The Royal Forums Coat of Arms


Join The Royal Forums Today
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #441  
Old 12-29-2017, 06:32 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
The government is set to approve the attendance of women ministers at the "Presentation of the Three Sacred Treasures" where the Imperial Regalia is presented to CP Naruhito. Apparently there hasn't been women participants since the Meiji era established male only succession.

"Presentation of the Three Sacred Treasures" is the first ceremony for the new emperor. When Akihito succeeded on January 7, 1989, all the attendees were men - male royalty, Prime Minister, Minister of Cabinet, Chairperson of the House of Representatives, Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, etc. There were no women ministers at the time. There should be women cabinet members when CP Naruhito ascends in 2019.

However, the government wants to limit Imperial family attendance to male royalty just like in 1989. The presence of female royalty will lead to discussions of female-led Imperial branches and female emperors, topics the government is keen to avoid. It's one of the decisions for the organization headed by Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga to prepare for the various ceremonies. Some experts say women royalty should be allowed to attend.

Source: Asahi
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #442  
Old 12-29-2017, 06:40 PM
Princess Larisa's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: ., Croatia
Posts: 3,678
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisma View Post
However, the government wants to limit Imperial family attendance to male royalty just like in 1989.
Well, if they want to show and make obviously clear to everyone in Japan and around the world how few male members there actually are, this is a great idea. Basically there would be one royal guest there - Fumihito. (And Prince Hitachi – an 82-year-old man in a wheelchair.)
__________________

Reply With Quote
  #443  
Old 12-29-2017, 06:46 PM
Muhler's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 13,660
Indeed. It may lead to people to really start discussing the problem with the very few heirs.
Only male-attendance will IMO only emphasize how close the male-line is to going extinct.
Reply With Quote
  #444  
Old 12-29-2017, 07:03 PM
Princess Larisa's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: ., Croatia
Posts: 3,678
The Emperor’s birthday a few days ago also made me think about the visuals. This year there were 7 people on the balcony, in 4 years it’s quite possible there will only be 4 people – Naruhito, Masako, Fumihito and Kiko (Akihito and Michiko retired, Mako and Kako married, Aiko and Hisahito too young). I’m not Japanese, but if my royal family dwindled like that I’d be worried.
Reply With Quote
  #445  
Old 12-29-2017, 07:12 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
Might only be Naruhito and Masako on the birthday balcony until Aiko comes of age. The Hitachi couple do not appear on the balcony for Akihito's birthday so I don't see the Akishino couple on the balcony for Naruhito's birthday, unless the custom changes.
Reply With Quote
  #446  
Old 12-29-2017, 07:24 PM
Princess Larisa's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: ., Croatia
Posts: 3,678
Quote:
Originally Posted by Prisma View Post
Might only be Naruhito and Masako on the birthday balcony until Aiko comes of age. The Hitachi couple do not appear on the balcony for Akihito's birthday so I don't see the Akishino couple on the balcony for Naruhito's birthday, unless the custom changes.
But I understood that Fumihito will become Crown Prince after abdication. Would the CP not be there? Or is the birthday balcony exclusively for the emperor’s descendants?
Reply With Quote
  #447  
Old 12-29-2017, 08:02 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
I don't know if the birthday balcony is exclusive to the emperor's direct family. Judging from Akihito's birthday, it appears so. The Hitachi couple and other Imperial members attend the diplomatic receptions and lunch banquet, not balcony.

