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Prinsjesdag 2013-2018

I'd completely forgotten about Prinsjesdag this year as it's been quite a hectic few days for me lately, so it was nice to log on and see all the photos!
 
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HereditaryPrincess said:
I'd completely forgotten about Prinsjesdag this year as it's been quite a hectic few days for me lately, so it was nice to log on and see all the photos! I wonder why no carriages were used this year - I missed seeing the wonderful grand carriages as we have done in previous years.
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There were four gala carriages, several mounted detachements of the cavalry, of the Royal Marechaussee, of the National Police, there were music bands and detachements on foot from various regiments and from the Marine Corps, the Navy and the Air Force. With other words: a completely normal Prinsjesdag.

Picture: https://regio90.nl/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/glazen-koets-koningin-maxima-prinsjesdag-2018.jpg
 
An Ard Ri said:
Maybe I missed it but what coach did Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien travel in?

Thankfully the Dutch still use pomp and majesty for these ceremonies if it was Belgium they'd all arrive in a people carrier!
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Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien travelled in a Gala Berline, which was ordered by The Prince of Orange in 1836. The manufacturer was the firm Pearce & Co in London. This is one of the several Gala Berlines in the Royal Mews. Their specific one was changed into an all-glass around berline for the wedding of Princess Margriet and Pieter van Vollenhoven (1967). Since then it is named: Gala Glass Berline.

One of the traditional Gala Berlines: picture

The Gala Glass Berline: picture

There are also several Coupé type of Berlines. This picture shows that a Gala Coupé is just a two-seater version of the Gala Berline. It has glass in front: picture

Alexandra gravin Van Zuylen van Nijevelt - den Beer Poortugael (the Grandmastress of the King) in her carriage, which was one of the Gala Coupé type of Berlines: picture

 
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wartenberg7 said:
That would be a great shame, and I don´t quite understand why as the english golden coach is more than twice as old...?!
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The golden coach is used every year whereas the British golden coach has only seen the light of day four times in 118 years as it is only used for coronations.
 
 
Information about Prinsjesdag 17 September 2019


"Every third Tuesday of September it is Prinsjesdag, the festive opening of the new working year of the States General (the First and Second Chamber).

King Willem-Alexander leaves at 1 p.m. from Noordeinde Palace to the Ridderzaal, accompanied by Queen Máxima, Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien. Around 2 p.m. the King departs again along the same route with the Glass Carriage to Noordeinde Palace, after which he and the Royal Company appear on the balcony of Noordeinde Palace."


https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/actue...informatie-over-prinsjesdag-17-september-2019
 
Always a highlight for avid Royal Watchers.
 
Princess Laurentien wears a powder pink dress of Hardies, The Hague, with the pink stones that Q. Maxima usually wears.

The Queen in a Burgundy dress of Taminiau with long hair and a weird piece of cloth on top. Perhaps to make the ball gown more suitable for the day. She wears a new combination of the Ruby devant corsage & brooch.

The King kept his beard. According to the NOS the Royal Mint and the Postal services will not change the design of coins or stamps and will wait to see if it will last.

IMHO the diction of the King has improved quite a bit in comparison with his first speeches from the throne.
 
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As always the Dutch pomp and majesty were out in full force today for Prinsjesdag!
 
iceflower said:
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Here are some first photos:



** rex gallery ** gettyimages gallery **


** ppe gallery ** ppe gallery 2 ** ppe gallery 3 ** ppe gallery 4 **


** anp gallery ** anp gallery 2 ** anp gallery 3 ** anp gallery 4 **


** dm article: All that glitters! Queen Maxima of The Netherlands dons a dazzling maroon cape as she joins..**
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What a load of crap in the DM. The King and Queen held their heads bowed down for most of the day???? They were only greeting a regimental standard, good heavens.
 
I always love the carriage used for Prinsjesdag and the pomp and circumstance in general! I think the Dutch RF are one of the only other RFs who have quite a pompous ceremony for the opening of parliament aside from the British RF.
 
The video did not catch indoors proceedings.

The selected parliamentarians forming today's "Commission for the In- and Extrance" are awaiting the arrival of the royal cortège: https://www.tweedekamer.nl/sites/de.../atoms/images/zjm_3317-1920.jpg?itok=Jfc5cR7E

The dresscode is jacquet for gentlemen and "dressed" for ladies: https://nos.nl/data/image/2019/08/30/573635/2048x1152.jpg

The King's Speech:
https://editorial01.shutterstock.co...herlands-shutterstock-editorial-10416203s.jpg

The chairman: "Long live the King!" (All: Hurrah! Hurrah! Hurrah!) :
https://editorial01.shutterstock.co...erlands-shutterstock-editorial-10416203ad.jpg

