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Old 11-07-2018, 09:53 AM
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Delphine had a normal life until Mario Dannels wrote his book in 1999 just before Prince Philippe Engagement and Wedding. She lived in London with her Mother who divorced ong years ago from Jacques Boel.
No word from Jacques BoŽl since 1999 , he is really a Gentleman.
Dephine said serveral times Her own Children has to know who is her grandfather too.
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Old 11-07-2018, 10:28 AM
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At the end of all this, Delphine's children will know that they had a legal grandfather that was part of their mother's upbringing and perhaps a biological grandfather that, by all appearances, totally seemed to feel that he wished they never existed at all. Neither men, for all it seems, want to be their grandfather.

DNA tests are wonderful and in fact, I had mine done. As an adoptee, it gave me an identity of where I came from, what my ethnic makeup is. I know I had a biological father and mother but they don't really matter much to me other than giving me a start in life and to be able to grow up with a mom and a dad.

In this regard, I do feel for Delphine and the quandary she's in and I do hope she finds peace in resolutions. Its not about money but something she needs for her own self awareness to feel complete is the vibe I'm getting.
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:33 PM
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Thank you for your positive Post Osipi , I appreciate MO
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Old 11-07-2018, 12:41 PM
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But the strange thing is that Delphine KNOWS who her natural father is. After all her own mother has told it, with a coherent story and circumstantial backing.

From day one Jacques BoŽl has declared that the high- and wellborn jonkvrouw Delphine MichŤle Anne Marie Ghislaine BoŽl, is his daughter, born in his marriage to Sybille de Selys Longchamps. As such she is registered and known for 50+ years.

Jonkheer Jacques BoŽl happens to be one of the richest men of Belgium. So Delphine was not born with neither a silver nor a golden spoon, but with a platinum spoon in her cradle. She belonged to the most privileged families of the country.

Delphine could have had it both: a fabulous future as only child of jonkheer Jacques BoŽl Šnd to be extremely close to the King of the Belgians which possibly happened to be her father and possibly happens to be her half-brother.

I think the word which explode it all is: discretion. The omerta. When it became public, Delphine blew up the bridge to the BoŽls, a most discreet family, and she blew up the bridge to the De Belgiques, the royal family, always under heavy scrutiny.

That is the tragic in all this. Most likely both Albert, Sybille and Jacques thought that the interests of child were utmost guaranteed with this settlement. It is not exactly a pauvre outcast in an orphanage... So for Delphine's desire to have it known to the whole world, she pays a high price.

Look at the two extramarital daughters of the late Prince Bernhard: they remained discreet and now Alicia de Bielefelde as well Alexja Lejeune Grinda are totally discreet millionaires, living a discreet lifestyle.
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Old 11-07-2018, 01:08 PM
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But the strange thing is that Delphine KNOWS who her natural father is. After all her own mother has told it, with a coherent story and circumstantial backing.

From day one Jacques BoŽl has declared that the high- and wellborn jonkvrouw Delphine MichŤle Anne Marie Ghislaine BoŽl, is his daughter, born in his marriage to Sybille de Selys Longchamps. As such she is registered and known for 50+ years.

Jonkheer Jacques BoŽl happens to be one of the richest men of Belgium. So Delphine was not born with neither a silver nor a golden spoon, but with a platinum spoon in her cradle. She belonged to the most privileged families of the country.

Delphine could have had it both: a fabulous future as only child of jonkheer Jacques BoŽl Šnd to be extremely close to the King of the Belgians which possibly happened to be her father and possibly happens to be her half-brother.

I think the word which explode it all is: discretion. The onerta. When it became public, Delphine blew up the bridge to the BoŽls, a most discreet family, and she blew up the bridge to the De Belgiques, the royal family, always under heavy scrutiny.

That is the tragic in all this. Most likely both Albert, Sybille and Jacques thought that the interests of child were utmost guaranteed with this settlement. It is not exactly a pauvre outcast in an orphanage... So for Delphine's desire to have it known to the whole world, she pays a high price.

Look at the two extramarital daughters of the late Prince Bernhard: they remained discreet and now Alicia de Bielefelde as well Alexja Lejeune Grinda are totally discreet millionaires, living a discreet lifestyle.
Very nicely written!
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Old 11-07-2018, 02:16 PM
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Not likely being in her 50's she has a burning need for a 'dad' ....and any need may be (or have been) being fulfilled elsewhere.


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You're right; however I'm sure that it would still be nice, from Delphine's point of view, to have a clear definition of who your father is. She probably isn't looking for a father figure at this stage in her life but more the comfort of knowing for certain.
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I still think it's vindication for how her and her mother has been treated since the rumors came out. Albert certainly deserves it.
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I don't think it was Delphine who made it public. However, when it became public knowledge; it must have been extremely painful for her that Albert suddenly refused to acknowledge her as his child and that set all of this in motion...
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Old 11-07-2018, 02:30 PM
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Look at the two extramarital daughters of the late Prince Bernhard: they remained discreet and now Alicia de Bielefelde as well Alexja Lejeune Grinda are totally discreet millionaires, living a discreet lifestyle.
The *big* difference: P.Bernhard himself in a public interview told he had these extra-marital daughters. Had K.Albert done that, there would no need of the fuzz.
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Old 11-07-2018, 02:52 PM
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The *big* difference: P.Bernhard himself in a public interview told he had these extra-marital daughters. Had K.Albert done that, there would no need of the fuzz.
That is true, but only on his deathbed Šnd after Alicia and Alexia have been discreet all these years. I have the feeling that Prince Bernhard would have been equally stubborn alike Albert, had Alexia or Alicia run to the media:

"Wait a minute... I bought an arch expensive penthouse at the Avenue RaphaŽl in Paris, bordering the Bois de Boulogne, I sponsored her and now she bits me in the hand? No way!" I can almost film it, Prince Bernhard's reaction. I feel the Prince has acknowledged them as daughters because they played the game and followed the rules.
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That is true, but only on his deathbed Šnd after Alicia and Alexia have been discreet all these years. I have the feeling that Prince Bernhard would have been equally stubborn als Albert, had Alexia run to the media:

"Wait a minute... I bought an arch expensive penthouse at the Avenue RaphaŽl in Paris, I sponsored her and now she bits me in the hand? No way!" I can almost film it, Prince Bernhard's reaction. I feel the Prince has acknowledged them as daughters because they played the game and followed the rules.
He told her to leave him alone about this and that he's not her father as soon as the rumors came out. She was discreet before then. If he was willing to work behind the scenes and help her mother deal with that situation, I wonder what would've happened?