Not sure what the birthday balcony was like during Emperor Showa's time. Perhaps Naruhito will include his brother's family.
Reply With Quote
  #448  
Old 12-29-2017, 09:31 PM
O-H Anglophile's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 3,638
Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Larisa View Post
But I understood that Fumihito will become Crown Prince after abdication. Would the CP not be there?
That was my understanding as well--the emperor and his heir.
Reply With Quote
  #449  
Old 12-29-2017, 09:36 PM
O-H Anglophile's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Midwest, United States
Posts: 3,638
Quote:
Originally Posted by Princess Larisa View Post
Well, if they want to show and make obviously clear to everyone in Japan and around the world how few male members there actually are, this is a great idea. Basically there would be one royal guest there - Fumihito. (And Prince Hitachi – an 82-year-old man in a wheelchair.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhler View Post
Indeed. It may lead to people to really start discussing the problem with the very few heirs.
Only male-attendance will IMO only emphasize how close the male-line is to going extinct.
This would be an excellent visual illustration of the result of the male only rule. Some are burying their heads in the sand.
Reply With Quote
  #450  
Old 12-31-2017, 01:25 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
Enthronement ceremony for new emperor mulled for Oct. 2019 - The Mainichi
Quote:
The government is mulling scheduling the enthronement ceremony for the next emperor for October 2019, [...]

Following the enthronement ceremony, a ritual called the Daijosai (Grand Thanksgiving), which a new emperor performs just once, will be held either on Nov. 14 or 23.

[...]

Under the Tokyokurei decree issued during the Meiji era, the enthronement ceremony and the Daijosai were supposed to be conducted in succession during the fall-winter period. Since the reign of Emperor Yoshihito, posthumously known as Emperor Taisho, both ceremonies have been conducted in November.

However, when Emperor Akihito's enthronement ceremony and Daijosai were held in November 1990, "the new Emperor and (government) employees were heavily burdened as the two ceremonies came close to each other," a government source told the Mainichi Shimbun. Accordingly, the government is considering moving up the enthronement ceremony to sometime in October. The beginning of November is also a busy period, with the Order of Cultural Merit conferment ceremony (Nov. 3) and other events.

The Daijosai is normally held on the second or third day of the rabbit in November on the Japanese zodiac calendar. Emperor Akihito commenced the Daijosai on the evening of Nov. 22, 1990, the day of the rabbit. In 2019, the second and third day of the rabbit in November fall on Nov. 14 and 26, respectively.

Since the annual Niinamesai ceremony is scheduled for Nov. 23, 2019, the Daijosai is being considered for Nov. 14, or to coincide with the Niinamesai.

[...]
Reply With Quote
  #451  
Old 01-02-2018, 02:34 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
Panel tasked with 2019 Imperial succession preparations set to meet Jan. 9 | The Japan Times
Quote:
[...]

The committee, headed by Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga, will meet next Tuesday to talk about how related rituals should be organized. It will decide the schedules for a range of events, including the enthronement ceremony, officials said.

The government will also set up a succession-implementation committee comprising officials from all government ministries and agencies in the summer at the earliest.

[...]

On May 1, the Kenji to Shokei no Gi ceremony will be held in which the new Emperor will inherit the Imperial regalia and the state and privy seals.

On the same day, the Emperor’s first audience ceremony, the Sokui go Choken no Gi, will take place. In it, he will meet with the heads of the three branches of the government.

[...]

Members of the committee will also include Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Kazuhiro Sugita, the grand steward of the Imperial Household Agency and the vice minister of the Cabinet Office. The panel will meet about once every month.

[...]

The committee will also consider whether to designate the day of Crown Prince Naruhito’s succession to the throne as a holiday along with when to announce the new era name, which will replace the current Heisei Era upon his enthronement.

Emperor Akihito’s abdication ceremony will be held at the Imperial Palace. A proposal has been put forward to name the ceremony Taii no Gi.

[...]
Reply With Quote
  #452  
Old 01-04-2018, 08:34 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
Gov't may issue special coins to celebrate enthronement ceremony for new emperor - The Mainichi
Quote:
The government has entered discussions on whether to issue commemorative coins to celebrate the enthronement ceremony for Crown Prince Naruhito [...]

Moreover, the government is also considering issuing coins to commemorate the 30-year reign of Emperor Akihito in January 2019, as well as for his abdication in April that year. A more detailed schedule concerning the coins is set to be determined in due course, but it is thought that gold 10,000 yen coins and nickel brass 500 yen coins will be issued to commemorate Crown Prince Naruhito's enthronement ceremony.

