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Old 06-01-2019, 10:37 AM
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What a wonderful memory to hold on to.
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Old 06-01-2019, 10:48 AM
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The IMO currently best royal reporter on BB, Trine Larsen, has been remembering PH and the relationship between them, that over the years developed into a professional friendship.
Each year on her birthday, he sang the birthday song for her.

- A nice touch you rarely see between royals and royal reporters.
Very considerate of him. I can see why many of the Danes who met Prince Henrik were fond of him.


I have a question to ask in regard to the sermon given at the Prince's funeral. If I understood it correctly, the bishop remarked that along with the missing job description and title of a male consort, "other" circumstances probably had a role in the prince's feelings of being excluded and overlooked. What other circumstances was the bishop pointing to?
Mindre lykkelig følte prinsen sin rolle i det danske monarki og med årene kom hans kritik heraf stærkere frem. Han følte sig undertiden forbigået og overset, og gav den manglende arbejdsbeskrivelse og titulatur for prinsgemaler skylden. Andre forhold har sikkert også spillet ind, men hans kritik fyldte meget i spalterne og delte befolkningen i to grupper: De som forstod prinsens anfægtelser, og de som kritiserede ham.
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Old 06-01-2019, 11:44 AM
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Mindre lykkelig følte prinsen sin rolle i det danske monarki og med årene kom hans kritik heraf stærkere frem. Han følte sig undertiden forbigået og overset, og gav den manglende arbejdsbeskrivelse og titulatur for prinsgemaler skylden. Andre forhold har sikkert også spillet ind, men hans kritik fyldte meget i spalterne og delte befolkningen i to grupper: De som forstod prinsens anfægtelser, og de som kritiserede ham.

"Less happy did the Prince feel with his role in the Danish monarchy and over the years his criticism of that emerged ever stronger. At times he fell passe by and overlooked, and blamed the lacking job-description and title for prince consorts. Other causes were surely also a factor, but his criticism took up a lot of space in the (newspaper) columns and divided the population into two groups: Those who understood the reservations of the Prince and those who criticized him."

The circumstances referred to can be anything. General dissatisfaction about not being number two in regards to the Constitution. I.e. feeling usurped by his oldest son.
Not feeling his title reflected his position within the family. I.e. as head of the family and an equal to his wife.
Feeling at times unappreciated for his work and ridiculed.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:27 PM
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The IMO currently best royal reporter on BB, Trine Larsen, has been remembering PH and the relationship between them, that over the years developed into a professional friendship.
Each year on her birthday, he sang the birthday song for her.

- A nice touch you rarely see between royals and royal reporters.
For those members of the forums that understand Danish I can highly recommend the podcast "Danmarks royale podcast" where Trine was a guest a few weeks ago and told about her memories of the Prince. It was apparent how fond of him she were.
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Old 06-01-2019, 12:27 PM
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In reading the above, IMO, The Prince loved his wife very much, however, he resented her being Queen and loved by her Country. The Prince wanted to be King and the head of Denmark, even though he was born in France and with that and other laws, it meant he never could be King. His resentment in many ways ate at him and we all saw in the last years. It was a very sad situation. I can only imagine how bad it was behind the Castle walls. I hope the Prince is resting in peace now. Again this is my own opinion.
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Old 06-01-2019, 02:21 PM
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For those members of the forums that understand Danish I can highly recommend the podcast "Danmarks royale podcast" where Trine was a guest a few weeks ago and told about her memories of the Prince. It was apparent how fond of him she were.
Very recommended, yes!

IIRC she was also present inside the church at the funeral ceremony for the friends - in her capacity as a friend and not a reporter.
A rare thing between a royal reporter and a senior royal.
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:23 PM
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Summary of article in Billed Bladet #19, 2019.
Written by Ulrik Ulriksen.

In accordance with the very detailed will of PH, his extensive collection of jade and African art will be put up for auction.

A number of pieces have been kept by the family and a number of choice pieces will remain at Chateau Cayx.

The surplus from the auction will go to Crown Prince Frederik and Crown Princess Mary's Foundation as well as the Nikolai and Felix Foundation.

