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09-17-2019, 09:10 AM
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As always the Dutch pomp and majesty were out in full force today for Prinsjesdag!
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09-17-2019, 10:02 AM
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What a load of crap in the DM. The King and Queen held their heads bowed down for most of the day???? They were only greeting a regimental standard, good heavens.
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09-17-2019, 01:07 PM
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09-17-2019, 02:02 PM
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What a nice video. Great to see other carriages besides the royal ones.
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09-17-2019, 05:20 PM
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I always love the carriage used for Prinsjesdag and the pomp and circumstance in general! I think the Dutch RF are one of the only other RFs who have quite a pompous ceremony for the opening of parliament aside from the British RF.
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09-24-2019, 05:49 PM
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What a load of crap in the DM. The King and Queen held their heads bowed down for most of the day???? They were only greeting a regimental standard, good heavens.
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In Scotland that paper is known as the Daily Lie.
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06-09-2020, 06:56 AM
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Prinsjesdag 2013-2020
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I wonder if they will arrive by car or with a carriage because that would attract a crowd. For the same reason I wonder if they will have a ‘balcony scene’.
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06-09-2020, 07:05 AM
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Is the Grote Kerk a redundant church now ?
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06-09-2020, 09:55 AM
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With all the protests of Black Lives Matter we will never see the Golden State Coach again, in original state that is.
There were longer protests against the depicting of "Homage of the Colonies" on one of the side-panels, depicting men of colour: http://www.geschiedenisbeleven.nl/wp...p-de-koets.jpg
When the restoration of the Coach started, it was said that it would be restored in original splendour without the intention to change this panel. The Coach is already longer subject of discussion.
When the restoration does not change this, I see no other than a museal destination for the carriage.
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06-09-2020, 10:00 AM
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Is the Grote Kerk a redundant church now ?
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Yes, like many big churches in inner cities, it has become redundant.
For the simple fact that the inner cities have changed into shopping and office areas with lesser population than it once had. So the parishes often had difficulties to maintain such enormous monuments with a relatively small number of parishioners.
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06-09-2020, 01:03 PM
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What a pity for such a historic building like the Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam.
It will be interesting to see how Prinsjesdag will look inside the Grote Kerk.
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06-09-2020, 01:50 PM
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What a pity for such a historic building like the Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam.
It will be interesting to see how Prinsjesdag will look inside the Grote Kerk.
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The Inner Court complex will be restored the coming years. They were already thinking to have the Address from the Throne to be held in the Great- or Saint James' Church before all this Corona came up.
In the past it has been organized in the former ballroom of Stadtholder Prince Willem V and in Brussels when Belgium was still part of the Kingdom.
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07-15-2020, 01:35 AM
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I'm really wondering what happened in 1904 that it was canceled. Death of Queen Emma?
Edit: no that was 1934.
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07-15-2020, 01:49 AM
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I think the article is not correct, in 1904 it was the first Prinsjesdag that was held in the Hall of Knights, which just had been renovated. Before that the speech was read in the second chamber (former ballroom) of the Inner Court.
During the second World War there were obviously no festivities either.
In 1974 the celebration was toned down due to the fact that at the same time there was a hostage situation going on in the Hague, where members of the Japanese red army had stormed the French embassy & had taken the ambassador and some others hostage.
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07-15-2020, 01:55 AM
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indeed in other articles 1904 is mentioned as '"the first time the speech is held outside the 'ridderzaal' (hall of knights) since 1904"
but apparently that's not quite correct either
https://www.staten-generaal.nl/histo...is_prinsjesdag
"In 2004 it was not the 101st time that the Throne Speech was read in the Ridderzaal. In 1907, when a large international conference was held in the Ridderzaal, and in 1911, when the Queen was unable to attend, the Speech from the Throne was not read in the Ridderzaal. During the German occupation, from 1940-1945, the States General were unable to meet and Queen Wilhelmina stayed in London."
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07-15-2020, 02:07 AM
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Its not that its the first time no festivities were held. Its that its the first time since 1904 that the public is not included.
1940-45 there were no events at all for the public to attend.
In 1974 they were toned down, but the public was still involved.
This is the first time that the event will be held, but that the public is excluded.
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07-20-2020, 06:52 AM
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Its not that its the first time no festivities were held. Its that its the first time since 1904 that the public is not included.
1940-45 there were no events at all for the public to attend.
In 1974 they were toned down, but the public was still involved.
This is the first time that the event will be held, but that the public is excluded.
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In 1974 there was a terrorist hostage issue at the Indonesian Embassy in The Hague and Juliana didn´t want to use the Golden Coach so came by car
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