Back on the palace:
https://editorial01.shutterstock.co...erlands-shutterstock-editorial-10416188al.jpg

The King has authorized the Minister of Finances to offer the Note on the State's Finances 2019 and the State Budget 2020. The Minister contraseigns the Royal Command before it is sealed in an orange ribbon and placed in a special suitcase:
https://cmweb.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/48748251051_51d8ccd1fb_z.jpg

The Minister on his way to the Second Chamber to offer the Budget 2019:
https://imgz.rgcdn.nl/e1d0f8c8715a4...-Kamer-foto-ANP.jpg?v=s2wfYaRyxK737xB9tUkFOg2

This is factually what all the day and all the fuss is about, the financial backing for the policy outlined in the King's Speech.
https://www.ornet.nl/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/miljoenennota2020_300.jpg
 
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Duc_et_Pair said:
What a load of crap in the DM. The King and Queen held their heads bowed down for most of the day???? They were only greeting a regimental standard, good heavens.
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In Scotland that paper is known as the Daily Lie.
 
Prinsjesdag 2013-2020

iceflower said:
Due to the current virus situation the next Prinsjesdag on September 15, 2020, will not take place at the Ridderzaal as usual but at the Grote Kerk (Grote of Sint-Jacobskerk) in Den Haag.







** eerstekamer: Verenigde Vergadering Prinsjesdag verplaatst naar Grote Kerk ** translation **
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I wonder if they will arrive by car or with a carriage because that would attract a crowd. For the same reason I wonder if they will have a ‘balcony scene’.
 
Is the Grote Kerk a redundant church now ?
 
With all the protests of Black Lives Matter we will never see the Golden State Coach again, in original state that is.


There were longer protests against the depicting of "Homage of the Colonies" on one of the side-panels, depicting men of colour: http://www.geschiedenisbeleven.nl/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/11.09.20.Gouden-Koets-op-de-koets.jpg


When the restoration of the Coach started, it was said that it would be restored in original splendour without the intention to change this panel. The Coach is already longer subject of discussion.


When the restoration does not change this, I see no other than a museal destination for the carriage.
 
An Ard Ri said:
Is the Grote Kerk a redundant church now ?
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Yes, like many big churches in inner cities, it has become redundant.
For the simple fact that the inner cities have changed into shopping and office areas with lesser population than it once had. So the parishes often had difficulties to maintain such enormous monuments with a relatively small number of parishioners.
 
What a pity for such a historic building like the Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam.

It will be interesting to see how Prinsjesdag will look inside the Grote Kerk.
 
An Ard Ri said:
What a pity for such a historic building like the Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam.

It will be interesting to see how Prinsjesdag will look inside the Grote Kerk.
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The Inner Court complex will be restored the coming years. They were already thinking to have the Address from the Throne to be held in the Great- or Saint James' Church before all this Corona came up.

In the past it has been organized in the former ballroom of Stadtholder Prince Willem V and in Brussels when Belgium was still part of the Kingdom.
 
I'm really wondering what happened in 1904 that it was canceled. Death of Queen Emma?
Edit: no that was 1934.
 
I think the article is not correct, in 1904 it was the first Prinsjesdag that was held in the Hall of Knights, which just had been renovated. Before that the speech was read in the second chamber (former ballroom) of the Inner Court.

During the second World War there were obviously no festivities either.

In 1974 the celebration was toned down due to the fact that at the same time there was a hostage situation going on in the Hague, where members of the Japanese red army had stormed the French embassy & had taken the ambassador and some others hostage.
 
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indeed in other articles 1904 is mentioned as '"the first time the speech is held outside the 'ridderzaal' (hall of knights) since 1904"
but apparently that's not quite correct either
https://www.staten-generaal.nl/historische_gebeurtenis/geschiedenis_prinsjesdag

"In 2004 it was not the 101st time that the Throne Speech was read in the Ridderzaal. In 1907, when a large international conference was held in the Ridderzaal, and in 1911, when the Queen was unable to attend, the Speech from the Throne was not read in the Ridderzaal. During the German occupation, from 1940-1945, the States General were unable to meet and Queen Wilhelmina stayed in London."
 
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Its not that its the first time no festivities were held. Its that its the first time since 1904 that the public is not included.

1940-45 there were no events at all for the public to attend.

In 1974 they were toned down, but the public was still involved.

This is the first time that the event will be held, but that the public is excluded.
 
Countessmeout said:
Its not that its the first time no festivities were held. Its that its the first time since 1904 that the public is not included.

1940-45 there were no events at all for the public to attend.

In 1974 they were toned down, but the public was still involved.

This is the first time that the event will be held, but that the public is excluded.
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In 1974 there was a terrorist hostage issue at the Indonesian Embassy in The Hague and Juliana didn´t want to use the Golden Coach so came by car
 
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