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Old 12-28-2016, 09:24 AM
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It is in tip-top condition, as may be expected. The interior is not Trumpian but functional. Negatives for the plane are the limited range (for an example: the King can not travel to the Caribbean part of the kingdom without stops in-between) and it is -in comparison to alternatives- thirsty in kerosine and therefore has an unnecessary big carbon footprint.

Another reason is that KLM Royal Dutch Airlines, which operates this plane, ends the use of all Fokker airplanes in their fleet. This means that they no longer train pilots to fly in Fokker airplanes and that their technical service will loose know-how and experience in the maintenance of Fokkers. All this attributed to the decision to search for a successor of the PH-KBX which will possibly be registered as PH-KWA.
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Old 04-04-2017, 03:13 PM
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The new main airplane for the King and other members of the Cabinet will be a new Boeing 737 Business Jet. Purchase price: 89 million Euro (appr. 95 million US Dollar).

An important reason for this choice is that KLM/Royal Dutch Airlines flies with Boeings, so the maintenance and operation can be done by KLM with plenty of qualified Dutch crews and controlled maintenance staff, a demand of the AIVD (General Intelligence- and Security Agency).

The interior will have Delft's Blue accents. The exterior is not yet known. Besides this plane, the fleet for the transportation of King and Cabinet also has a few Gulfstreams and helicopters.

Source: Gloednieuwe Boeing van 89 miljoen euro voor kabinet en koning - Binnenland - Voor nieuws, achtergronden en columns
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Old 04-05-2017, 10:51 AM
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The new Boeing 737 Business Jet is more expensive than 89 million Euro: the current Fokker 70 has been sold. It is not made public what the revenue was, but the sum of 89 million Euro is with the net sum with the revenue from the sale of the old plane.

The former planes were registered as PH-PBX (prinses Beatrix), PH-KBX (koningin Beatrix). The expectation was that the new plane would be PH-KWA (koning Willem-Alexander) as that combination was free, but chosen is for PH-GOV, standing for Government.

In the Netherlands Constitution, the Government comprises of the King and the ministers. The King has priority on use of the plane but almost 85% of the flights is for the ministers, while nagging about the costs of the plane is always contributed towards the King and "his plane".

So it is wise to stress in the public framing: it is the plane of the Government, and as head of state and menber of Government, the King uses the plane as well. To avoid PH-KWA ("Willem-Alexander's plane") and to go for PH-GOV ("the Government's plane") the framing lies less on the person of the King and more on the Government as a whole.
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Old 04-12-2017, 10:34 AM
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Today it was announced that government aircraft PH-KBX is sold to the Australian Alliance Airlines.
Regeringsvliegtuig PH-KBX verkocht | De Oranjes
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Old 04-16-2017, 03:46 AM
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I think the Fokker 70 is very suited indeed as a VIP jet to fly between Melbourne, Brisbane, Sydney, etc. For normal use (as a regular passenger airplane) the costs are too high (the plane is quite thirsty for kerosine it seems).
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Old 06-26-2017, 09:22 AM
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Today it was announced that government aircraft PH-KBX is sold to the Australian Alliance Airlines.
Regeringsvliegtuig PH-KBX verkocht | De Oranjes
HM the King aquired his pilot license/brevet for the Boeing 737 earlyer this month as was announced by the Government Information Service.
As is already known the government opted for a 737 BBJ as the successor of the previous Government aircraft.Great!
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:20 PM
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The new Government aircraft, the Boeing 737 BBJ,seen here in the Czech Republic...after the paintjob...:)...
Great piece of work!

https://www.jetphotos.com/photo/8952983

Courtesy Jetphotos / Robert Kolek
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Old 05-15-2018, 03:57 PM
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Unexpected colour combination. The design of the livery does not immediately convince me. I like it that they do not surrender to English language and just state Koninkrijk der Nederlanden (Kingdom of the Netherlands).
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Unexpected is one word for it... .