It will be the auction house of Bruun Rasmussen who will handle the auction in August 2019. The Bruun Rasmussen family is well acquainted with the DRF. In fact it is the daughter of the owner, Alexa Bruun Rasmussen, who will be the auctioneer.
It is assumed there will be two physical auctions as well as a couple of online auctions, but the details are not yet in place.
A list of items is expected to be published in early August.
VIDEO: See Prince Henrik's art collection at auction
https://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelig...ng-paa-auktion
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Old 08-16-2019, 01:55 PM
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excited to see PH's collection, how interesting he chose to auction it rather than keeping it in the family. i also didn't know there was a 'Nikolai and Felix Foundation', or that PH was an avid collector of jade and african art.

i believe mary bought via Bruun Rasmussen a number of antique jewelry, including her edwardian tiara.
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Old 08-27-2019, 03:36 PM
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The first auction is about to start and three items in particular have caused considerable interest beforehand and the preliminary bids have already surpassed the estimated value.
https://www.bt.dk/royale/prins-henri...rad-overrasket

This auction has caused considerable interest here in DK, even among ordinary people, because there are so many items and most are affordable, also for ordinary Danes - many of whom might very well like a little memento of PH.

ADDED:

This the first auction has been a success!
https://jyllands-posten.dk/kultur/EC...ivate-samling/

Not only were there many serious bidders, both Danish and foreign, some even who knew PH personally.
And quite a lot of ordinary Danes, some of whom have never to an auction before.

- I think that must be so comforting for QMII and the rest of the family.
Because despite the fact that PH was a very colorful and sometimes even controversial figure, he was also genuinely liked by the public.
Sometimes you wanted to have a beer (or perhaps rather a glass of wine with him,) and laugh with him, and at other times you wanted to hit him, repeatedly, on the head with a shovel.
I'm glad PH got to experience that he was liked (most of the time) for the last couple of decades of his life. - That he perhaps misunderstood that popularity with a support for his pet-project - being given the title of king - is regrettable.
It's good that PH, in a way, will end up in many private and ordinary homes. I think he would have liked that. It's not a bad legacy.
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Old 08-28-2019, 01:35 PM
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This should be on the thread of Royal Auctions.
I am a Costumer of Bruun Rasmussen , I logged it.
Oriental Jade part I , right now , more than the double of their Estimation. Always like this when it comes from Royals.
It was The owner who is the Commiseur Priseur. Great Deal for his Auction House
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Old 08-28-2019, 03:24 PM
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I hope you find something you like.

This auction has been given quite a lot of coverage.
Not least because PH also collected erotic art, especially among his jade-collection.
That includes phallus-symbols. There are really not that many, that are a part of fertility symbols that is found in most cultures.
But this being PH, they do of course get attention. It's not like people are falling down the chairs that a royal was in possession of such artifacts, people are more interested in the cultural aspect actually. African and oriental art not being that well-known among ordinary Danes.
But see for yourselves.

WARNING. The article depicts photos of phallus symbols.

https://www.bt.dk/kendte/prins-henri...-erotisk-kunst

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The auction has been a success so far, with the items generally being sold at way above estimated value.https://www.bt.dk/kendte/prins-henri...e-stak-helt-af
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Old 08-28-2019, 04:16 PM
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WARNING. The article depicts photos of phallus symbols.

https://www.bt.dk/kendte/prins-henri...-erotisk-kunst

Photos of phallus symbols? Ok, ?
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Old 08-28-2019, 10:08 PM
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WARNING. The article depicts photos of phallus symbols.

https://www.bt.dk/kendte/prins-henri...-erotisk-kunst

Photos of phallus symbols? Ok, ?
I am entertained by the Prince Consort's taste in jade but I believe his interest in phallic symbols is also informed by the best jade already available in a somewhat more mundane form: thanks to the Imperial Museum in Taipei!
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Old 08-29-2019, 08:17 AM
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When I saw the Auction in live, 1000 Kr , 1000 Kr more , the estimation was very low.An Ordinary Dane should not buy and I am not interested Mr Muhler!
I said to myself Denmark gave a lot to Prince Henrik.
To day part 2.
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Old 08-29-2019, 03:35 PM
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I saw part 2.
The Winner is the Auction House Bruun Rasmussen . Who bought the Prince Collection?
I hope Museums and collectors.
Himself was a jade Collector . It started when he was young and lived in Indochine.

He said he never had money ...
Don't tell me his collection were all presents. He knew quite well what he bought and had the money for.
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Old 08-29-2019, 04:18 PM
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I saw part 2.
The Winner is the Auction House Bruun Rasmussen . Who bought the Prince Collection?
I hope Museums and collectors.
Himself was a jade Collector . It started when he was young and lived in Indochine.

He said he never had money ...
Don't tell me his collection were all presents. He knew quite well what he bought and had the money for.
Oh, he did buy most of his collection. The African collection I imagine he very much bought on location so to speak. I.e. when he was in Africa and visited markets there. I guess many items could be acquired for a reasonable price.
And I recently read that he bid on online auctions, with considerable excitement actually, so presumably he made a fixed bid.

