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Old 08-04-2017, 02:41 AM
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Thank you, Muhler, for your coverage and analysis of this odd development in the affairs of the DRF. All I can say is that I hope PH reads all the media coverage and understands that he has made a serious strategic mistake. Relations with the Court must be at an all-time low for this news to have been released in this way.
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Royal commentator and Editor-in-Chief of Royal Central Charlie Proctor's take on it:
Prince Henrik of Denmark – an embarrassment to constitutional monarchy – Royal Central
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Old 08-04-2017, 02:55 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the wishes of Prince Henrik.

There have been other royals in Europe opposing the idea to be interred in a crypt (preferring to be buried in the earth), opposing the idea to be embalmed (preferring to leave it to nature), opposing the idea to te "purified" in a chamber (preferring to follow normal decomposition), opposing the idea to be parted (the heart in place A and the body in place B) but preferring to keep the body intact, opposing the idea to laid at rest in a country (preferring to be buried in another country) etc. etc. etc.

As funerary arrangements are a person's very last wish, there is no need to mock the Prince for it.

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Thank you, Muhler, for your coverage and analysis of this odd development in the affairs of the DRF. All I can say is that I hope PH reads all the media coverage and understands that he has made a serious strategic mistake. Relations with the Court must be at an all-time low for this news to have been released in this way.
Strategic mistake? We are talking about a person's last wish what should happen to his remains. We are not talking about an advertorial campaign to launch a new flavour to the Coca-Cola range...

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Now I have had some time to think a lot, this might be an explanation. Maybe he just doesnt want to be put in a crypt to be embalmed.
Maybe he wants to be buried at the outside graveyard in Roskilde, where the Queens parents are laid to rest.
If that is the issue, I actually do understand, but then the Royal House should have communicated that out.
Ha, thank you for your refreshing and sound opinion! Amen to that.
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:05 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the wishes of Prince Henrik.

There have been other royals in Europe opposing the idea to be interred in a crypt (preferring to be buried in the earth), opposing the idea to be embalmed (preferring to leave it to nature), opposing the idea to te "purified" in a chamber (preferring to follow normal decomposition), opposing the idea to be parted (the heart in place A and the body in place B) but preferring to keep the body intact, opposing the idea to laid at rest in a country (preferring to be buried in another country) etc. etc. etc.

As funerary arrangements are a person's very last wish, there is no need to mock the Prince for it.
His reasons have nothing to do with not wanting to be buried in a crypt or preferring to be buried in the earth. His reasons were made quite clear by Lene Balleby/the court. If he was given the title "King Consort" (or whatever he wants) today, he would be perfectly happy to lie in the already ready made crypt. The crypt he has been involved in planning, death mask and all.
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:25 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the wishes of Prince Henrik.

There have been other royals in Europe opposing the idea to be interred in a crypt (preferring to be buried in the earth), opposing the idea to be embalmed (preferring to leave it to nature), opposing the idea to te "purified" in a chamber (preferring to follow normal decomposition), opposing the idea to be parted (the heart in place A and the body in place B) but preferring to keep the body intact, opposing the idea to laid at rest in a country (preferring to be buried in another country) etc. etc. etc.

As funerary arrangements are a person's very last wish, there is no need to mock the Prince for it.
You are correct Duc_et_Pair, there is nothing wrong with his wishes. But it is VERY clear why he is doing it:

"It is no secret that the Prince for many years has been unhappy with his role and the title has been given in the Danish monarchy.
That dissatisfaction has in later years taken up more and more room. For the Prince the decision not to be interred next to the Queen is a natural consequence of him not being treated as an equal in relation to his spouse - by not getting the title and functions, which he has wished for."

His reasoning has nothing to do with the laws of nature. It is based on his pure childish and narcissistic beliefs.
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:31 AM
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For whatever reasons he has done this I find it really sad for his wife. Take away all the royal parts of their lives and you have a married couple who will be buried apart. After all those years really sad
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:47 AM
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Strategic mistake? We are talking about a person's last wish what should happen to his remains. We are not talking about an advertorial campaign to launch a new flavour to the Coca-Cola range...


There are nuances in this decision by PH which are very obvious to many on this forum. It is not a straight-forward personal preference, as many others have observed here. It does seem to have an element of spite, and that is having repercussions in how PH is regarded. That's something I cannot help but feel sad about. He must have been aware of the ramifications, that's why I think that he made a strategic mistake. It will now take something extraordinary to turn public opinion in Denmark back in his favour.

