Letizia, the separate lives of the Kings, his multiple affairs, Inaki and Cristina, the assumed knowledge of the casa Noos), has been public knowledge anyway for many years and is therefore credible, some things you can believe or not believe, like the conspiracy for abdication, or the family trying to shut her up, but nothing of what she says sounds too far fetched only to paint herself in a favorable light.
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Nevertheless, her attempt to portray herself as a righteous victim is rather odd when she is the one who may be under possible criminal investigation.

I am also skeptical of her alleged knowledge of the inner workings of the Royal House and the Royal Family (including Iñaki, Letizia, etc.)
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
Thank you Blog Real, a lot that Corinna says about the family (JC's dislike of Letizia, the separate lives of the Kings, his multiple affairs, Inaki and Cristina, the assumed knowledge of the casa Noos), has been public knowledge anyway for many years and is therefore credible, some things you can believe or not believe, like the conspiracy for abdication, or the family trying to shut her up, but nothing of what she says sounds too far fetched only to paint herself in a favorable light.
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Corinna has been so far quiet on Letizia lets hope it stays that way.
 
Interesting to see Corinna talk, always such a difference from judging people only from photos. Although we probably all formed our opinion about her, she appears to be quite articulate and intelligent in her responses.
 
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Marengo said:
Interesting to see Corinna talk, always such a difference from judging people only from photos. Although we probably all formed our opinion about her, she appears to be quite articulate and intelligent in her responses.
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She is certainly an articulate and intelligent woman. Her career aside, she managed to get 65 M euros transferred to her. You don't achieve that by being dumb!
 
It is interesting that the Spanish interviewer felt it necessary to ask Corinna if Juan Carlos had spoken to her about how he felt about Felipe "marrying a journalist", to which Corinna answered the King was "pretty much against it in the beginning" and, accordingly, that Letizia's early years in the Royal Family must have been "difficult".

Regardless of JC's opinion, it is surprising that, even today, being a commoner and a professional woman is still held against Letizia by the Spanish press itself.
 
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Mbruno said:
It is interesting that the Spanish interviewer felt it necessary to ask Corinna if Juan Carlos had spoken to her about how he felt about Felipe "marrying a journalist", to which Corinna answered the King was "pretty much against in the beginning" and, accordingly, that Letizia's early years in the Royal Family must have been "difficult".

Regardless of JC's opinion, it is surprising that, until today, being a commoner and a professional woman is still held against Letizia by the Spanish press itself.
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Although a big part of if, I don't think Queen Letizia's background is the only way to explain people's dislike of her. Spanish media is notoriously vile and this coupled with Catalonian separatism and a large republican sentiment amongst the population probably has created the perfect storm regarding Letizia's popularity. It's always been their custom to go after the Royal women. Something made easier by Juan Carlos' open dislike for Letizia and his many affairs that affected people's perception of his wife. Don't forget that both Spanish media and a large part of the Spanish population hated Queen Sofia for many years. Ridiculing her for her Greek accent, looking down on her for preferring to socialise with her relatives instead of with the Spanish aristocracy, going after her for her dislike of bullfighting, whispers about how a more hot blooded woman would have been able to keep her husband at home etc...
 
JR76 said:
Although a big part of if, I don't think Queen Letizia's background is the only way to explain people's dislike of her. Spanish media is notoriously vile and this coupled with Catalonian separatism and a large republican sentiment amongst the population probably has created the perfect storm regarding Letizia's popularity. It's always been their custom to go after the Royal women. Something made easier by Juan Carlos' open dislike for Letizia and his many affairs that affected people's perception of his wife. Don't forget that both Spanish media and a large part of the Spanish population hated Queen Sofia for many years. Ridiculing her for her Greek accent, looking down on her for preferring to socialise with her relatives instead of with the Spanish aristocracy, going after her for her dislike of bullfighting, whispers about how a more hot blooded woman would have been able to keep her husband at home etc...
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The media in Spain has also fed a "pushy parent" image of Letizia, I remember reading articles about apparent cases where she has publicly argued with parents from Leonor's class at the time (the usual "a source said"!). It's similar to Meghan's persona in the media - she's being portrayed as bossy and controlling, though we will never know what the royals "real" personality is.
 
