Remembrance and Liberation Day: May 4 and 5, 2004-2022

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Marengo

A clip of the remembrance ceremony on 4 May 2012 (31 minutes, the royals come after 4 minutes):

The lady next to HM is the chairwoman of the comitee 4 and 5 May.

Before the remembrance there was a meeting in the New Church (next to the palace), which was controversial as a 15 y/o boy was selected to read a poem about his great uncle, who was a member of the SS. The poem was withdrawn due to criticism from survivors.

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Like Hendrik-Jan, it indeed felt almost as if the Queen was waving goodbye to her reign. But indeed, that is speculation and I am sure she has other things on her mind right now than preparing for all that.

The entire concert, HM is waving goodbye after 1h 29m:

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Very nice that president Gauck and his partner attended the concert too. He seems sympathetic and had quite a royal week(s), meeting the Swedish & Luxembourg reigning couple, as well as queen Beatrix (twice!).

No,HM didn't wave her farewell...what people read and see...loveble,yes,but this Lady isn't moving any time soon.

Some more lovely pics of may 5th:

ROYALIMAGES | ANP Foto

courtesy anp

[lucien]

Their Majesties King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima will attend the Remembrance ceremony at the Nieuwe Kerk,Amsterdam may 4th and will lay a wreath at the National Monument at Dam Square after which a two minute silence will be observed at 20.00PM.

TM King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima as well as HRH Princess Beatrix will attend the Liberation Day concert on the Amstel River,Amsterdam on may 5th.Marvellous!!

[iceflower]

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Here are some pics and a video of the ceremony today:



** ppe gallery ** anp gallery 1 ** anp gallery 2 ** gettyimages gallery **

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-QbSuZBURY

[NGalitzine]

After years of WA appearing in uniform at this event it seems odd to seem him dressed in a suit. I thought a new non-rank uniform with special insignia had been designed for the King to wear on accassions when uniforms would be appropriate.
Did Prince Maurits attend in his new role as adjutant to the King?

[Ilse]

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

After years of WA appearing in uniform at this event it seems odd to seem him dressed in a suit. I thought a new non-rank uniform with special insignia had been designed for the King to wear on accassions when uniforms would be appropriate.
Did Prince Maurits attend in his new role as adjutant to the King?

No, Maurits did not attend

[Marika86]

Another photogallery

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[Marengo]

I was in the public today. General van Uhm (the general who was in the cortege of the king on 30 April) had quite an impressive speech, and mentioned his son who died five years ago in Afghanistan. The speaker referred to 'HM the King and HM the Queen, which is incorrect as it is HM Queen Máxima. I am sure this will happen for the next decades of the kings reign. Odd to hear the speaker talk about 'Their Majesties' (we didn't have that since 1890).

I find the whole idea that the king can't be a member of the militairy quite odd, but soit...

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by Marengo

I was in the public today. General van Uhm (the general who was in the cortege of the king on 30 April) had quite an impressive speech, and mentioned his son who died five years ago in Afghanistan. The speaker referred to 'HM the King and HM the Queen, which is incorrect as it is HM Queen Máxima. I am sure this will happen for the next decades of the kings reign. Odd to hear the speaker talk about 'Their Majesties' (we didn't have that since 1890).

I find the whole idea that the king can't be a member of the militairy quite odd, but soit...

Luck you Marengo,did you manage to see Their Majesties. It was strange seeing Beatrix present for the first year is such a long,long time!

[ashelen]

i found this photo in facebook hope you can see it!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...levant_count=1

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Marengo

I was in the public today. General van Uhm (the general who was in the cortege of the king on 30 April) had quite an impressive speech, and mentioned his son who died five years ago in Afghanistan. The speaker referred to 'HM the King and HM the Queen, which is incorrect as it is HM Queen Máxima. I am sure this will happen for the next decades of the kings reign. Odd to hear the speaker talk about 'Their Majesties' (we didn't have that since 1890).

I find the whole idea that the king can't be a member of the militairy quite odd, but soit...

Peter van Uhm striked the core of may 4th.Very very impressive indeed!!
It was quite unusual there was applaus after a speech on may 4th,but this
speech was one of a kind by a one of a kind guy.Everybody was moved.

More from Amsterdam:

http://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?eventid=1527216

His brother,General-Major Mark van Uhm,attended the Remembrance ceremony at the Grebbeberg,Rhenen,the venue of fierce fighting between Dutch and the invading German troops in may 1940.HRH Princess Margriet,Pieter van Vollenhoven en HH Prince Pieter-Christiaan were in attendance at Rhenen as well.

http://www.anpfoto.nl/search.pp?eventid=1527219

Courtesy ANP

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Marengo

The speaker referred to 'HM the King and HM the Queen, which is incorrect as it is HM Queen Máxima.

Is that so? I thought it was only "the queen" as there is only one at the moment? Beatrix reverted back to her title of princess, so there is no need to distinguish between two queens. Such a problem only arises when there is a dowager queen and the wife of the reigning king, so there is a need to make a difference. But even then Maxima as the wife of the reigning king would be the queen, no?

[iceflower]

Large pics from yesterday can be found here (click on zoom before saving):


** King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima Of The Netherlands Attend Remembrance Day In Amsterdam **

[Ish]

Originally Posted by Kataryn

Is that so? I thought it was only "the queen" as there is only one at the moment? Beatrix reverted back to her title of princess, so there is no need to distinguish between two queens. Such a problem only arises when there is a dowager queen and the wife of the reigning king, so there is a need to make a difference. But even then Maxima as the wife of the reigning king would be the queen, no?