But in the end, it's not down to how you or I see it, but the people of Denmark. I wish them the best in managing this situation.
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Old 08-04-2017, 03:49 AM
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There is nothing wrong with the wishes of Prince Henrik.

There have been other royals in Europe opposing the idea to be interred in a crypt (preferring to be buried in the earth), opposing the idea to be embalmed (preferring to leave it to nature), opposing the idea to te "purified" in a chamber (preferring to follow normal decomposition), opposing the idea to be parted (the heart in place A and the body in place B) but preferring to keep the body intact, opposing the idea to laid at rest in a country (preferring to be buried in another country) etc. etc. etc.

As funerary arrangements are a person's very last wish, there is no need to mock the Prince for it.
Except that's NOT why he made this choice?

The press release and the interview with the Press Officer made it VERY CLEAR that Henrik refused to be buried together with Margrethe because of his long-time dissatisfaction with his title and position.

They didn't even try to hide it by citing some sentimental or cultural reason. It's purely out of spite and that's why it's appalling and disrespectful to his wife of 50 YEARS.

If he had any problems with the burial traditions, he could have said it a long time ago, a decade or two, before the court has LONG begun planning for their eventual deaths. Not when the sarcophagus is complete and the cathedral site renovated.
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:26 AM
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Well, the editorials this morning are very harsh! Even the first political comment is very hard.

Eksperter: Prins Henrik straffer Dronningen og tager den ultimative hævn - TV 2

The serious royal reporter from the conservative newspaper Berlingske, Thomas Larsen, says under the headline: Prince Henrik's fatal letdown of the Queen:
"With his demonstrative and selfish decision about not wanting to be buried next to his wife (formal), Queen Margrethe, Prince Henrik is creating an unworthy end to his marriage and work for the DRF".

The serious and mainly republican newspaper Politiken believe PH is punishing QMII for not becoming king in Denmark. "That's why his annoyance reach into death, and he plays the trumph and in that punish and discredit both the Queen and the royal family".

Royal corespondent from DR1, Anette Kokholm, says: "I think people must understand it like that the dissatisfaction which Prince Henrik has expressed for a lot of years has not gone away and that it is so overwhelming that he presents the ultimate revenge".

The businessman, Asger Aamund, who is often heard in any debate, says: "It's not a good idea he has had. He has known all along what he went into.
So you can't come in in the middle of the whole thing and want to be king. It's sad for the Queen that he out with this primitive rebellion. She didn't deserve that".

The self-declared ultra royalist, Jim Lyngvild, who is also not afraid of speaking his mind when a member of the DRF goofs, says: "It might be that the man is suffering from mild dementia or going nuts. But I will not stand for this. That you first say: that I will not celebrate my golden anniversary with the women who has been by my side for a whole life, and that you will not be buried with her. Then get a divorce. Leave her. Renounce your apanage, you old a**hole".

The long-time royal reporter, Lally Hoffmann, believe it's nonsense that PH is not acknowledged within the DRF: "The Queen has carried him forward and done everything in order for him to be treated as her equal. That he isn't equal is only in his own head".

A leading spokesman for the Conservative party, Naser Khader, says: "It's silly and childish. He's unfair in the way he is treating the Queen. (Actually the expression is even more rebuking towards PH, but this is the best translation I can come up with). It might be that there is a discrimination in him not being made king, but that is an unreasonable reasoning for not wanting to be buried with her".

Det skriver aviserne om prins Henriks beslutning: Han sætter sig selv over pligten - TV 2

Berlingske's editorial (by Thomas Larsen) says: "With his wish about not being buried next to Queen Margrethe, Prince Henrik has both formally as well as privately damaged the DRF as well as his own reputation.
It's an unecessary and way too demonstrative decision Prince Henrik has made. It must fill every supporter of the Danish monarchy with tristesse (sadness).
The decision is not only a personal low, the 83 year old Henrik also risk losing all the sympathy and respect he has build up over his many years in Denmark.
His decision is also a totally unreasonable treatment of the Queen. It puts the Monarch of the realm in a pretty impossible situation. She doesn't deserve that".
On top of that it can damage the reputation of the monarchy. The high approval of the monarchy among people is very much due to the members of the DRF are aware that with the privileges follow duty.
"With his inconsiderate/ill-considered decision Prince Henrik, in the eyes of many Danes, no doubt puts his own person above duty. That's not good".