Anyway, the auction has now ended:
https://jyllands-posten.dk/indland/E...de-blev-solgt/

All 883 items have been sold.
Many items went at double or triple or in a few cases for as much a ten times the estimated value. So the auction house is very pleased.
They will not disclose however how much money changed hand.

Later on an additional 3.000 items will be sold on online auctions. But according to an article I read at the BB site, the auction house is considering a new physical auction instead.
But until then these 3.000 or so items will need to be evaluated and cleaned.
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Old 08-29-2019, 05:12 PM
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Here are tow additional articles about the auction. They are so interesting I will return to them tomorrow, it's getting late.

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/da...ng-i-fuld-gang

This one in particular deserve a translation:
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/ji...han-var-morsom

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Old 08-30-2019, 04:05 PM
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Here are three additional articles about the auction. They are interesting.
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/da...ng-i-fuld-gang

This one in particular deserve a translation:
This is about the self-proclaimed super-royalist, Jim Lyngvild. The one with the busts of QMII and Frederik. He too went to the auctions and bought two of PH's African masks.
He ended up paying more that twice the estimated value.
"When I saw these masks - one big a bit coarse maske and another smaller, a little fine, mask - I thought that looks like the Queen and Prince Henrik, so they were going home to hang at Ravnsborg." (*)

The collection very much reflects the humor of PH:
"It's corny/poor taste to say, but notice how many penis-figures there are in the collection. The man had super-much humor and that is reflected in this collection.
It telss that the Prince had a genuine knowledge about this. But the things he chose to buy aren't just neat and decorative. It's the soul of Africa - and also the ugly bits. And that's what turns me on about this collection - that it was passion rather than an interest in selling it and earn money on it. To be allowed to buy some of it, is like stepping into the brain of an artistic soul, and you must have respect and be humble about that. "

Jim Lyngvild remember i private dinner with PH he attended the year before pH died. The two of them discussed art, while PH kept an eye on a bid for a piece of African art on an online auction:
"He was sitting there bidding, being excited like a small child as to whether he would get it."

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/ji...han-var-morsom

Another is about a good friend of PH, antiques-dealer Oliver Klitgaard, who is also a collector of jade, although his collection is much smaller than PH's.
The two of them went hunting for jade-items in China.
In the article Oliver Klitgaard is holding a piece of Jade that was meant for PH and which he showed off the day before PH died. He has now kept it in memory of PH.

"To the great amusement of those we bought from he often pulled out his hunting knife and tried to cut in the pieces of Jade we were looking at. Jade is a hard rock and it isn't possible to cut the stone with stainless steel."

But it did actually happen that they came across items that were not real jade.

At the markets PH gathered a crowd around him as a matter of course.
"They never came over to me. He must have had an aura around him. He always gathered a crowd around himself."

A second photo is from a winter in Beijing, where PH and Oliver Klitgaard had a closer look at pretty much the only jade seller at the market that day.
"It shows how much he was into this."

The auction is very hard on Oliver Klitgaard:
"It's after all 20 years of memories that are being sold. Thousands of kilometers we have walked in order to find the right pieces of jade."

https://www.bt.dk/kendte/prins-henri...-med-auktionen

(*) Ravnsborg is the home of Jim Lyngvild and his husband, designed by himself in the style of the Viking. Jim Lyngvild adheres to the Asa faith, which is the faith of the old norse gods. That is an official acknowledged religion in DK, meaning they are allowed to perform valid marriages and burials.
Jim Lyngvild is a colorful character so it's no wonder he and PH got together!
he is among many things also a fashion designer and he has recently been a consultant in designing Viking clothes for an exhibition at the National Museum.
Here are a number of photos of Ravnsborg:
https://www.invita.dk/imagevault/pub...5/_G4A3140.jpg
His Asa-temple:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cNhl_cx5I...00/gudehov.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/be...ad94393b27.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XzBkq78cnMU/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.detrigtigefaaborg.dk/wp-c...6-1068x710.jpg
https://images.fyens.dk/33/3728333_1...000_2500_2.jpg
Viking fashion exhibited at the National Museum
https://natmus.dk/uploads/tx_tccards...s_web_16x9.jpg
https://ekstrabladet.dk/incoming/49z...0/jim-lyngvild
https://asset.dr.dk/imagescaler01/ht...caleAfter=crop
https://pov.international/wp-content...t-09.12.55.png
https://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/si...1543959226.png
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Old 08-30-2019, 09:42 PM
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Here are three additional articles about the auction. They are interesting.
https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/da...ng-i-fuld-gang