When the enthronement ceremony for Emperor Akihito was held in November 1990, 2 million gold 100,000 yen coins and 30 million cupronickel 500 yen coins were released to mark the special occasion. The gold coins have an image of a Fenghuang mythological bird and auspicious clouds on the front, with the Chrysanthemum Throne and paulownia seal on the back, and have an arabesque design. The cupronickel coins have an image of a ceremonial carriage that is typically used in imperial parades.

However, nowadays, the values of commemorative coins are kept to 10,000 yen or less, taking into account incidents of counterfeiting of 100,000 yen coins issued in 1986 and 1987 to mark the 60-year reign of Emperor Hirohito. [...]

[...]
Reply With Quote
  #453  
Old 01-11-2018, 02:10 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
Gov't to compile basic plan for imperial succession by mid-March - The Mainichi
Quote:
The government said Tuesday it will compile by mid-March its basic plan on the staging of ceremonies related to Emperor Akihito's abdication on April 30, 2019, and accession to the throne the following day by Crown Prince Naruhito.

Chief Cabinet Secretary Yoshihide Suga, who heads a new group tasked with preparing the imperial succession ceremonies, told the first meeting of the entity Tuesday morning that the government will "do its best to smoothly hold" the rites. [...]

[...]

After the gathering of the panel, Suga said the committee is expected to meet once a month and will also study how to organize a ceremony to mark the 30th anniversary of the current emperor's [succession] on Jan. 7, 2019.

One of the main topics to be discussed by the body will be how to avoid a conflict with the Constitution in arranging the first abdication ceremony in modern Japan.

As Article 4 bans the emperor from having political power, government officials are concerned that if the emperor's reasons for abdicating are read out by an agent following old ceremonial tradition, this would imply that he is relinquishing the throne based on his own will, thus violating the supreme law.

One member of the committee said the basic idea and content of the 1990 accession ceremony should be followed as the event was conducted so as not to infringe on the Constitution, according to Suga.

The seven-member committee is comprised of governmental officials, including Deputy Chief Cabinet Secretary Kazuhiro Sugita and the Imperial Household Agency's Grand Steward Shinichiro Yamamoto. Suga said it plans to hear opinions of experts on imperial matters and history.

[...]
Reply With Quote
  #454  
Old 01-21-2018, 06:50 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
After abdication, Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko will not attend garden parties, state banquets, New Year's Lectures, New Year's Poetry Reading, or the Emperor's birthday greetings. IHA officials are reviewing activities to avoid the appearance of dual authority. Visits to exhibitions, concerts, and meetings outside state banquets/diplomatic ceremonies are considered private activities.

The retired couple are likely to attend New Year's general public greetings on January 2nd.

Source: Sankei
Reply With Quote
  #455  
Old 01-21-2018, 07:18 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: St Thomas, U.S. Minor Outlying Islands
Posts: 2,720


Bearing the discussions of last year in mind, I wonder if the government has guided his decision.
Reply With Quote
  #456  
Old 01-21-2018, 07:39 PM
Muhler's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 13,660
That's almost certain IMO.

Also because in the eyes of a number of conservatives the Emperor is letting the monarchy, the country and them - down by not staying on until he dies.
So this is both a strong signal that from the moment of abdication he is yesterday's man and also that he does not deserve to be in the spotlight again. - Never mind his service to his country for so many years.

Because it really wouldn't make much difference of an ex-emperor was present at royal events. Surely the Japanese can tell the difference.
But politicians, like everybody else, can be pretty petty-minded.
Reply With Quote
  #457  
Old 01-21-2018, 08:25 PM
Majesty
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Pittsburgh, United States
Posts: 6,262
Quote:
Originally Posted by Muhler View Post
That's almost certain IMO.

Also because in the eyes of a number of conservatives the Emperor is letting the monarchy, the country and them - down by not staying on until he dies.
So this is both a strong signal that from the moment of abdication he is yesterday's man and also that he does not deserve to be in the spotlight again. - Never mind his service to his country for so many years.