Ekstra Bladet (trashy tabloid, but read by many) believe "Prince Henrik makes the DRF a laughing stock abroad where no one has an understanding for his impossible expectation for a king-title".

BT, another tabloid, label PH's decision as "spoiled and wrong" - "Spoiled, because Prince Henrik has always known what the job as Prince in Denmark entailed - to follow his Queen for better or worse.
And wrong, because he in this way puts his own person above the position as Prince of Denmark and disregard the historical tradition he has signed up to".

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Especially Thomas Larsen from Berlingske is harsh! I cannot recall him ever being this hard before!

Okay, let's put this into perspective: While this will be immensely damaging to PH, probably fatally damaging, it will not harm the monarchy as a whole.
It's after all not a case of PH being caught pants down committing adultery, being involved in corruption or having killed someone by running them over by a car.
PH will have his place in history! Not as a man who remained faithful to his wife. Not as a man, who despite considerable problems, did his duty and eventually endeared himself to the Danes. Not as a devoted grandfather. Not as a fun-loving, funny and eccentric dresser with a great sense of humor. - No, he will be remembered as a petty man who snubbed his wife of 50 years, who in a fit of pique, snubbed the monarchy. That's what is going to be remembered when people stand at the tomb in Roskilde Cathedral in a couple of generations from now.
It will also cast a shadow over QMII's reign, because historians and royalists are going to focus quite a lot on this, rather than what she accomplished; raising the Danish monarchy from a not that popular and deeply conservative and old-fashioned institution, to being immensely respected and having a very high approval rating indeed.

This is also hurtful for the other members of the DRF. They are going to see an entire country basically turning its back on a beloved father, and by all accounts a loving father-in-law as well. And they can't do anything about it. If they go out and support PH, it will be seen as them going against QMII, their mother, against tradition.

Apart from angering the Danes by his behavior, he is hurting his own family. He is in particular hurting his wife, that I think is the worst part in the eyes of the public.
He has known from day one, that he was destined to be interred at Roskilde and quite a lot on money has been put into the preparations. If he had other wishes, he had ample opportunity to say so. And people might understand, if he wished to be buried in France with his family. A break with tradition perhaps, but nothing worse than that. But this? Now?

We have discussed PH's psychology at length in the retirement thread, and I won't pretend that I know how he thinks, (because I don't!) I can only offer my theory. And that is that PH is indeed very spoiled, and very egocentric with a very megalomaniac streak.
He sees himself as the patriarch of the DRF and he simply cannot understand why everybody else don't see him that way. He cannot understand why he, the patriarch of the DRF, is not as a matter of course, involved in the constitutional matters of the head of state. I think he sees himself as a kind of Prince Albert, who in many ways ruled on behalf of Queen Victoria - and that's how it should be.
If he married a president of a republic, he would insist on not only being involved in the political affairs, but also be publicly acknowledged as being equal to the president.
That in my opinion is megalomania, which since he is obviously brooding more and more over that, takes up ever increasing proportions in his mind and world-view. Now to the extent that he is going completely irrational. Also to the point that he completely disregards the feelings of those nearest and dearest to him. - And he cannot see it.
Without suffering from dementia or insanity he is going juvenile. He acts like the spoiled child, without considering the longterm consequences.
With a child you can at least grab hold of them and rein them in. But an irrational adult? What are they going to do? Put him under palace-arrest? Exile him?
Now, each time he doesn't get his way, and at the end he will really only settle for being the monarch, he will find a way to retaliate. Even to the point where it's completely irrational!

We are witnessing a meltdown!

And unless PH is eventually declared of being not of sound mind (and that's very difficult!) he may come up with more crazy stuff.
And that's why I believe there is a genuine possibility that QMII may decide to abdicate. Because then it's no longer the Monarch's husband who is going nuts.
There may come a point where PH's behavior detracts so much from QMII, that it dominates the agenda. Because it will not end here.
Once PH finds out that this act did not help. That people still refuse to grant him his rightful title as king and refuse to acknowledge what a great man he is, he will come up with something else. If for no other reason than to take a childish revenge on those who have slighted him: QMI, the court, Denmark and the Danes. Then it may be better for her to bow out, rather than have this be what people will remember her for. That's the highest sacrifice on the alter of duty, she can possibly do and QMII has a very high sense of duty. She will not remain sitting on the throne if she feels it is better if she didn't.
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:27 AM
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Except that's NOT why he made this choice?

