Your thoughts about (Dutch) Abdications - Page 4

BeatrixFan · #61 12-27-2007, 11:07 AM

I'm not Dutch but I feel that there's little point in Queen Beatrix stepping down when she seems to do such a brilliant job at being a very modern monarch who's truly popular and an expert at what she does. I'm sure Prince Willem-Alexander will be a good King but everyone has their time and I don't think now is his.

**Stefan** · #62 12-27-2007, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by cristine

I have a question: the abdication is a tradition of the Dutch royal family? If Beatrix won't want to abdicate, she can be the queen till she die or she has to give the throne to WA?

She don't has to abdicate if she don't want it.

cristine · #63 12-28-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan

She don't has to abdicate if she don't want it.

Thanks for answered it. I almost thought abdication was an obligation.

Volmer · #64 12-29-2007, 09:12 AM

[quote=Marengo;708956]Gossip magazine Prive had am simular story, according to them there is a ´palace wisdom´ that says ´in het jaar van de acht, een wisseling van de wacht´ (a year with an 8, a change of guards) (enthronements in 1890/1898, 1948, 1980...2008?) They base their date of September 6th on the sheduele of exhibitions in the Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam, as it is unclear what exhibition will be around at that date.

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I've been reading this thread with great interest. But I do not understand what all the fuzz is about. Everybody keeps mentioning that the Nieuwe Kerk has no exhibitions around September 2008. But according to their website there is an exhibition scheduled starting 26 July till 26 October 2008. It takes a long time to prepare exhibitions like this, so personally I do not believe Queen Beatrix will step down anytime soon. Certainly not on 6 September.

lucien · #65 01-05-2008, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Marengo

Gossip magazine Prive had am simular story, according to them there is a ´palace wisdom´ that says ´in het jaar van de acht, een wisseling van de wacht´ (a year with an 8, a change of guards) (enthronements in 1890/1898, 1948, 1980...2008?) They base their date of September 6th on the sheduele of exhibitions in the Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam, as it is unclear what exhibition will be around at that date.

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I've been reading this thread with great interest. But I do not understand what all the fuzz is about. Everybody keeps mentioning that the Nieuwe Kerk has no exhibitions around September 2008. But according to their website there is an exhibition scheduled starting 26 July till 26 October 2008. It takes a long time to prepare exhibitions like this, so personally I do not believe Queen Beatrix will step down anytime soon. Certainly not on 6 September.

I agree Volker,it's all guessing.Besides,the Palace will not be ready till at least next year as it is still undergoing renovation.

All these rags and the likes have to fill their pages too....

prinsesbeagle · #66 01-05-2008, 07:52 AM

Clearly the rags are just as clueless as everyone else. But hey, they're just going to be yelling thise every month for the next few years just so that at SOME point, they can say "told ya so" (which is nonsense of course cuz they're wrong 95% of the times).

My guess is it won't be next year. Too obvious and I really think she's going to chose a moment when nobody expects it. I don't think it's going to be some historic date etc.

JohnRaven · #67 01-17-2008, 06:57 AM

My best guess is 2013 or 2015. It would be a bicenteniary of the restoration of power of the Orange-Nassau's and the investiture of the first King of the Netherlands, Willem (Frederik) I, respectivelyand leaves WA and Maxima some time to raise their daughters without the additional burden of Kingship. But as already mentioned. Time will tell. If the Queen falls ill or lacks the strength to go on, she will abdicate sooner. I doubt if she will stay on later than 2013/2015. She will be 75/77 by that time.

Duke of Marmalade · #68 10-08-2008, 11:27 AM

I have a question: Does anyone recall the timing of Juliana's abdication - how quickly became Beatrix Queen after Juliana's televised speech to the public? Days? Weeks? Months? Just interested in the process how much time it would take to complete the transition from announcement to coronation. Thx!

lucien · #69 10-08-2008, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

I have a question: Does anyone recall the timing of Juliana's abdication - how quickly became Beatrix Queen after Juliana's televised speech to the public? Days? Weeks? Months? Just interested in the process how much time it would take to complete the transition from announcement to coronation. Thx!

Three months,from the announcement on january 31st 1980,birthday of the then Princess Beatrix,to HM Queen Juliana's birthday on april 30th 1980,that saw the Enthronement of Queen Beatrix.(We don't have Coronations here).