JR76 said:
Although a big part of if, I don't think Queen Letizia's background is the only way to explain people's dislike of her. Spanish media is notoriously vile and this coupled with Catalonian separatism and a large republican sentiment amongst the population probably has created the perfect storm regarding Letizia's popularity. It's always been their custom to go after the Royal women. Something made easier by Juan Carlos' open dislike for Letizia and his many affairs that affected people's perception of his wife. Don't forget that both Spanish media and a large part of the Spanish population hated Queen Sofia for many years. Ridiculing her for her Greek accent, looking down on her for preferring to socialise with her relatives instead of with the Spanish aristocracy, going after her for her dislike of bullfighting, whispers about how a more hot blooded woman would have been able to keep her husband at home etc...
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How exactly did Sofia manage to transition from ridiculed to beloved?
 
Mbruno said:
Nevertheless, her attempt to portray herself as a righteous victim is rather odd when she is the one who may be under possible criminal investigation.

I am also skeptical of her alleged knowledge of the inner workings of the Royal House and the Royal Family (including Iñaki, Letizia, etc.)
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I don’t understand why she keeps speaking so publicly about issues that could come back to bite her in the event of an investigation. Surely any decent lawyer would tell a client in Corinna’s situation to stop talking publicly about these matters and, going forward, to say nothing that hasn’t first been cleared by the legal team?

I think she probably knew about some things - I don’t find it hard to believe her when she says that JC paid for everything for his adult children, (Felipe included), for example. And no doubt she heard lots of pillow talk about how JC currently felt about the family, his children, their spouses, etc. But she had no relationship with JC’s family members, no first hand experience of the family dynamics and therefore no way to add context to whatever JC decided to tell her.
 
Prinsara said:
How exactly did Sofia manage to transition from ridiculed to beloved?
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As a born royal Sofia was well trained for her position, she put in the hard work, did her job for Spain with a lot of empathy and without complaining despite difficult conditions (young and vulnerable monarchy, ETA terror, JC's womanizing), a good mother - many applaud her for grooming Felipe so well for his kingship (Felipe's nickname: El Preparado) - and of course a doting grandmother for all her grandchildren. From 'La Griega' to a Queen who can do no wrong, that is quite an achievement.
 
In a way, the process that occurred with Sofia is beginning to occur with Letizia.

Her daughters are growing up and gaining prominence in the press, so Letizia is no longer the only center of media attention and the pressure on her is reduced. More and more the press publishes articles saying that she had to have a more important role and have activities with more international projection.

The Corinna story is reinforcing an idea that already began with the Noos case ... the idea that perhaps Letizia and some attitudes and decisions of her were the correct ones, because she did have knowledge of circumstances that from outside were unknown.
 
Duke of Marmalade said:
As a born royal Sofia was well trained for her position, she put in the hard work, did her job for Spain with a lot of empathy and without complaining despite difficult conditions (young and vulnerable monarchy, ETA terror, JC's womanizing), a good mother - many applaud her for grooming Felipe so well for his kingship (Felipe's nickname: El Preparado) - and of course a doting grandmother for all her grandchildren. From 'La Griega' to a Queen who can do no wrong, that is quite an achievement.
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I don't understand why Sofia being a foreigner was an issue in Spain. Weren't all queens consort of Spain before her (since the 16th century) also foreigners? Or was her specific nationality (Greek) the problem? Sofia wasn't the first queen either who had to convert to Catholicism (Victoria Eugenie was originally Protestant for example).


List of Spanish consorts


EDIT: Based on the list linked above, Mercedes de Orléans, the first wife of Alfonso XII, was born in Spain even though her father was French. So I must rectify my previous statement from "all queens consort" to "almost all queens consort".
 
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Mbruno said:
I don't understand why Sofia being a foreigner was an issue in Spain. Weren't all queens consort of Spain before her (since the 16th century) also foreigners? Or was her specific nationality (Greek) the problem? Sofia wasn't the first queen either who had to convert to Catholicism (Victoria Eugenie was originally a Protestant for example).