The press release and the interview with the Press Officer made it VERY CLEAR that Henrik refused to be buried together with Margrethe because of his long-time dissatisfaction with his title and position.

They didn't even try to hide it by citing some sentimental or cultural reason. It's purely out of spite and that's why it's appalling and disrespectful to his wife of 50 YEARS.

If he had any problems with the burial traditions, he could have said it a long time ago, a decade or two, before the court has LONG begun planning for their eventual deaths. Not when the sarcophagus is complete and the cathedral site renovated.
Congratulations on your first post.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:45 AM
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Congratulations on your first post.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
LOL Thank you! I usually just browse around the forums but this man-child made me angry enough to actually sign up and write something

I can't see how he was a diplomat working in foreign countries before marry into the royal family. Maybe his diplomatic skills disappeared with age? And to think most royals are good at putting up a front for the cameras...
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Old 08-04-2017, 04:58 AM
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I hope you will continue posting and become an active member here at TRF.

PH's decision has indeed hit the international news. (I doubt it's headline news though, but still noticed here in the local duck-pond).

I haven't got time to go into details but have a look for yourselves: Prins Henrik trækker overskrifter i udlandet: Han har været gift i 50 år - og har båret nag lige siden - TV 2

Chokerende nyhed om prins Henrik går verden rundt: 'Det er pinligt' | BT Royale - www.bt.dk
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Old 08-04-2017, 05:53 AM
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1. I've been following norgesvennen QMII (the Norway friend, as the norwegian media calls her) for a long time.

2. She often gives interviews to Norwegian magazines when she is in Norway.

3. She has always said (as late as this year) that she is going to sit on the throne till she dies.

4. That's why I have repeatedly said that this is what she's going to do.

5. But now I start to agree with Muhler, and I actually think an abdication may be a possibility.
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It would be a VERY sad end to her reign if it is forced upon her by her petulant FOOL of a Husband, and I cannot see her retirement would be especially happy - giving up a life's work to keep company with a crotchety old misery guts ?
Far better [for her] to keep on doing what she does best,representing the nation and people she loves and serves.
Best for her, but perhaps not for the Crown Prince and Crown Princess ?
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Old 08-04-2017, 06:11 AM
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Whatever the considerations were, a choice is always personal.

When the Prince feels that he does not deserve an equal treatment to his spouse after death, because he did not receive equal treatment during life, then that is a pretty consequent way of handling. No hypocrisy here: his stance during lifetime is his stance after lifetime. This consequent way of acting is actually refreshing.
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Old 08-04-2017, 06:50 AM
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I only see bitterness in this decision.

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PH has recently been hospitalized and has undergone surgery. Perhaps he is more ill than we know. Even an 83-year-old Prince may fear death, and like the moving Dylan Thomas poem, he is raging 'against the dying of the light.'

Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.

Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be gay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my father, there on that sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.


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I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt at this point. People facing death are not always stiff-lipped and noble.
There are a lot of emotions that come with brushes with the end of life - whilst I don't agree with the wording and the way it has been released, PH was previously Catholic (I am Protestant myself btw) and maybe as he approaches his winter days is feeling more the loss of his 'birth' denomination and country, and QMII aware of what he gave up is giving back? whilst history has been of a tradition for 'years' there is no reason that QMII and PH must be buried as per before - look at the changes when William the Conqueror arrived in England, and the 'traditions' that were lost then, and the many that have been either turned over or put aside. I think today we feel the loss of traditional structures in so many ways that we cling to what went before as the strength of who and what we and our various Royal families are. It was only a generation or two before that the younger offspring of a Monarch were 'kept' and lived a life of indulgence. Now we have people making comment when the heir to the heir (and his wife) W &K) don't happen to perform a public duty in a period of time, despite the fact that they are not on the Civic list .... yet. I do not have issue with the feelings of the Danish People as they support their Queen, but QMII and PH have always seemed to love each other, even through opposing views.
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Old 08-04-2017, 07:33 AM
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It would be a VERY sad end to her reign if it is forced upon her by her petulant FOOL of a Husband, and I cannot see her retirement would be especially happy - giving up a life's work to keep company with a crotchety old misery guts ?
Far better [for her] to keep on doing what she does best,representing the nation and people she loves and serves.
Best for her, but perhaps not for the Crown Prince and Crown Princess ?
It's taken me a while to post anything on this thread because I'm so so sad and upset for the Queen and really didn't know what to say. Other people were expressing things so much better than me (and thank you Muhler, as ever, for keeping us up to date with the news in Denmark). Thank you Whevale as I think you've summed up how I feel - I think it would be a tragedy for Queen Margrethe if she felt compelled to abdicate because of this. I always try to think the best of people but I just can't at the moment think of Prince Henrik as anything other than an 'old misery guts'

