Queen Margrethe and Prince Henrik's State Visit to Greece: May 24-26, 2006 - Page 2

Lasse Pedersen · #21 03-10-2006, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlotte1

I think you'll find that Margrethe and Henrik visited Greece after their wedding in 1967 and have never been there since.(or were due to go and then cancelled, I'm relying on memory here!)

As far as I remember, the then newly weds cancelled and went to Turkey instead. I believe to have read so in "Margrethe".

/Lasse Pedersen

norwegianne · #22 03-10-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by UserDane

My pleasure Margrethe II - it's an interesting discussion :)
I'm still undecided as to QMII's true feelings toward the Greek goverment. She must naturally have an stance due to her family ties, but at the same time she has a role to fulfil as well as a representative of Denmark.
The only time I wondered whether she was 'demonstrating' something was when she held the celebrations of Anne Marie's and Constantine's silver wedding. It was a quite large affair, held at Kronborg Castle -which is normally not used for this sort of celebrations and which is definitely not updated to this. It was quite remarkable - definitely celebrations for a 'king and queen' :p

Actually I think it was Queen Ingrid who was hosting that party for Anne-Marie and Constantine - as sort of a kick-back to the government for when she hadn't been allowed to invite her youngest daughter to her oldest daughter's wedding.

crisiñaki · #23 03-10-2006, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Margrethe II

I know...don't you just love it!!!

I bet HM would have been quite the intimidating presence..God love Sofia, heaven's knows I do!

"MII"

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall in that gala

Saragli · #24 03-10-2006, 04:11 PM

The Queen and Greece have not been on freindly terms for a while and that suprised me. There was that fuss made when she wanted to attend the olympics but that was resolved and now she is making a State Visit. Hopefully they are letting bygones be bygones. This was one of the few times when Margareth showed her real power and presence.

crisiñaki · #25 03-10-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Princejohnny25

The Queen and Greece have not been on freindly terms for a while and that suprised me. There was that fuss made when she wanted to attend the olympics but that was resolved and now she is making a State Visit. Hopefully they are letting bygones be bygones. This was one of the few times when Margareth showed her real power and presence.

Well what happened with Sofia and Margrethe is called the power of the women scorned when their families are messed with, I just shake just to think of either one as an enemy

Margrethe II · #26 03-10-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlotte1

Anne-Marie and Constantine received special permission to go to Greece for a few hours for the funeral of Queen Frederika in 1981. For many years they were banned from entering Greece. Then they had the dispute with the Greek government over their former properties.

This I already know :)

I can't help but feel that you thought I was having a dig at you...I wasn't!

"MII"

UserDane · #27 03-10-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by norwegianne

Actually I think it was Queen Ingrid who was hosting that party for Anne-Marie and Constantine - as sort of a kick-back to the government for when she hadn't been allowed to invite her youngest daughter to her oldest daughter's wedding.

It may have been Ingrid who worked behind the scenes; I just seem to remember the talk about QMII giving this grand party for her little sister. QMII being the regent, I assumed that she was officially hosting it. But the celebrations may very well have been planned by both queens.

Charlotte1 · #28 03-10-2006, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Margrethe II

This I already know :)

I can't help but feel that you thought I was having a dig at you...I wasn't!

"MII"

I didn't think you were having a dig at me. I remembered more information on why Margrethe wouldn't visit Greece and so I posted it. She never made a secret of her disproval of the way the Greek government in the past had treated her sister and brother-in-law and her reluctance to visit Greece in any capacity until the situation had been resolved. Which it has now.

( Not a specifice reply to MII, just general stuff)

It wouldn't matter is the Danneborg is plastered with photos of AM and Constantine as the relations of the former Greek royals and the Republic of Greece has become quite cordial. At the time of the Athens Olympics the President of the Greek Republic invited Constantine and his family to a private visit to the Presidential Palace ( which had been their former home).

But going back to that visit to Spain by the former Greek President, Queen Sofia not only wore a grand tiara but she also made a point of wearing a Greek Order ( a royalist one) Normally she would have worn a Spanish one, and I don't think she's wore a Greek order since. She made her point at the meeting!

Margrethe II · #29 03-10-2006, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlotte1

I didn't think you were having a dig at me. I remembered more information on why Margrethe wouldn't visit Greece and so I posted it. She never made a secret of her disproval of the way the Greek government in the past had treated her sister and brother-in-law and her reluctance to visit Greece in any capacity until the situation had been resolved. Which it has now.

( Not a specifice reply to MII, just general stuff)

No, I dont mean your first post of discussion but your second...still, thank you for clarifying.

"MII"

fraxales · #30 03-23-2006, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Charlotte1

But going back to that visit to Spain by the former Greek President, Queen Sofia not only wore a grand tiara but she also made a point of wearing a Greek Order ( a royalist one) Normally she would have worn a Spanish one, and I don't think she's wore a Greek order since.

