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They made a donation that helped practically, while at the same time promoted the cause, well done. double hit.
The BRF don’t have to bestir themselves to get reporters to their events. It’s all done for them. The Royal Rota is there to bring publicity to their causes and write accompanying often cloying articles about clothing etc. Part of the ‘you scratch our back we’ll scratch yours’ arrangement Harry spoke of in the interview clips.
If they weren’t there then the RF would be in exactly the same position as the Sussexes are in a new country and having to begin again. They want to donate to causes and make a difference through Archewell. How do you suggest they do that without any publicity? And at least some of what they have done singly and together was publicised on the charities and causes’ own Twitter Pages first as well.
They could just give donations privately, and ask for no publicity when they make a charity donation....
I am always happy to read others thoughts am grateful for this. community ... I think though and this is only me of course, that I see you location is the USA it is hard to understand Monarchy, it's history and the rules around those members of the RF [look at the embarrassment for Princess Alexandra]They may not be evil, in it's true sense of the word in the Oxford Dictionary but they are completed out of line Harry has ruined his own chances of life with a family, your comments are your view these are mine
What was the embarrassment for Princess Alexandra?
All Foundations, including BRF ones, need publicity. And that includes Archewell. Charities are exactly the same. Publicity is their lifeblood. Any donation by a person in the public eye brings in more donations. That’s the point of it.
I am always happy to read others thoughts am grateful for this. community ... I think though and this is only me of course, that I see you location is the USA it is hard to understand Monarchy, it's history and the rules around those members of the RF [look at the embarrassment for Princess Alexandra]They may not be evil, in it's true sense of the word in the Oxford Dictionary but they are completed out of line Harry has ruined his own chances of life with a family, your comments are your view these are mine
What was the embarrassment for Princess Alexandra?
There are quite a few Princess Alexandras. I take it that this one is P ALexandra.. lady Ogilvy....
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2004-dec-31-me-passings31-story.htmlIn the 1970s, he was involved in the so-called Lonrho Affair, in which the mining and finance conglomerate was accused of violating sanctions against the white-minority government of Rhodesia (now Zimbabwe).
An official report concluded that he did not do enough to stop the firm’s leader, Roland Rowland, from violating the sanctions. The office of the director of public prosecutions later exonerated Ogilvy.
Traditionally yes, it's done by a lot of members of BRF. In the last 40 or so years Meghan was the only working royal who didn't do it, so people were expecting the Sussexes to sacrifice that 10 minutes to show off their new baby as they're leaving the hospital.I thought the controversy was they were expected to have one? I am curious if this is something that is recommended...or not?
I think Harry and Meghan had a few things to do on the day of Archie’s birth besides informing the Press of what was happening. The British public couldn’t have cared less about the time of labour or when the birth occurred. It was the Press who got their noses out of joint and made the fuss about it. As a matter of fact there was aYouGov survey done before the birth in which the British public agreed with Meghan and Harry that a hospital steps photo op wasn’t necessary.
Where was the Comms team at BP who worked for the Sussexes, while the labour was going on and then the birth? I know of no other senior royal who was/is expected to inform the media themselves all about their child’s birth.
And Harry did come out at Windsor and speak to the waiting Press afterwards. I put the link to that up here. The couple then showed Archie off at Windsor Castle a couple of days later and spoke to a reporter about the baby and how they felt. There was also a photo released at that time of Archie in Meghan’s arms with the Queen, Prince Philip and Doria with the couple. So I’d say that the British public and media got more than enough from the Sussex family and its newest member.
Then why is Meghan now mentioning that "no one asked them" for a picture, as if it were seemingly an issue?
It was an issue, with the British Press, notably the tabloids, who made a fuss.
You really made me laugh Of course no one expects Meghan and Harry to themselves write the statement and place the easel in front of BP, this is all done by the Palace officials. But they are (well, were) responsible for how the team operates and I doubt the statement was delayed without their knowledge and approval - the plan surrounding Archie's birth was agreed days if not weeks before the day.I think Harry and Meghan had a few things to do on the day of Archie’s birth besides informing the Press of what was happening. The British public couldn’t have cared less about the time of labour or when the birth occurred. It was the Press who got their noses out of joint and made the fuss about it. As a matter of fact there was aYouGov survey done before the birth in which the British public agreed with Meghan and Harry that a hospital steps photo op wasn’t necessary.