As far as I can work out I think she is still at Graasten with Princess Benedicte as she still has some engagements to carry out before she goes to France on Tuesday when the Crown Prince becomes Regent. I'm sure she is getting a lot of support from her sister. One of the many things I have admired about QMII is that she is such a devout Christian (I'm a lay preacher in the Church of England) and have always been impressed when she has talked about her faith. I pray that that is helping her at this time.
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I know that I have not been here for a very long time... I am sorry for that. I have decided to come back to take part in the discussions again.
I have to say that I am deeply shocked by the news about Prince Henrik. I cannot believe it! He did wrong as a Husband. I suppose he is more focused on his title than everything else! :(
Oh, I cannot imagine how Her Majesty feels... so many years of marriage and suddenly something like that. Certainly, it is difficult not only for her, but the whole family.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:06 AM
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H.K.H. Prins Henrik begraves ikke i Roskilde Domkirke | Kongehuset

This is official from the court. PH does not wish to be buried next to his wife at Roskilde Cathedral.
He will however be buried elsewhere in Denmark, the location is yet to be disclosed.

There have been rumors for the past few days that PH wished to be buried in France, but so far I've opted not to mention it, as it would be speculation.

QMII has known about PH's decision for some time and is accepting the decision.

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This is interesting!

There have been speculations for a while that the Regent Couple have de facto separated. This will add credence to that notion.
Unless there is a very good reason as to why, why will he not be buried next to his wife?
Especially since a pretty expensive and elaborate sarcophagus is being made for them, so that they can be interred together inside Roskilde Cathedral.

At present I can only conclude that there is now a complete break-up between PH and QMII.
I cannot help speculating that this is a kind of pay-back if you will from PH aimed at QMII.
This is going to hit the news big time here in DK!

The sympathy PH got from the public, be that fairly silent, from his recent surgery, will be gone by the end of this day.
It will be seen as PH once again letting down his wife, and the Monarch.
It is very likely also to be seen as another, shall we say, fit by PH.
Whatever, unless there are very good reasons for this decision, PH's popularity is going to drop like a rock!

It will also rekindle ongoing speculations about QMII abdicating, now going from "she has deserved it" to "perhaps it's better if M&F take over".

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Poor Margrethe II her husband comes off as a self absorbed toad. I watched Prince Philip retire with dignity yesterday. From rumors and reports he bristled at his secondary role early in QE2's reign but he would never ever publicly (repeatedly) shame Her Majesty or the royal family in this way.
Initially Prince Philip was treated quite shamefully by courtiers and certain ministers of the government. They sought to marginalise him in any way they could. It is known that he believed that he had as many rights as an amoeba, but he manned up, gritted his teeth and prevailed as a loving if somewhat irascible, husband, father and Prince Consort. 95 years old and a man among men. That Prince Henrik timed this to "Announcement" to the last day of Prince Philip's "working life" or the first of his "Retirement", I am in no doubt.

However, it is only by extreme arrogance that he could compare himself to Philip. Henrik's behaviour has become more and more insulting, humiliating and in this final announcement, nothing less than malicious. For a man who has claimed to love his wife he has treated her abominably with his petty insults, causing her public humiliation and for a woman of her strength and love for her husband, the pity of her people must have been a bitter pill to swallow over the years.

But this, to be publicly seen to be rejected, even after death, must have caused her anguish and pain to such a degree that I do not see how their marriage can survive. The atmosphere must be toxic because if he blames her for not being King Consort, his anger and jealousy toward his son Frederik for holding that power in his mother's absence must be almost overwhelming.

I know of no solution. I doubt that HM will divorce him, being a woman of faith and love for a most undeserving husband. But this time he has gone too far and Denmark itself may have the last word.
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