Is the back of the plane black or a very dark blue?
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Old 05-16-2018, 02:38 PM
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Unexpected is one word for it... .

Is the back of the plane black or a very dark blue?
Dark blue...I think the colour scheme is distinguised,with just a touch of Orange on the wing tips.
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Old 05-16-2018, 03:17 PM
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I thought it was black, but red-white and blue with a touch of Orange makes sense.
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Old 04-02-2019, 03:19 AM
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The new Government aircraft,PH-GOV undertook test flights yesterday from Woensdrecht airbase over NL and Germany.The aircraft will start service in May.

See post 67
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Old 07-06-2019, 05:16 AM
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Take a look aboard the new plane which will be used by the King and Queen. It is ready for service:

https://youtu.be/9zNj0AG5I_A
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Here are a few photos of the new luxury Dutch royal plane complete with a shower!

https://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?...19%20Vliegtuig
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Old 07-06-2019, 09:56 AM
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Here are a few photos of the new luxury Dutch royal plane complete with a shower!

https://www.ppe-agency.com/show.php?...19%20Vliegtuig
Restored carriages, splendid palaces, spic-and-span plane, etc. they certainly want to maintain a standard.
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Today's news is that the Gouden Koets (Golden Carriage) will not be returned to regular use at least for one more year. Restauration is expected to be done by late Spring next year and will be exhibited at the Amsterdam Museum from June to November. This includes the Third Tuesday of September, the only day in the year the carriage would normally be used to transport the king and queen from Noordeinde Palace to the Ridderzaal.

Over the last few years, one panel of the carriage has been the focus of much debate and it seems that this could be the definitive answer - it won't be used again but will be displayed in a museum (for now the Amsterdam Musem) instead. Formally, no final decision has been taken but to me it doesn't make sense to use it for a exposition in the period that it would normally be needed. So, I'm pretty confident that this was the end of it as the primary used carriage of the royal family. It has been retired but it's just not official yet...
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Old 09-08-2020, 04:00 PM
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This was always the most likely outcome. Now Black Pete has been changed for the most part, the obvious new target for protestors would be the carriage. The royal family should not be in the middle of such a controversy so I think this is the right decision for the moment & they are now ahead of the story. Just imagine the nightmare if the carriage -and as a consequence the king- would become the center of an extremely polarizing debate such as happened with Black Pete this last decade!

Of course the decision at present will be controversial to some people as well. The two extreme right parties and their supporters will see it as another sign of Dutch culture/ traditions supposedly being snatched away by lefties/liberals/immigrants/etc.. And I suppose it will be a matter of time before the protestors on the other side of the political spectrum will want to see the carriage removed from the museum too. Still, at this early stage & in the absence of a heated public debate, perhaps most people will shrug their shoulders about it all.

A pity because the carriage has been used for over a century and although the glass coach is IMHO prettier it has the disadvantage that the ceiling is too low for the king and queen, who seem to be hitting the roof when they are in it.
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Old 09-09-2020, 12:45 AM
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Why not simply remove the paintings and ride with empty gold panels à la Denmark?

The Golden State Carriage is so rich of ormentation, compared with this sparse Danish carriage, that it still will be an overwhelming appearance in splendid new gold, even without the painted side panels.

Netherlands: https://nos.nl/data/image/2015/08/25/186645/xxl.jpg

Denmark: https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016...2088815833.jpg
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Well, I am glad that they will not use it. Horrible carriage, way over the top. I much prefer the beautiful glass carriage they have been using the last few years.
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Well, I am glad that they will not use it. Horrible carriage, way over the top. I much prefer the beautiful glass carriage they have been using the last few years.

Tastes differ. I have the idea that smooth door panels without paintings, like the other carriages will please the eye. Not necessarily gold, make the panels in deep shiny oxblood red or deep shiny blue.

Look at the picture: above the door panels the Glass State Carriage is as ornamental as the Golden State Carriage but it is balanced by the calm blue panels:


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