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Old 02-09-2018, 07:15 PM
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I agree with you Al_bina and I sincerely hope the media respects the family's privacy at this time. I'm sure there will be a palace spokesperson that will relay information should it be deemed appropriate to do so.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:21 PM
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I am deeply saddened to hear that His Royal Highness Prince Henrik of Denmark's health has taken a turn for the worst.

May God Bless him, the royal family, the princes's family in France and friends.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:34 PM
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The latest is that there are speculations as to where Frederik is.
No one seems to know whether he has landed or not and the court won't say anything.
- My guess is that Frederik has returned to DK but that he will visit his father first thing tomorrow. I imagine they have given PH something to hopefully let him sleep through the night.
I also imagine Frederik and the rest of the DRF would like to talk among themselves if this really is very close to the end for PH.
Perhaps they will all, or as many as practically possible considering the circumstances, visit PH tomorrow. A communal goodbye so to speak. As I mentioned in a previous post, PH is a family man, I imagine he would like to have his family around one last time, if he himself feel he is going.

Interestingly PH has been visited by the Chief of Court, Michael Ehrenreich.
That seems to be unusual.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:46 PM
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Interestingly PH has been visited by the Chief of Court, Michael Ehrenreich. That seems to be unusual.
I actually went and looked up what Mr. Ehrenreich's role is and from what I found out, the Chief of Court advises and assists in all functions pertaining to private matters. My guess is that he visited with the prince and HM in order to know first hand what the family's wishes are at this time. We'll never know but it seems logical to me.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:49 PM
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I actually went and looked up what Mr. Ehrenreich's role is and from what I found out, the Chief of Court advises and assists in all functions pertaining to private matters. My guess is that he visited with the prince and HM in order to know first hand what the family's wishes are at this time. We'll never know but it seems logical to me.

Sounds very plausible.
Also perhaps in regards to his funeral. Especially if there is nothing in writing. - Considering PH's strong views on the matter, which may very well have been reinforced even more by now by his dementia, QMII might not be the right person to ask PH exactly where he wish to be buried and how.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:50 PM
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There seems to be a disbalance in the remark by Etienne de Laborde de Monpezat speaking about weeks and the posts here as if the situation is acute. I would also counter that Alzheimer's is always a suffering. It really depends from person to person. Queen Juliana had no sense anymore who she was but she was given the best care possible, with private nurses, the clock round. The same counts for Princess Lilian. Also Prince Henrik actually made a good and happy impression. I remember the Queen and the Prince in great spirits at a ball, in December, dressed as harlequins. I thought the Prince looked happy.
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Old 02-09-2018, 07:57 PM
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There seems to be a disbalance in the remark by Etienne de Laborde de Monpezat speaking about weeks and the posts here as if the situation is acute. I would also counter that Alzheimer's is always a suffering. It really depends from person to person. Queen Juliana had no sense anymore who she was but she was given the best care possible, with private nurses, the clock round. The same counts for Princess Lilian. Also Prince Henrik actually made a good and happy impression. I remember the Queen and the Prince in great spirits at a ball, in December, dressed as harlequins. I thought the Prince looked happy.
I'd say the disbalance is mainly between Etienne speaking about weeks and crown prince Frederik hurrying home from the Olympic Games (THE accumulation of years of IOC work; his most important 'job' outside of Denmark) resulting in most people assuming the worst.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:00 PM
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That was on New Years Eve.
Kjeld Hillingsų was on TV telling about PH that night.
PH was quiet, but otherwise in good spirit and in good health. He was able to play bridge very well.
- So this rapid deterioration has shocked Kjeld Hillingsų.

As for Etienne de Monpezat. I imagine he has been kept informed and he may have been told a day or two ago that is was going downhill for PH. But it may simply not really have dawned on him yet, that the condition has suddenly gone from weeks to days.

