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Old 04-20-2019, 11:33 AM
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The Second Chamber of the States-General (the lower House of Parliament) urges the Government to review the automatism of exchanging Orders during State Visits.

Reason: the Sultan of Brunei has been made a Knight Grand-Cross in the Order of the Netherlands' Lion. In the meantime the Sultan has endorsed Sharia Law in Brunei, which means the chopping of hands, the stoning of gay men and women, the caning of men and women blamed for adultery, etc.

The Second Chamber finds it "utmost undesirable" that the Sultan has a Dutch Order while his policy contradicts everything the Dutch stand for: human rights, individual freedom, tolerance, etc.

The Chancellery of the Netherlands' Orders has answered that it is only possible to revoke an Order when the bearer has been convicted with at minimum one year of imprisonment. So according the current statutes of the various Netherlands' Orders, it is not possible to take action against the Sultan.

Some parties have made an appeal to the King and Princess Beatrix to send their Brunei Orders back to the Sultan. The exchange of Orders during State Visits happens under responsibility of the Cabinet. So it are not the King or Princess Beatrix to decide on this. That is up to the Cabinet. The Second Chamber asks the Cabinet to review the pure automatism of handing out an Order without even reviewing any merit to reveive such.

The three Dutch State Orders (under ministerial responsibility) :
- de Militaire Willems-Orde
- de Orde van de Nederlandsche Leeuw
- de Orde van Oranje-Nassau

The two Dutch royal Orders (to the King's own pleasure) :
- Orde in de Gouden Leeuw van het Huis Nassau
- Huisorde van Oranje
Wouldn't ending the automatism of orders worsen the problem? To grant an order on merit would surely be perceived as an endorsement of the bearer, even more than an order automatically gained.
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Old 04-20-2019, 12:31 PM
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Wouldn't ending the automatism of orders worsen the problem? To grant an order on merit would surely be perceived as an endorsement of the bearer, even more than an order automatically gained.
That is true. Maybe the policy will become: no any exchange of Orders at all. With a probable exception for the King, as head of the Royal House and the royal dynasty, handing out royal (not state) Orders to members of befriended royal families.

But this would have caused problems as well in the Brunei case: with a royal (and not a state) Order also there would be an appeal on the King to revoke the Order given to the Sultan.

So maybe we will end up with only exchanging Orders to royal families from countries having comparable societies with respect for human rights and freedoms (European and Japanese monarchies).

Even an Order to a member of the Jordanian royal family has been criticized: in 2018 Prince Zeid bin Ra'ad Zeid al-Hussein of Jordan, then the outgoing UN High Commissioner for Human Rights was given a Dutch Order on nomination of the Minister of Foreign Affairs. The Prince however was embroiled in a conflict about his apparently inadequate handling of accusations of abuse by French troops during an UN mission. The minister pushed this Order for the Prince, to the chagrin of the Second Chamber. (Orders require no parliamentary debate or approval).
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Today the Volkskrant claims that in June there was a rehearsal for a funeral of a member of the royal house. There was no direct reason to do so. There was a 2-day meeting in Noordeinde palace with 100 invitees. The planning received the name CP100. The first day there was a general meeting in the ballroom of the palace. The second day the attendees split up in smaller working groups.

The article notes that Princess Margriet and Prof Pieter van Vollenhoven have stated earlier that they preferred to be burried in Apeldoorn and not in Delft.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-ach...aart~b440ce8c/
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Old 07-12-2019, 07:34 AM
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Today the Volkskrant claims that in June there was a rehearsal for a funeral of a member of the royal house. There was no direct reason to do so. There was a 2-day meeting in Noordeinde palace with 100 invitees. The planning received the name CP100. The first day there was a general meeting in the ballroom of the palace. The second day the attendees split up in smaller working groups.

The article notes that Princess Margriet and Prof Pieter van Vollenhoven have stated earlier that they preferred to be burried in Apeldoorn and not in Delft.

https://www.volkskrant.nl/nieuws-ach...aart~b440ce8c/

I understand the long route from The Hague to Delft is kept.
My counsel would be: scrap it. Until Queen Wilhelmina in 1962, the space between The Hague and Delft was open. The royal procession advanced through fields and pastures green. Now you see a ceremonial royal procession advancing alongside suburban extensions, under viaducts, over tram rails, etc. (See picture: https://www.haagsefotos.nl/wp-conten...v-claus-01.jpg )



My suggestion would be: a lying-in-state at the Old Church in Delft (instead of at Noordeinde Palace). The royal hearse can be a car with a motorcade.


On the funeral day the royal procession then could be from the Old Church to the New Church, all the way in beautiful and pittoresque Delft.
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King Wilem Alexander with his family and Princess Beatrix met with Padmanabh Singh, a member of the former ruling family of Jaipur.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO3qTOcX...g&name=900x900
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It's nice to see that WA and Maxima are introducing their children to other royal families, even if no longer ruling. It seems the two families are fairly close as Maxima has her arm around one of Padmanabh Singh's children.
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It's nice to see that WA and Maxima are introducing their children to other royal families, even if no longer ruling. It seems the two families are fairly close as Maxima has her arm around one of Padmanabh Singh's children.
Oh yes,both families know eachother for years,they are close friends!!
Years ago the entire family celebrated new years eve in India.Beatrix
was still queen,and it was the first family trip with Máxima,WA's girlfriend at the time.
The eldest son of the family is "Pancho".He stands behind Alexia.
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King Wilem Alexander with his family and Princess Beatrix met with Padmanabh Singh, a member of the former ruling family of Jaipur.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EO3qTOcX...g&name=900x900
It looks like an old pic. Amalia is taller than her mother now, and WA has beard nowadays.
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Today, new photos of King Willem-Alexander, Queen Máxima, Princess Margriet and Prof. Pieter van Vollenhoven have been posted on the Royal House website. The photos were made last month inRoyal Palace in Amsterdam


https://www.instagram.com/p/B8ODtXMn-ef/


https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/foto-e...llem-alexander

https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/foto-e...oningin-maxima

https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/foto-e...inses-margriet

https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/foto-e...an-vollenhoven
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Lovely pictures and very happy to see princess Margriet and Mr. van Vollenhove included.
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Princess Beatrix reportedly refused to pose for new downloadable portraits on the website: she thought the current portraits on the website (made in 2018) were perfectly fine.

Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien will have new portraits soon.

Princess Margriet and Professor Van Vollenhoven were asked because their portraits on the website were a bit older.

The King and Queen Máxima probably were asked because there was no portrait on the webside with a bearded King.
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