She knew for 12 years by 1999, and she was discreet before then.
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:08 PM
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All this shows me that one can run and hide from karma but the longer one runs away, the more exercise karma gets and the hungrier karma gets to have a good lunch. Even without the DNA sample, I believe Albert has been chomped and digested.

Albert could have faced up to the realities of his indiscretions, acknowledged it for what it was and claimed responsibility but he chose to shove it further and further in a closet without food or water until it couldn't be contained any longer and hence, legal action ensued.

Its not so much that Albert doesn't recognize Delphine as his daughter but the fact that he's done the best he can to disassociate himself from Delphine and her mother as if they're a black mark on his ego and his reputation. In my eyes, he's making a fool out of himself and not someone I'd classify as a "gentleman" or a man of character.
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Old 11-07-2018, 03:08 PM
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But the strange thing is that Delphine KNOWS who her natural father is. After all her own mother has told it, with a coherent story and circumstantial backing.

From day one Jacques BoŽl has declared that the high- and wellborn jonkvrouw Delphine MichŤle Anne Marie Ghislaine BoŽl, is his daughter, born in his marriage to Sybille de Selys Longchamps. As such she is registered and known for 50+ years.

Jonkheer Jacques BoŽl happens to be one of the richest men of Belgium. So Delphine was not born with neither a silver nor a golden spoon, but with a platinum spoon in her cradle. She belonged to the most privileged families of the country.

Delphine could have had it both: a fabulous future as only child of jonkheer Jacques BoŽl Šnd to be extremely close to the King of the Belgians which possibly happened to be her father and possibly happens to be her half-brother.

I think the word which explode it all is: discretion. The omerta. When it became public, Delphine blew up the bridge to the BoŽls, a most discreet family, and she blew up the bridge to the De Belgiques, the royal family, always under heavy scrutiny.

That is the tragic in all this. Most likely both Albert, Sybille and Jacques thought that the interests of child were utmost guaranteed with this settlement. It is not exactly a pauvre outcast in an orphanage... So for Delphine's desire to have it known to the whole world, she pays a high price.

Look at the two extramarital daughters of the late Prince Bernhard: they remained discreet and now Alicia de Bielefelde as well Alexja Lejeune Grinda are totally discreet millionaires, living a discreet lifestyle.
This is NOT just about MONEY and LIFESTYLE as is suggested, this is about honor and respect and honesty........DB has every right to know just who her parents are as we all do. There is more to life then just MONEY , there is honor of a parent doing the right thing for the child that they brought into the world.....anyone man or woman who denies their child is a soulless creature to me and I feel very strongly about that issue. DB also needs to know the medical history of all her parents as that effects her life also.

Where did decency go in this world of ours? Just because someone has money or a title does not make them any better then the next person.
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T [....] DB has every right to know just who her parents are as we all do. [...]

But she KNOWS who her father is.
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She is NOT sure and that is why this woman is fighting so hard to get the *TRUTH*, funny how that word *truth* gets most people confused as they use it to suit their own needs.
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Apparently Albert proposed to write a sealed letter to be opened after his death in which he acknowledges Delphine is his daughter.
Delphine turned this proposition down.
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2018/11...paternity-cas/
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I don't think it was Delphine who made it public. However, when it became public knowledge; it must have been extremely painful for her that Albert suddenly refused to acknowledge her as his child and that set all of this in motion...
Rumours had been doing the rounds for years. It was an unauthorized biography of Queen Paola that brought all this to light, along with adding more to the rumors about P Laurent being a cuckoo in the nest. Neither the royals or Delphine or her mother went public, that was the last thing anyone wanted. Albert is being a coward about this, and Paola isn’t helping by making demands about not recognizing her.

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Delphine turned this proposition down.
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2018/11...paternity-cas/
I don’t blame her. I would not accept such a deal either.
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At this point one wonders why on earth they are still making a problem about recognizing her. It can't be more humiliating or painful than it is at the moment with one court case after another & the publicity it brings each and every time. Especially as all of Belgium has known for years that he is her father.

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Apparently Albert proposed to write a sealed letter to be opened after his death in which he acknowledges Delphine is his daughter.
Delphine turned this proposition down.
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2018/11...paternity-cas/
What an odd proposal.
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Old 11-14-2018, 04:49 PM
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I am sure , in BelvedŤre Castle they must have had a Schock that the ADN test must happen in these 3 Months. King Albert II never expected that.
And now this sealed letter to open after his death , yes odd.
To morrrow we will see King Albert II for the first time after the Court Decision.
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Apparently Albert proposed to write a sealed letter to be opened after his death in which he acknowledges Delphine is his daughter.
Delphine turned this proposition down.
https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2018/11...paternity-cas/
I wonder whom Le Soir and Sudpresse obtained this news from: Albert's lawyers or Delphine's lawyers?

Seeing as King Albert II made his proposition only a couple of weeks before Delphine took the matter to court, I also wonder whether the proposal induced the court case or vice versa.
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