I don't know how the DRF information-chain works in regards to PH's French relatives. Again, I imagine that one person is left in charge of informing the French relatives. Logic says that would be QMII herself or Joachim. And whether say Joachim calls as many French relatives as deemed necessary or whether he leaves it to one French relative to be the liason is anyone's guess. In that case a qualified guess IMO would be PH's nephew who lives in DK.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:10 PM
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This is all very weird to me right now because my dad just got out of the hospital after battling a lung infection.

My guess, just based on my own experiences, is that they may be at the point where Henrik is not able to breathe well enough and needs a ventilator or even an intubation, all of which counts as extraordinary measures. My dad refused them (and even tried to leave the hospital against medical advice until it got to the point that he was struggling to breathe). Luckily, he responded very quickly to antibiotics and was able to come home a week ago.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:12 PM
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Frederik is likely home by now but has probably gone home to Amalienborg to sleep a few hours (the clock is 1.12 nighttime here now) and will visit Rigshospitalet the first thing he does tomorrow.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:17 PM
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This is a tough time. I hope God comfort them during this time.
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Old 02-09-2018, 09:24 PM
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As for Etienne de Monpezat. I imagine he has been kept informed and he may have been told a day or two ago that is was going downhill for PH. But it may simply not really have dawned on him yet, that the condition has suddenly gone from weeks to days.
And, people have their own ways of processing the same news. I remember in my own family that when we heard my father was "at the end," some thought it meant he had hours, while other thought he had weeks or months.
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:11 PM
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Interestingly PH has been visited by the Chief of Court, Michael Ehrenreich.
That seems to be unusual.
What is the Chief of Court and why would it be unusual?
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:20 PM
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Is this post like the Lord Chamberlain in Britain? Wonder whether it's something to do with Pr Henrik's will, or maybe (just in case) funeral arrangements? Some elderly people plan their own while they are well.
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Yes, the Hofmarskal (Chief of Court / Court Marshal) is the Danish equivalent of the Lord Chamberlain in the UK.
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Old 02-09-2018, 10:55 PM
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That would be a sticky situation as someone with Alzheimer's is no longer considered legally competent to do things such as alter his will, etc.
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Old 02-09-2018, 11:14 PM
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Thena....
I am so happy for you that your father has recovered and is home and recovering.
I will keep you, your father, Prince Henrik and Queen Margrethe in my prayers.
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Old 02-10-2018, 12:52 AM
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Sounds very plausible.
Also perhaps in regards to his funeral. Especially if there is nothing in writing. - Considering PH's strong views on the matter, which may very well have been reinforced even more by now by his dementia, QMII might not be the right person to ask PH exactly where he wish to be buried and how.
Such disturbing news from Denmark; I think Prince Henrik may no longer wish to stay among us and is on his way to another playing field...I always thought heaven must be a very interesting place He will wait for Crown Prince Frederik but I imagine the family discussions must be very intense right now, so that I do not wonder the Court chamberlain came by for further instructions, if possible. My prayers and best wishes are with the Danish Royal Family; losing a pater familias is very difficult, I know from personal experience.
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Old 02-10-2018, 01:42 AM
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I knew when the news was released about the benign lung tumor and Henrik having pneumonia that it was not going to end well. My own father had Alzheimer's and he lived for 10 yr. after diagnosis. His death came from contracting pneumonia, this brings back memories for me. It's callous to say, but Henrik's passing is better for him and his family than the long decline my father had. I wouldn't wish this disease on anyone or his/her family.
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Old 02-10-2018, 02:32 AM
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Wow I was shocked. I don't follow the Danes very much, I knew Henrik had been diagnosed and retired. But I saw the news on facebook thanks to Majesty magazine, about the court release.

I always try to keep as positive as possible, without any direct information, but hard here. Fred being called home from Korea, doesn't sound good at all.

There is some small mercy if he doesn't suffer for years from this disease. Both for him and those who love him. But that doesn't make the loss any less.

If he sadly passes during the Olympics, and a funeral is held, will people like CG and Sylvia return for the funeral? I know there is talk Henrik wanted a more private funeral, but I'd think there would be at least a few foreign royals even then. The Scandinavian royals are so close. Or would Victoria go in their place?
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