The last Queen Consort gives us a good understanding of what Maxima's current titles are and future titles may be open to her. Emma was the spouse of William III, then the regent for her daughter, Wilhelmina, before becoming "simply" the dowager queen. Her titles were:

- Her Serene Highness Princess Emma of Waldeck and Pyrmont (prior to her marriage)
- Her Majesty The Queen of the Netherlands, Princess of Waldeck and Pyrmont (during her marriage)
- Her Majesty Queen Emma of the Netherlands, The Queen Regent (during her daughter's minority)
- Her Majesty Queen Emma of the Netherlands, The Queen Mother (the rest of her life)

Currently, Maxima's current title is Her Majesty The Queen of the Netherlands. If her husband doesn't one day abdicate then she may one day become The Queen Regent, The Queen Mother, and/or The Dowager Queen.

[Stefan]

Originally Posted by Ish

The last Queen Consort gives us a good understanding of what Maxima's current titles are and future titles may be open to her. Emma was the spouse of William III, then the regent for her daughter, Wilhelmina, before becoming "simply" the dowager queen. Her titles were:

- Her Serene Highness Princess Emma of Waldeck and Pyrmont (prior to her marriage)
- Her Majesty The Queen of the Netherlands, Princess of Waldeck and Pyrmont (during her marriage)
- Her Majesty Queen Emma of the Netherlands, The Queen Regent (during her daughter's minority)
- Her Majesty Queen Emma of the Netherlands, The Queen Mother (the rest of her life)

Currently, Maxima's current title is Her Majesty The Queen of the Netherlands. If her husband doesn't one day abdicate then she may one day become The Queen Regent, The Queen Mother, and/or The Dowager Queen.

According to the official Information Maxima is not the Queen of the Netherlands but Queen Maxima, Princess of the Netherlands. She is alllowed to be called Queen.

"Will Princess Máxima become Queen?
Yes. As the King's wife, Princess Máxima will be referred to as the Queen. Her official title will be Queen Máxima, Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau."

Quote from: Frequently asked questions - Het Koninklijk Huis

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by Stefan

According to the official Information Maxima is not the Queen of the Netherlands but Queen Maxima, Princess of the Netherlands. She is alllowed to be called Queen.

"Will Princess Máxima become Queen?
Yes. As the King's wife, Princess Máxima will be referred to as the Queen. Her official title will be Queen Máxima, Princess of the Netherlands, Princess of Orange-Nassau."

Quote from: Frequently asked questions - Het Koninklijk Huis

But we were talking about how Maxima will be referred to. It is obviously Their Majesties, the king and queen of the Netherlands. Not Their Majesties the king and queen Maxima of the Netherlands.

I like the idea that (if I understood that correctly) members of the Royal family have their own, personal, titles. Their spouses, if male or female, share the rank with them. In some cases you are granted a personal title on marriage, like it happened for Maxima. It did not happen eg for the husbands of Beatrix' sisters, only for their children who are blood-relations of the souverain. But as Maxima shows, a spouse can be granted a personal title. What about Laurentien? Is she a princess of the Netherlands in her own right? I not sure how their internal rank is deemed by their position in the line of succession or through closeness of relation to the souverain or through Royal decree (in a case like Maxima's)?

Then there is the official position of king and of prince/princess of Orange. The spouse of the prince or princess does not share the title, but the position and gets a personal title of prince/princess of the Netherlands. The spouse of the king is according to tradition still his queen, while the spouse of a queen regnant stays Prince of the Netherlands.

But - does Catherina-Amalia as The Princess of Orange outrank her mother? And would she outrank her father if her mother was the queen regnant?

[Moonmaiden23]

Originally Posted by iceflower

Large pics from yesterday can be found here (click on zoom before saving):


** King Willem-Alexander and Queen Maxima Of The Netherlands Attend Remembrance Day In Amsterdam **

I love Maxima's black suit and hat...very chic! She is on a roll!

[lucien]

The weather was beautifull today,a country celebrating Liberation Day!!Tonight,traditionally,the Liberation Day events will be concluded by the Concert on the Amstel River here in Amsterdam.Tonight TM King Willem-Alexander and Queen Máxima will be in attendance,as well as HRH Princess Beatrix!!Just start to imagine the cheers from the crowds on the shores and bridges when we see this trio appear!!The first time to appear in a public function for HRH Princess Beatrix since april 30th.

[dazzling]

May 5, 2013 - King, Queen & Princess Beatrix attending the concert

Pic 1 ** Pic 2

PPE agency gallery

[An Ard Ri]

Originally Posted by dazzling

May 5, 2013 - King, Queen & Princess Beatrix attending the concert

Pic 1 ** Pic 2

PPE agency gallery

Lovely to see the royal trio,feels rather strange not writting 'Queen' before Beatrix,might take me awhile!

[iceflower]

Same for me


Here are some more pics from this evening:


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And some more additional pics from yesterday:


** pp: Willem-Alexander et Maxima : Première cérémonie officielle pour le couple royal **


** hola: Guillermo Alejandro y Máxima de Holanda, solemnidad en su primer acto oficial como Reyes ** translation **