I'm sorry I'm late with this discussion and hope you don't mind my putting in my two cents' worth.

On the topic above, normally the Queen would NOT wear a Spanish order but that which has been conferred on her/her husband by her guest, and vice versa (being the protocol at any state dinner anywhere). I would be very amazed if she also chose an out-of-date order as it is not a personal occasion but a state one, and that could lead to major repercussions, diplomatically.

As for Queen Margrethe, she may well have personal feelings on Greece but I don't think she would put that above her nation's interests. What we also have to bear in mind is that the Greeks had sentiments, too. Coupled with the fact that they had been through some very unsettled times (puttint it mildly), surely it was more prudent to let the embers die down completely before putting the Queen at risk from possible protestors, or risking her presence igniting some "passions".

And as for her preferring her sons to marry foreigners, I think it's just the way things will eventually go in any country. It gives the princes (or princesses, for that matter) a chance for someone to get to know the "real them" - back in their country, it's every girl's dream and that would cloud their judgement. Mary had no idea who it was that bought her that drink in the "Slip-in" bar, so she got to know Frederick, not the crown Prince.

Hope I'm not too boring...

Lasse Pedersen · #31 03-23-2006, 04:34 AM

According to Billed-Bladet's website, HM Queen Margrethe II and HRH Henrik, Prince Consort of Denmark will travel to Greece on the royal yacht 'Dannebrog', just as they did when they went to the Olympic Games of 2004 in Athens.

Source: http://www.billedbladet.dk/default.a...ails&Item=3888

/Lasse Pedersen

Toledo · #32 03-26-2006, 10:51 AM

thanks for the Danish to English translations you and the other Danish forum members have been posting for us, Lasse. It's a great help. :)

Lasse Pedersen · #33 03-26-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Toledo

thanks for the Danish to English translations you and the other Danish forum members have been posting for us, Lasse. It's a great help. :)

You are most welcome, I am glad to help!

Opal · #34 04-03-2006, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lasse Pedersen

According to Billed-Bladet's website, HM Queen Margrethe II and HRH Henrik, Prince Consort of Denmark will travel to Greece on the royal yacht 'Dannebrog', just as they did when they went to the Olympic Games of 2004 in Athens.

Source: http://www.billedbladet.dk/default.a...ails&Item=3888

/Lasse Pedersen

Really...travelling by boat? I wonder why. This seems like a very round-about way of getting to a destination. Wouldn't it be much easier to just fly? Is it maybe so they have a convenient place to sleep and don't have to be a burden to their hosts(?) Does she use her yacht a lot to travel to official functions?
BTW, have they ever shown pics of the interior of the yacht?

grevinnan · #35 04-03-2006, 07:25 PM

Why would they not use the yacht if they have one? Travel is not only a matter of speed.

H.M. Margrethe · #36 04-04-2006, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by rchat

Really...travelling by boat? I wonder why. This seems like a very round-about way of getting to a destination. Wouldn't it be much easier to just fly? Is it maybe so they have a convenient place to sleep and don't have to be a burden to their hosts(?) Does she use her yacht a lot to travel to official functions?
BTW, have they ever shown pics of the interior of the yacht?

One of the reasons for the royal family of Denmark are useing the "Dannebro" is that they really like to sail.
Alot of us her in Denmark likes to sail because ther is water around our country...Since the beginning of the world the Danes have used the water to alot of diffrent things (fishing and washing ther clothes and of course sailing to other contryies and occupy them :( )

Sophus · #37 04-04-2006, 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by H.M. Margrethe

Since the beginning of the world the Danes have used the water to alot of diffrent things (fishing and washing ther clothes and of course sailing to other contryies and occupy them :( )

That's right! he he...

Kelly · #38 04-04-2006, 02:59 PM

Besides I think it is a great opportunity to catch and snap some pictures for those that live close enough to see their arrival!

Opal · #39 04-05-2006, 05:52 PM

Yes, I forgot about the Brittania... ashame they decommissioned it. I didn't realize the Danish RF love the water so much. Then I can understand. It's probably a more comfortable way to travel - sort of "home away from home". :)
Thanks for providing the pics Margrethe II! It looks very beautiful... and cozy at the same time. Feel free to post any more pics you have.

Lasse Pedersen · #40 04-06-2006, 09:00 AM

Yes, the "Dannebrog" seems very hyggelig!
Though more related to the ship than to the state visit, I remember a documentary in which Her Majesty gave a tour of the yacht. She was talking about the room as she suddenly looked out the window and saw a battle ship of the Danish Royal Navy. Her Majesty, clapping her hands together, cried out: "LOOK! Come look", and she ran out her study and on to the deck. When on the deck, she waved 'her boys' in the navy who had lined up on deck, saluting Her Majesty, and then Her Majesty proudly said: "That is damned fine!". It was fun to see the Queen so proud and almost childishly ecstatic.

/Lasse Pedersen