Abdication of Queen Beatrix & Inauguration of Willem-Alexander: Suggestions & Musings

[Ephram]

Members of other Royal Houses who are not reigning heads of states will also be invited. Hope to see many of them turn up.

Information abdication - Het Koninklijk Huis

[Artemisia]

Originally Posted by Ephram

Members of other Royal Houses who are not reigning heads of states will also be invited. Hope to see many of them turn up.
Information abdication - Het Koninklijk Huis

That's an interesting wording; it's almost as if the foreign crowned Heads of State are effectively banned from attending (won't receive an invitation).

[lucien]

Some more info and groundplans:

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[GracieGiraffe]

I'd like to send a little card and gift. We have a fabulous Hallmark nearby. I'm hoping that I can find an "On your Royal Investiture Ceremony," but what if all I can find is "On your Coronation?" Would it be gauche to send the latter?

Anyone know if there's a Precious Moments figurine of a guy with a crown? I have enough Gold Crown points to get one.

[cdm]

Originally Posted by TLLK

I remember reading somewhere that Juliana personally phoned each of the reigning monarchs to tell them of her intentions to abdicate. If this is the case, I believe that Beatrix would do the same.

Has anybody read something about official reactions of the other royal houses?
I rembember that sometimes they congratulate each other officially with for instance an anniversary of reign.

[Her_Majesty]

I wondered: will Beatrix continue to attend official events like Prinsjesdag, incoming State visits and so on?

[tommy100]

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty

I wondered: will Beatrix continue to attend official events like Prinsjesdag, incoming State visits and so on?

i've been wondering the same, just how and many and what engagements/duties will Princess Beatrix carry out. Personally I think it best she doesn't attend such events as state visits, Prinsjesdag etc for the first year or two so as to allow the new King and Queen to settle in. And to be honest whats the point in abdicating just to then carry on as before?

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Her_Majesty

I wondered: will Beatrix continue to attend official events like Prinsjesdag, incoming State visits and so on?

What did her mother and father do after the 1980 abdication? I do think the new King & Queen should be allowed time to establish themselves, especially on state occassions, without the ex monarch hovering around.

Originally Posted by lucien

No,there's no consorts mantle,Máxima isn't inaugurated ,only her hubby..

And to some other posters

THIS thread is on Willem Alexander and Máxima,not aunty lillibeth and her offspring...next time...This is The Netherlands,not the islands off our coast...grin...

Since it has been a very long time since The Netherlands had a Queen Consort I looked at what previous Dutch Queen Consorts wore on the big day. Anna wore an ermine trimmed gown and a robe that was also ermine trimmed. Sophie wore an ermine trimmed gown as well.
Siince it has been so very long since there was a Queen Consort I think Maxima has a pretty free reign as to what she will wear on April 30th.

[camelot23ca]

Where will Princess Beatrix be placed in gatherings involving members of various royal families? Weddings, christenings, funerals, etc?

[Artemisia]

I think that largely remains to be seen. Abdication is not something that is all that common anywhere else but the Netherlands so I don't think there are any strict protocol rules. My guess (not supported by any evidence ) is Beatrix's ranking will be below that of the reigning monarchs but above or equal to that of heirs apparent and presumptive.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by Artemisia

That's an interesting wording; it's almost as if the foreign crowned Heads of State are effectively banned from attending (won't receive an invitation).

As a rule Reigning Monarchs are never invited to Enthronement ceremonies.Only on the islands off our coast...grin..

Saw a question further down on Prinsjesdag,No,Princess Beatrix will never attend Prinsjesdag again.After her Abdication she is "dead" .
Her mother used to watch the procession from the window at the Cabinet of the Queen close to the Hall of Knights.She was often seen there with the grandchildren and daughter Christina.

As for other future Royal gatherings,the then Princess Beatrix will almost most certain have a place that honours her,ie,among her "former collegues" just as was the case with then Princess Juliana abroad who always was 'the guest of honour" and thus in the middle,amidst the Monarchs.

She might be in attendance during some incoming ( Royal-) State Visits but apart from that will have no part in official functions per sé any longer.None.

Originally Posted by NGalitzine

Since it has been a very long time since The Netherlands had a Queen Consort I looked at what previous Dutch Queen Consorts wore on the big day. Anna wore an ermine trimmed gown and a robe that was also ermine trimmed. Sophie wore an ermine trimmed gown as well.
Siince it has been so very long since there was a Queen Consort I think Maxima has a pretty free reign as to what she will wear on April 30th.

The then Queen Máxima will wear a long robe & diademe,but not a ermine trimmed mantle or anything of the kind,no,only HM The King will.

