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Here's a video and some more photos of the concert:
** nos.nl video **
** robinutrecht.photoshelter gallery ** gettyimages gallery ** ppe gallery **
Meanwhile Prof. Pieter van Vollenhoven attended a meeting in Wageningen on the occasion of the national commemoration of the capitulations of the German and Japanese occupation forces in the Netherlands and the former Dutch East Indies in 1945:
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Here a video of the 2019 National Remembrance Ceremony in Dam Square
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Here a video of the 2019 National Remembrance Ceremony in Dam Square
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What a crowd. Heartwarming that the Dutch remain committed to remember The Fallen.
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What a crowd. Heartwarming that the Dutch remain committed to remember The Fallen.
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Indeed; very moving to see.
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That will be eerie. The royal couple on an empty Dam Square...
Normal situation at the National Remembrance: https://media.nu.nl/m/m1mxltrah34t_wd640.jpeg
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By exception Flags are at half mast today all day instead of the usual from 18.00PM till after 20.00PM.
Remembrance Day 2020 is like no Remembrance Day before,or,hopefully,will be after.
Tonight will only see TM The King and Queen,PM Mark Rutte,the mayor of Amsterdam Femke Halsema
and the Chair of the 40 45 Committee Gerdi Verbeet on an empty Dam Square,Amsterdam.
HM The King will speech on the Dam Square.All in all I think it `comes in` even more then in other years,
at least that is what I hope,awareness,not just for today only.A broader awareness of what is what and why
and how we got where we are today and act accordingly.
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So many events were planned for the 75th anniversary of VE Day. We usually have a Bank Holiday on the first Monday in May (I know most countries always have one on May 1st), but this year it's been moved to May 8th. We'll all have to mark the event at home.
Strange to see Dam Square so empty. I stayed at a hotel very close to there, a few years ago.
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It is noteworthy that the king not only speeched at the Remembrance at the Dam (which he normally doesn't) but also that he included the following phrase:
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"Medemensen voelden zich in de steek gelaten, onvoldoende gehoord, onvoldoende gesteund, al was het maar met woorden. Ook vanuit Londen, ook door mijn overgrootmoeder, toch standvastig en fel in haar verzet. Het is iets dat me niet loslaat."
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Translated: "Fellow men felt let down, insufficiently hear, insufficiently supported, if only with words. Also from London, also by my great-grandmother, yet steadfast and fierce in her resistance. It's something I cant let go of."
This phrase most likely refers to queen Wilhelmina hardly ever touching upon the persecution of the Jews in WWII and never explicitly condemning it - while doing regular radio speeches during the war.
This comes less than 2 months after the public apologies by the king in Indonesia. I guess him being a historian plays off and apparently the current PM also let's him do so (unlike his mother who also wanted to offer apologies but wasn't allowed to during her state visit to Indonesia).
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What an impressive ceremony. An empty Dam square is quite special in general but today even more so. The King's speech was very good and frank, perhaps the best one he ever held. His words about his great-grandmother were surprising to me and remarkable, esp. coming from the king himself. But his general warning about 'looking the other way' seems very relevant today & seems to have struck a cord with many. Esp. as we discovered last week that anti-semitism is rampant in one of the Dutch political parties.
In the Volkskrant - not usually the biggest fans of the monarchy - Sheila Sitalsing called it 'perhaps the bravest words of his public life'. Algemeen Dagblad and the Telegraaf called the speech 'historic'. Zihni Özdil of VN and the NRC calls the speech brave and unique.
Although his great-grandmother's silence should be seen in the context of that day and age -she was hardly alone in her silence - it does feel right to look back now and say it was not the right thing to do. I am sure some of the survivors & their children will have greatly appreciated the King's words. Also in The Hague there is much praise for the King. The leader of the Labour party (in opposition), even calls the speech 'breath taking'.
In his speech the King referred to remarks by the late Jules Schelvis, one of the last Dutch survivors of Sobibor. SBS interviewed his daughter Marianne who was touched by the King's words and she called it 'a very beautiful and wonderful tribute to my father'. The King's remarks in his speech came as a surprise to her.
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It is noteworthy that the king not only speeched at the Remembrance at the Dam (which he normally doesn't) but also that he included the following phrase:
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"Medemensen voelden zich in de steek gelaten, onvoldoende gehoord, onvoldoende gesteund, al was het maar met woorden. Ook vanuit Londen, ook door mijn overgrootmoeder, toch standvastig en fel in haar verzet. Het is iets dat me niet loslaat."
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Translated: "Fellow men felt let down, insufficiently hear, insufficiently supported, if only with words. Also from London, also by my great-grandmother, yet steadfast and fierce in her resistance. It's something I cant let go of."
This phrase most likely refers to queen Wilhelmina hardly ever touching upon the persecution of the Jews in WWII and never explicitly condemning it - while doing regular radio speeches during the war.
This comes less than 2 months after the public apologies by the king in Indonesia. I guess him being a historian plays off and apparently the current PM also let's him do so (unlike his mother who also wanted to offer apologies but wasn't allowed to during her state visit to Indonesia). |
Thank you for bringing that interesting comment to attention and explaining its meaning (and Marengo's explanation of the similar comments in the thread for the Indonesia state visit was very helpful as well). So in your judgment, the initiative for these groundbreaking statements began with the king rather than the government?
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