Because it really wouldn't make much difference of an ex-emperor was present at royal events. Surely the Japanese can tell the difference.
But politicians, like everybody else, can be pretty petty-minded.
If you think about it though, neither King Albert II nor King Juan Carlos have attended state banquets or national day celebrations since they abdicated. Princess Beatrix is the only former monarch who still attends state banquets or similar events upon abdication.

I suppose the point the IHA is making that there shouldn't be an appearance of double authority in the ceremonial representation of the State is a valid one. For example, it was rather embarassing IMHO when King Philippe, at the state banquet in the Netherlands, proposed a toast to the health of King Willem-Alexander and Princess Beatrix as if they were co-monarchs. I would actually call that a gaffe on King Philippe's part, but it could have been avoided if Princess Beatrix had not been in attendance.
Reply With Quote
  #458  
Old 01-22-2018, 01:16 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 13,660
Ex-kings Albert and Carlos were more or less abdicated while Emperor Akihito is actually doing a Beatrix. I.e. stepping down without a serious stain on his character or rule.

Under these circumstances I will consider it natural for ex-kings Carlos and Albert to keep a low profile and stay away from such events - at least initially.
While Beatrix, who on top of that has a tradition for abdications behind her as well as adopting a title as Princess, can attend such official events as a natural thing to do.
Reply With Quote
  #459  
Old 02-04-2018, 11:46 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Bay Area, United States
Posts: 4,843
No Emperor's birthday holiday in 2019 - News - NHK WORLD - English
Quote:
Japan will not have a holiday next year to mark the Emperor's birthday as Emperor Akihito is scheduled to abdicate on April 30th, 2019. The Emperor's birthday on December 23rd is currently a national holiday.

[...]

It will be the first time that Japan has a year without a holiday on the Emperor's birthday since 1948 when the holiday law came into force.

[...]
Reply With Quote
  #460  
Old 02-05-2018, 01:33 AM
Muhler's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Eastern Jutland, Denmark
Posts: 13,660
That's only to be expected IMO.
He'll be the ex-emperor, so that's fair enough.
__________________

Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko Picture Thread jun5 Emperor Emeritus Akihito and Empress Emerita Michiko 79 07-31-2019 07:04 PM
Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko's golden Jubilee Marquesa d Yolombó Emperor Emeritus Akihito and Empress Emerita Michiko 21 04-18-2009 03:47 PM
Emperor Akihito's and Empress Michiko's State Visit to the Baltics May 24-27, 2007 Mandy Emperor Emeritus Akihito and Empress Emerita Michiko 28 06-27-2007 12:55 AM
Emperor Akihito and Empress Michiko: Current Events Part 1: May 2003 - September 2006 Jacqueline Emperor Emeritus Akihito and Empress Emerita Michiko 214 09-27-2006 01:33 PM
Emperor Akihito And Empress Michiko jun5 Emperor Emeritus Akihito and Empress Emerita Michiko 46 01-12-2004 08:36 PM




Popular Tags
#royalrelatives #royalgenes anastasia 2020 armstrong-jones baptism biography british brownbitcoinqueen canada chittagong coronavirus countess of snowdon cover-up emperor fantasy movie gustaf vi adolf haakon vii heraldry hill history interesting introduction israel jack brooksbank jewelry jumma kent king salman list of rulers luxembourg mailing maxima monaco history nepal nepalese royal family nobel 2019 norwegian royal family popularity prince charles prince constantijn prince daniel princess catharina-amalia princess chulabhorn princess dita princess elizabeth pronunciation queen consort queen maud queen maxima royal balls royal court royal events royal family royal jewels royal spouse royalty royal wedding russian court dress saudi arabia spain startling new evidence stuart swedish queen swedish royal family taiwan thailand tracts united kingdom visit from sweden von hofmannsthal wedding gown


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:31 PM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2020
Jelsoft Enterprises
×