But,forget it.HM will not abdicate in any forseeable future,yet..

Duke of Marmalade · #70 10-08-2008, 11:50 AM

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Three months,from the announcement on january 31st 1980,birthday of the then Princess Beatrix,to HM Queen Juliana's birthday on april 30th 1980,that saw the Enthronement of Queen Beatrix.(We don't have Coronations here).

But,forget it.HM will not abdicate in any forseeable future,yet..

Thanks Lucien

Yes I hope not but interesting to see how quickly it is possible to do in our bureaucratic world!

**Marengo** · #71 10-08-2008, 12:58 PM

Well, I think that HM won't abdiscate before the royal palace on Dam square is ready and by the looks of it (I pass it every day) that will take a while!

The gossip mags are speculating wildly of course, but in the end the PoO said it all: only one person knows (and that is HM).

lucien · #72 10-08-2008, 05:05 PM

They're not even finished with the interior,and they still have to clean the outside up in its old splendour.

Besides that,who says HM wishes to abdicate,at all....

For the time being she's perfectly happy doing what she does,our Beatrix Regina.

Iain · #73 10-09-2008, 02:59 AM

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But,forget it.HM will not abdicate in any forseeable future,yet..

GOOD! I hope she goes on forever.

sneeuwklokje · #74 10-09-2008, 03:34 AM

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GOOD! I hope she goes on forever.

I don't recall the fountain of eternal youth being in Huis Ten Bosch's backyard!!

Iain · #75 10-15-2008, 03:08 AM

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I don't recall the fountain of eternal youth being in Huis Ten Bosch's backyard!!

Well, perhaps not forever but at least another 10-15 years.

sneeuwklokje · #76 10-16-2008, 03:01 AM

15 Years?? Then she will be 85 years old. Dutch monarchs usually abdicate long before that.

lucien · #77 10-16-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by sneeuwklokje

15 Years?? Then she will be 85 years old. Dutch monarchs usually abdicate long before that.

Usually?

Just because the two previous ones did so doesn't make it a tradition.
HM might just as well remain HM untill her last breath.

As Alexander said,there´s only one who knows,and that is HM herself.
Anything else is pure speculation.

sneeuwklokje · #78 10-16-2008, 06:15 AM

She won't be Queen untill her last breath, no way. I don't think she will abdicate tomorrow, but hey, why bother fixing up Drake(n)steyn if she is to stay in Den Haag?

**Marengo** · #79 10-16-2008, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by lucien

Usually?

Just because the two previous ones did so doesn't make it a tradition.
HM might just as well remain HM untill her last breath.

As Alexander said,there´s only one who knows,and that is HM herself.
Anything else is pure speculation.

Well, those were the only monarchs in that are still in the public memory right now. I think that it is fair to assume HM will abdicate at one point, everybody (give or take a few royalty posters) assumes she will and considering HM is a very pragmatic person she would hardly want her son to wait, wait and wait, which can be teribly frustrating. For now she probably wants him to have some more easy years with his young family but in a few years she might decide it is his turn and abdicate. As Queen Juliana put it: "Everyone who is getting old is sooner or later confronted with the sober fact that powers diminish and that one cannot carry out one's task as one used to. And then there comes a moment when it's no longer justified to continue carrying out duties. I feel that the moment has come to resign as your Queen."

**Stefan** · #80 10-16-2008, 01:20 PM

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Well, those were the only monarchs in that are still in the public memory right now. I think that it is fair to assume HM will abdicate at one point, everybody (give or take a few royalty posters) assumes she will and considering HM is a very pragmatic person she would hardly want her son to wait, wait and wait, which can be teribly frustrating. For now she probably wants him to have some more easy years with his young family but in a few years she might decide it is his turn and abdicate. As Queen Juliana put it: "Everyone who is getting old is sooner or later confronted with the sober fact that powers diminish and that one cannot carry out one's task as one used to. And then there comes a moment when it's no longer justified to continue carrying out duties. I feel that the moment has come to resign as your Queen."

But if she abdicates already 3 monarchs in a row have abdicated. This will it make more difficult for another King/Queen who doesn't want to abdicate to remain on the throne until his/her death.