List of Spanish consorts


EDIT: Based on the list linked above, Mercedes de Orléans, the first wife of Alfonso XII, was born in Spain even though her father was French. So I must rectify my previous statement from "all queens consort" to "almost all queens consort".
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I think it's as simple as the press thinking up things to criticise Queen Sofia for. That said Queen Ena was deeply unpopular because of an aristocratic dislike of her and because of rising republicanism. Like Sofia she did manage to turn public opinion around and was in the later years of her husband's reign one of the most popular royals because of her charity work and because she was seen as more modern than the rest of her family.
Ena's mother-in-law, Queen Maria Christina, was deeply respected because of her Habsburg heritage and because of how she very successfully handled her son's regency.
Before her most other queens were either daughters or granddaughters of a Spanish prince or a princess. Queen Sofia's mother-in-law, The Countess of Barcelona, for instance was the seventh or eighth generation of a long line of Bourbon princesses who married a Bourbon prince.
 
lula said:
In a way, the process that occurred with Sofia is beginning to occur with Letizia.

Her daughters are growing up and gaining prominence in the press, so Letizia is no longer the only center of media attention and the pressure on her is reduced. More and more the press publishes articles saying that she had to have a more important role and have activities with more international projection.
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I fully agree - and I forgot to mention something in my earlier post, Sofia never had the kind of media pressure that Letizia had to endure. Of course it's not nice to be confronted by hostility but it's even worse when it happens on a daily basis in the mass media.
 
Sofia had other pressures too,she was under the thumb of General Franco from her arrival in Spain up until his death.There was turmoil too in her homeland in the late 60's too when her brother was deposed and in exile.If anything queen Sofia is an excellent actress keeping a smile on her face.
 
lula said:
In a way, the process that occurred with Sofia is beginning to occur with Letizia.

Her daughters are growing up and gaining prominence in the press, so Letizia is no longer the only center of media attention and the pressure on her is reduced. More and more the press publishes articles saying that she had to have a more important role and have activities with more international projection.

The Corinna story is reinforcing an idea that already began with the Noos case ... the idea that perhaps Letizia and some attitudes and decisions of her were the correct ones, because she did have knowledge of circumstances that from outside were unknown.
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Let’s not pretend that Letizia’s behaviour has always been great and the press went after her for no reason. She had no problem being episodically rude and provocative from the time she married up until several years into her husband’s reign. What’s changed is that, first, she knows she did an incredible amount of damage at Palma and can’t afford another episode like that, and now, more urgently, she and Felipe must also know that, while the Spanish media and political class is currently circling the wagons around the couple and their children, a lot of them don’t actually believe that Felipe knew nothing about his father’s financial dealings. Especially since Felipe was set to inherit all the money. The royal couple and their daughters are in damage control mode for the foreseeable future; there’s no more room for egregiously bad behaviour.
 
camelot23ca said:
Let’s not pretend that Letizia’s behaviour has always been great and the press went after her for no reason. She had no problem being episodically rude and provocative from the time she married up until several years into her husband’s reign. What’s changed is that, first, she knows she did an incredible amount of damage at Palma and can’t afford another episode like that, and now, more urgently, she and Felipe must also know that, while the Spanish media and political class is currently circling the wagons around the couple and their children, a lot of them don’t actually believe that Felipe knew nothing about his father’s financial dealings. Especially since Felipe was set to inherit all the money. The royal couple and their daughters are in damage control mode for the foreseeable future; there’s no more room for egregiously bad behaviour.
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Felipe, Sofia, the infantas, the top government officials all knew JC received commissions from some business deals, although they might not know all the details, such as the amount, where the money is. JC is the father, the King, he did what he wanted to do. Even the government left a blind eye or even bet JC to help on the business deals, what could Felipe possibly do ? Felipe has not been blamed since he hasn't participated at his father's deals, neither have Sofia or infantas be blamed for JC's financial deals.
If someone had been scrutinized to millimeters, it was not hard to find something to be disliked since nobody was perfect. The Palma incident was unfortunate, but truly exaggerated, the thing Letizia did wrong was being clumsy. She should just walk up to her mother-in-law, told her to wait and take the pictures outside the Cathedral. If this incident happened a few years earlier, Letizia and Sofia reversed their role, Letizia was one who wanted the photographer to take the pictures of her and her daughters, Sofia came to stop her, I bet Letizia would still be criticized.
 
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