[Marengo]

Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien will stay in Brussels after the abdication. The RVD said that they will assist the new royal couple 'within the limits of their carreer'.Prine Constantijn is working for Euro commissioner Neelie Kroes, while Laurentien is a communication advisor. The prince and princess have to provide a living for themselves and do not receive any money from the government. Because of this, the prince already said before that it would be difficult to stop working.

Constantijn en Laurentien blijven in Brussel - Nieuws | Altijd op de hoogte van het laatste nieuws met Telegraaf.nl [Troonsafstand]

[Zonk]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien will stay in Brussels after the abdication. The RVD said that they will assist the new royal couple 'within the limits of their carreer'. Prince Constantijn is working for Euro commissioner Neelie Kroes, while Laurentien is a communication advisor. The prince and princess have to provide a living for themselves and do not receive any money from the government. Because of this, the prince already said before that it would be difficult to stop working.

Constantijn en Laurentien blijven in Brussel - Nieuws | Altijd op de hoogte van het laatste nieuws met Telegraaf.nl [Troonsafstand]

Thanks for the info.

I was also wondering how the abdication would affect Constantijn and Laurentien. Until Amalia, Alexia and Ariane come of age someone basically needs to fill the void (i.e.royal patronages, events, tours, etc.). Wilhem and Maxima provided great support to Beatrix in regards to royal activties, and since they are essentially taking over, and Beatrix stepping to the side, I wondered who would fill the void.

[camelot23ca]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Prince Constantijn and Princess Laurentien will stay in Brussels after the abdication. The RVD said that they will assist the new royal couple 'within the limits of their carreer'.Prince Constantijn is working for Euro commissioner Neelie Kroes, while Laurentien is a communication advisor. The prince and princess have to provide a living for themselves and do not receive any money from the government. Because of this, the prince already said before that it would be difficult to stop working.

Constantijn en Laurentien blijven in Brussel - Nieuws | Altijd op de hoogte van het laatste nieuws met Telegraaf.nl [Troonsafstand]

I always thought the Dutch royals had very significant private wealth... not that well off people don't also choose to work, but my impression, (incorrect, apparently), was that Beatrix's sons didn't need their jobs to financially support themselves.

In any case, I'm not surprised Constantijn and Laurentien won't be uprooting their lives come April.

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by lucien

As a rule Reigning Monarchs are never invited to Enthronement ceremonies.Only on the islands off our coast...grin..

It is not the tradition in the UK (aka those islands off your coast) either. The "monarchs" who attended in 1953 were not monarchs of independent nations but of British protected states like Tonga and Zanzibar.

[lucien]

Originally Posted by camelot23ca

I always thought the Dutch royals had very significant private wealth... not that well off people don't also choose to work, but my impression, (incorrect, apparently), was that Beatrix's sons didn't need their jobs to financially support themselves.

In any case, I'm not surprised Constantijn and Laurentien won't be uprooting their lives come April.

They indeed do not need the money they get from work,but making yourself usefull and deploy ones talents is far more important to them...And an example...!

Even tho Constantijn and Laurentien will continue to live in Brussels....for the time being...They will be at the disposal of the King if he needs them just like all other members of the Royal Family,including Princess Beatrix,just as is the case now.And maybe gradually take up more of a supporting role....They don't need to move to The Netherlands for that,Brussels isn't that far.

Some more info on the National Investiture Committee and added info on the Royal House website:

Abdication and investiture in Amsterdam | News item | Government.nl

Pressemitteilungen - Het Koninklijk Huis


News - Het Koninklijk Huis

[An Ard Ri]

Interieur of the Nieuwe Kerk

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PPE Agency

[Marengo]

Originally Posted by camelot23ca

I always thought the Dutch royals had very significant private wealth... not that well off people don't also choose to work, but my impression, (incorrect, apparently), was that Beatrix's sons didn't need their jobs to financially support themselves.

In any case, I'm not surprised Constantijn and Laurentien won't be uprooting their lives come April.

I doubt that finances are the real reason. It seems that the prince and the princess enjoy their professional carreers. And besides, the new king and queen can also ask 'support' from Princess Beatrix, Princess Margriet and Prof. Pieter. They won't be retiring from public life. However, in 10 years from now things may have changed.

[GracieGiraffe]

Yes, yes, this is all such interesting information.

But if I were Dutch, this would be the burning question: Do we get the day off work and school?????

[Ansgar]

What are the Fashion AND Hat-Designer of the dutch Royal Family and what are the favorits for the coronation?!