This one in particular deserve a translation:
This is about the self-proclaimed super-royalist, Jim Lyngvild. The one with the busts of QMII and Frederik. He too went to the auctions and bought two of PH's African masks.
He ended up paying more that twice the estimated value.
"When I saw these masks - one big a bit coarse maske and another smaller, a little fine, mask - I thought that looks like the Queen and Prince Henrik, so they were going home to hang at Ravnsborg." (*)

The collection very much reflects the humor of PH:
"It's corny/poor taste to say, but notice how many penis-figures there are in the collection. The man had super-much humor and that is reflected in this collection.
It telss that the Prince had a genuine knowledge about this. But the things he chose to buy aren't just neat and decorative. It's the soul of Africa - and also the ugly bits. And that's what turns me on about this collection - that it was passion rather than an interest in selling it and earn money on it. To be allowed to buy some of it, is like stepping into the brain of an artistic soul, and you must have respect and be humble about that. "

Jim Lyngvild remember i private dinner with PH he attended the year before pH died. The two of them discussed art, while PH kept an eye on a bid for a piece of African art on an online auction:
"He was sitting there bidding, being excited like a small child as to whether he would get it."

https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/ji...han-var-morsom

Another is about a good friend of PH, antiques-dealer Oliver Klitgaard, who is also a collector of jade, although his collection is much smaller than PH's.
The two of them went hunting for jade-items in China.
In the article Oliver Klitgaard is holding a piece of Jade that was meant for PH and which he showed off the day before PH died. He has now kept it in memory of PH.

"To the great amusement of those we bought from he often pulled out his hunting knife and tried to cut in the pieces of Jade we were looking at. Jade is a hard rock and it isn't possible to cut the stone with stainless steel."

But it did actually happen that they came across items that were not real jade.

At the markets PH gathered a crowd around him as a matter of course.
"They never came over to me. He must have had an aura around him. He always gathered a crowd around himself."

A second photo is from a winter in Beijing, where PH and Oliver Klitgaard had a closer look at pretty much the only jade seller at the market that day.
"It shows how much he was into this."

The auction is very hard on Oliver Klitgaard:
"It's after all 20 years of memories that are being sold. Thousands of kilometers we have walked in order to find the right pieces of jade."

https://www.bt.dk/kendte/prins-henri...-med-auktionen

(*) Ravnsborg is the home of Jim Lyngvild and his husband, designed by himself in the style of the Viking. Jim Lyngvild adheres to the Asa faith, which is the faith of the old norse gods. That is an official acknowledged religion in DK, meaning they are allowed to perform valid marriages and burials.
Jim Lyngvild is a colorful character so it's no wonder he and PH got together!
he is among many things also a fashion designer and he has recently been a consultant in designing Viking clothes for an exhibition at the National Museum.
Here are a number of photos of Ravnsborg:
https://www.invita.dk/imagevault/pub...5/_G4A3140.jpg
His Asa-temple:
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cNhl_cx5I...00/gudehov.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bf/be...ad94393b27.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XzBkq78cnMU/maxresdefault.jpg
http://www.detrigtigefaaborg.dk/wp-c...6-1068x710.jpg
https://images.fyens.dk/33/3728333_1...000_2500_2.jpg
Viking fashion exhibited at the National Museum
https://natmus.dk/uploads/tx_tccards...s_web_16x9.jpg
https://ekstrabladet.dk/incoming/49z...0/jim-lyngvild
https://asset.dr.dk/imagescaler01/ht...caleAfter=crop
https://pov.international/wp-content...t-09.12.55.png
https://www.kristeligt-dagblad.dk/si...1543959226.png
Mange tak Muhler! Such an interesting story about the Ravnsborg and its owner; I shall be watching for more information about this gentleman as I am very interested in the Viking culture that Canada shares with Denmark!
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Old 09-04-2019, 12:11 PM
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Then he will be an interesting guy to go to, gerry.

The tabloid BT has estimated the total amount that came in from the sale of the first 800 of PH's items.
The estimation says 9.000.000 DKK, minus taxes, fee to the auction house and expenses.
- That's a pretty decent amount for a collection that didn't consist of the most expensive or rare items.
https://www.bt.dk/royale/millionerne...enriks-samling

And there are still more than 5.000 items left to go on auction.

9 million DKK = very roughly one million Pounds.
1,25 million €
1.75 million $
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