Where was the Comms team at BP who worked for the Sussexes, while the labour was going on and then the birth? I know of no other senior royal who was/is expected to inform the media themselves all about their child’s birth.
And Harry did come out at Windsor and speak to the waiting Press afterwards. I put the BBC link to that up here. The couple then showed Archie off at Windsor Castle a couple of days later and spoke to a reporter about the baby and how they felt. There was also a photo released at that time of Archie in Meghan’s arms and the Queen, Prince Philip and Doria with the couple. So I’d say that the British public and media got more than enough from the Sussex family and its newest member.
As quite often after that interview with Oprah one is left wondering, if there was a word of truth coming out of their mouths. Statement after statement they were digging their own hole, twisting facts on issues so easily proven untrue - like the wedding in their garden, Meghan being locked in the house, Catherine making Meghan cry, Meghan not having her passport, Archie not being HRH because of his skin colour, connection between having the title and having security and even the events surrounding Archie's birth. If they wanted to pose for the photos while leaving hospital, the media would be there, without a question and the Palace would not say no - it's too good of an occasion to miss.
Traditionally yes, it's done by a lot of members of BRF. In the last 40 or so years Meghan was the only working royal who didn't do it, so people were expecting the Sussexes to sacrifice that 10 minutes to show off their new baby as they're leaving the hospital.
Harry had seen his sister-in-law do it three times, Meghan for sure saw Catherine and William with Louis. They knew the what and how, but decided not to. All of the information surrounding the birth were kept strictly private (as it was their right, of course) - including not informing the press about their chosen hospital until they were in Frogmore Cottage with Archie and Doria.
There was a number of confusing things that went on that day that dampened the celebratory mood in the UK - first they put up the statement that Meghan went into labor (even though she has already given birth... ) and then waited for quite a while, and announced with a second statement the birth of then baby Sussex, now Archie, born hours before the first announcement of labor. There was also an issue with the second statement confirming birth, as it has apparently been sent, but never reach a lot of news outlets.
So a few lies, misconceptions and organizational failures really dampened the celebration and general good will in people and press. If they didn't want to show the baby - that's fine, don't do it, but then don't claim you "weren't asked" to do that almost two years later. Especially when we have the statement from BP: "Their Royal Highnesses have taken a personal decision to keep the plans around the arrival of their baby private. The Duke and Duchess look forward to sharing the exciting news with everyone once they have had an opportunity to celebrate privately as a new family."
As quite often after that interview with Oprah one is left wondering, if there was a word of truth coming out of their mouths. Statement after statement they were digging their own hole, twisting facts on issues so easily proven untrue - like the wedding in their garden, Meghan being locked in the house, Catherine making Meghan cry, Meghan not having her passport, Archie not being HRH because of his skin colour, connection between having the title and having security and even the events surrounding Archie's birth. If they wanted to pose for the photos while leaving hospital, the media would be there, without a question and the Palace would not say no - it's too good of an occasion to miss.
Any photos of Harry (or William for that matter) riding a bike on public roads away from royal estates or besides photo opportunities for their causes? Along London streets for example? That was what Harry was referring to, just getting on his bike with or without his son whenever he felt/feels like it. I never saw Diana or Charles riding bikes in London with their children in their leisure time.
Some of the young European royals in the Netherlands and in Belgium do ride bikes in their time off, as do their parents. You see some who ride to school sometimes along public roads.
I did say ‘off royal estates’ and ‘on public roads’. I would guess, though I don’t know for sure, that the photos you’ve linked were taken at Highgrove on the estate there for a photo op featuring the young family, same for the Scilly Isles black and white shot, and the black and white one was obviously at Balmoral.
Other royals have done it on roads where there are clearly other cyclists.
And Harry doesn’t live in L.A. Plus,he’d hardly be whipping out a photo of himself and Archie on a bike during an interview. When Archie gets bigger we’ll probably see them on bikes together.