Crash: 7 Victims & Perpetrator Dead, 10 Wounded at Queen's Day 2009

[ghost_night554]

Originally Posted by lucien

Yes,as did HM,Princess Margriet and Pieter van Vollenhoven.
They have visited 6 of the wounded this morning and this afternoon.Number 8 is still in critical
condition on a intensive care unit and can not be visited yet just as one other of the wounded.
The RF had especially invited family and loved ones to come to the hospitals.

HM visited wounded in the Isala Clinic in Zwolle,and talked to their families,Alexander and Máxima
visited wounded in the hospitals of the city of Tilburg,Utrecht and Amersfoort and talked with their
loved ones.Princess Margiet and Pieter van Vollenhoven visited the wounded at the Rijnstate hospital in Arnhem.


Het Koninklijk Huis

Thanks for the update Lucien, so nice of all the members of the RF going to visit with the victims and their families.

[kbear]

my sincere regrets for the loss of life and injuries to the oridinary citzens of Holland. There can be no precedent for this event eyeryone in every security sector can do their best but the idiot determined will do as fools do..... The public figures must either get on with their jobs or live in a gilded cage and be seen when permited to be seen and heard when it is deemed needful or get out and about and get on with their duties. Please let them get on with their duties otherwise many in history have died in vain. Again my condolences.

[lucien]

A sea of flowers at the Canadian War Memorial opposite the Needle.
The public is requested to put their flowers there as it would hamper traffic to put them at the Needle across the street.

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Prince Constantijn,who was in Amsterdam this evening to hand-out the prizes of the World Press Photo 2008,
(see his thread),said that Queensday should not be changed in any which way and should thus continue as we
are used to for decades.

HRH,and Princess Laurentien, were interviewed by NOS TV,they said all of the family have seen the tragedy
happen from the bus,and all are coping in their own way to get to terms.

Former PM Ruud Lubbers,Member of the Council of State,stated today that the Monarch has to remain visible.
Furthermore he stated that a change on the Throne isn't an issue right now and won't be for the next couple of years.

Ruud Lubbers is known to be close to HM also.

[Vanesa]

My condoleances to all the victims of this fool crminal , who ruined what it must have been a great celebration for all Dutch people. My heart is with the Royal Family too. It must be very hard to cope with a so hard drama, that hit a pacific, good people as Dutch one is.Vanesa.

[Lakshmi]

I only hope no more people will be dead.

[sgl]

Originally Posted by lucien

HRH,and Princess Laurentien, were interviewed by NOS TV,they said all of the family have seen the tragedy
happen from the bus,and all are coping in their own way to get to terms.

Former PM Ruud Lubbers,Member of the Council of State,stated today that the Monarch has to remain visible.
Furthermore he stated that a change on the Throne isn't an issue right now and won't be for the next couple of years.

Ruud Lubbers is known to be close to HM also.

I do hope that the royal family members are able to eventually come to terms with this. I hope that they are able to find peace, whether it be through counseling or talking this over with each other. Events like this are traumatic, and everyone deals with them in a different way. I wish them peace.

[QUEENECE29]

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[biboquinhas]

I just think that the royal family should have step out of the bus and be along with the victims and give their support to them in the street near them, be more close to their people and not only wave on a bus. On a moment like this they should not only fell sorry, but also make something with "their own hands".That would make a lot of difference. Of course we have security problems but there were many many police officers there that could have escolt some members of the Royal family to the tragic place just for a while, that would make a big difference!

[Her_Majesty]

Are you serious?
You mean they should have stepped out of the bus directly after the accident?
No one knew if there was a bomb in the car in that moment.
There was chaos on the street.
People were in shock..
Furthermore: What should they have done? People need first help by doctors and not by Royals.

[susan alicia]

they could not have done that, too dangerous. Besides it is not up to them I think at that moment, they are in the hands of the security service.

But I do find their visiting hospitals nothing out of the extra ordinary, just what you would expect them to do. Lots of posters are gushing about it but it would be really strange if they stayed away.

[Paty]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

I just think that the royal family should have step out of the bus and be along with the victims and give their support to them in the street near them, be more close to their people and not only wave on a bus.

Sure...

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty

Are you serious?
People need first help by doctors .....

I'm quite sure she knows everything about that....

Prince Constantijn handed out prizes last night for the World Press Photo 2008.
This is what he had to say on the tragic events in Apeldoorn.
I haver posted it in his thread,but feel it also belongs here,as it expresses the
feelings of not only a first hand witness,but also one of the people targeted:

http://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/content.jsp?objectid=29122

[anirac]

Originally Posted by biboquinhas

I just think that the royal family should have step out of the bus and be along with the victims and give their support to them in the street near them, be more close to their people and not only wave on a bus. On a moment like this they should not only fell sorry, but also make something with "their own hands".That would make a lot of difference. Of course we have security problems but there were many many police officers there that could have escolt some members of the Royal family to the tragic place just for a while, that would make a big difference!

Could you tell me how they should do this? Apart from that that they were in the hands of there security (like susan alicia said) and that there was chaos all around them (like Her_Majesty said), they also were totally shocked, don't know what to do. Do you assume that they had to go out of the bus, obviously shaking and thrilling as they were, to eliminate their emotions and to speak to the people who need medical help. They are human being from flesh and blood. They cannot switch their feeling on and off. They also needed to take a deep breath.
Seriously I don't understand you...

[biboquinhas]

Well because they are human being from flesh and blood I think that they maybe could have step out of the bus, of course that was a big security problem but they could have done it, that is just me thinking what they could have done... Of course I know that medical services where more needed at that time, but to me that image of them waving and them what happen to those people that were there just to see them again waving...I cannot explain better sorry!

[JessRulz]

When did they wave after the accident occured? Not once after the car smashed into the needle did a wave come from any member of the royal family. They were, like the rest of the spectators, in terrible shock. The only people which needed to be with the victims were the paramedics, and then later their families in hospital, not the royal family walking amongst the injured.

[leene]

Sorry Biboquinhas, I really do not understand your comments. People where dying on the street!!! They were resuscitating some of the wounded. What could they have done???? In emergencies like this only medical people are needed.
You are absolutely not realistic.
I was watching "koninginnedag" on the T.V I saw it happening, It was unbelievable, and be reassured that the royals did not wave after this happened.

[BeatrixFan]

Apart from anything else it would have been 100% foolish for the Royal Family to have got out of the bus and wandered amongst the crowds. What if the driver wasn't the only one? What if that was a distraction and someone had a gun? It just wouldn't have been safe for Queen Beatrix and her family, or the spectators.

[Idriel]

My deepest sympathies to the Dutch people.

Thank you Lucien for keeping this thread updated.

I must say, more shocking than any pictures or videos of the event was the Queen's speech.
I have never seen such a look of aggravation and sheer misery on the face of such a notoriously strong and fearless person. I don't even speak dutch but her sadness was overwhelming and I found the video very hard to watch.

It was truly, deeply heartbreaking and anyone (cough*Biboquinhas*cough) who question the deep shock and genuine concern the Royal family felt should watch it in a loop.

[TLLK]

Truly I cannot see how having the Royal Family stepping out to "comfort" seriously injured people would have been beneficial. Their security details would have never permitted this to happen as it could endanger their lives and the public's safety. The paramedics who were were assisting the injured would have had their own actions distracted or impaired by the addition of other people on the scene.

IMO removing the Royal Family was the correct thing to do in that time.

[Paty]

The President of Estonia sent a message of condolence to the Queen Beatrix

President Ilves expressed his sympathies to the Queen of the Netherlands