The Duke & Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 3: March - April 2021


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Some people have been suggesting that though they weren't paid directly for it that they got paid for things like filming in their home (location fee) and of Archie as well as possibly a producers fee or distribution fee somewhere along the line. I'm sure Oprah and CBS got the lions share but they won't be empty handed from it.

Or money was given to Archewell.

If anyone was going to get a location fee it would be Oprah's BFF Gayle King , as it was in her garden that the 4 hrs of "bombshell" drivel were filmed . I'm sure however that she provided the location out of the goodness of her journalistic heart for no fee . I believe that only footage involving Archie would have been shot at the Sussex mansion .
Still wondering when the rest of the footage will emerge ? Possibly when H & M find they need more headline's since the BRF are refusing to play their game .

Actually the next morning on CBS Gayle King specifically said that it was NOT her garden that was used and that she did not own a home in LA.
 
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Well, don't know about that, if Meghan could be the next Queen, I think she would be very happy

I dont tink so, not now.. I think that she now hates the UK and would only be queen if she could live in the US...

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A regnant Queen Meghan would be ousted in no time, just like several other British monarchs who overstepped the mark! ?
well there's absolutel no way she could be a queen regnant...
 
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I'm not getting any of it. Both Harry and William, and, for that matter, James Middleton, have spoken publicly about their own mental health issues. The Duchess of Kent spent time in hospital over 40 years ago for "nervous exhaustion" or whatever term was used at the time. We don't know exactly what's happened, but we're not living in the days when any sort of mental illness was swept under the carpet.

I doubt that The Queen and DoE, or Charles, would all of a sudden find the time or develop the emotional vocabulary to be able to sit down and have the lengthy heart to heart that Harry and Meghan, (and Oprah), would see as support. William and Kate would probably be more comfortable with that sort of talk but likely only with Harry, and even then I think William is the sort of person who would want to move fairly quickly to the “ok, what are your next steps?” part of the conversation. People can’t always give you exactly the kind of support you want and different people prioritize different kinds of support. Charles may be genuinely bewildered that Harry’s accused him of being unsupportive re: Meghan’s mental health because he knows that Harry only had to open his mouth and there would have been a lineup of leading physicians and mental health specialists at the door and it would have gone without saying that he, Charles, would have picked up the bill for all of it. William may be furious because he asked Harry three or four times if he and Meghan had called a doctor like they’d spoken about and Harry gave him the impression it was dealt with.
 
And the hits just keep on coming. Harry and Meghan can just sit back in their chicken coop and go buk, buk, buk (thinking about a buk (book) deal) while the ammunition is lobbed back and forth between other parties that somehow got a bit of limelight from the "now viral" interview. :D

Good example of this from one of our mainstream news channels FoxNews.

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainme...le-king-meghan-markle-prince-harry-not-racist



Good. Not the biggest fan of Piers Morgan, but IA with him here.

And he had the right to his opinion. Meghan has yet to provide any ACTUAL proof of her claims. And her word doesn’t mean much IMO. Meghan’s truth and the truth aren’t the same thing.
 
It's still possible that the interview will come to Netflix. I wouldn't discount that happening. Netflix picks up programming from other networks all the time.
It's how I was able to watch "Grey's Anatomy" from season 1, episode 1 through 16 seasons.

Many British royal programs and documentaries are on there to watch to our hearts content. The Windsors, documentaries on Diana, British royal castles etc. The Crown is just one that was actually a Netflix original. Imagine Archie 15 years from now able to sit down and search the archives anywhere at all and especially on Netflix and see his parents give this interview.

Wonder how long it'll take Netflix to get it? :D




As she'd only be a Queen Consort, I still think she'd have a problem with the rules and regulations and the protocols that she had as a Princess of the UK and The Duchess of Sussex. The title would just change. Not the job.

If she were to become Queen (impossible as she's not in the line of succession at all), I'd say, "there goes the monarchy!" :lol:

I admit that I don't know the ins and outs of the Netflix business, but wouldn't Netflix have to pay CBS and not Harry and Meghan in that case, since it was not their content.
 
Yes, if the interview is streaming anywhere, it will be on Paramount + (which is owned by ViacomCBS, who also owns CBS Television) unless Netflix purchased the streaming rights.

Personally, going back a few comments ago, I think the Sussexes thought that they only had to give up the money from the Queen (which likely covered their staff, which they wouldn't need anymore, so they didn't care).

I think Harry in particular thought he would get taxpayer coverage for their security, and that Charles would continue funding their personal lives as he had been. I don't think he understood Charles' financial support as an exchange for being full-time working royals.

The funny part is: I think one of the reasons that the Queen/Charles wanted to slow them down and not make anything public was because they knew security was a massive issue, and as soon as it all became public, Canada would balk at paying the tab. Which they did. And rightly so. I remember the very first draft of the Sussex Royal website had a particular language (Internationally Protected Persons) which meant the Sussex team knew a little bit about security abroad, but not actually enough to understand the funding concerns of it.

Also, I don't think Harry has ever understood that Charles viewed the Duchy as heavily tied to Charles' royal role and duties. He sees it as just free money that Charles can spend how he likes. It's kind of sad- Harry in some ways likely views the monarchy as it was hundreds of years ago, and not what it was modernized to today.
 
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Count your blessings! :flowers:

but it si completely impossible.. could not happen. I meant that if Charles had been able somehow to oust William and make Harry future King, I still dont think it would make Meghan (or H) happy because they are alienated from the UK... and Harry does not want to be King (at least according to himself).
but I think that if they had been willing to stay, Meg and H woudl have wanted equal status and money with William and Harry, not to take second place... Even so, I think they are so darned selfish that they would still say they wanted to be out of royal life for much of the year, and to be free to make extra money living abroad..

Yes, if the interview is streaming anywhere, it will be on Paramount + (which is owned by ViamcomCBS, who also owns CBS Television) unless Netflix purchased the streaming rights.

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The funny part is: I think one of the reasons that the Queen/Charles wanted to slow them down and not make anything public was because they knew security was a massive issue, and as soon as it all became public, Canada would balk at paying the tab. Which they did. And rightly so. I remember the very first draft of the Sussex Royal website had a particular language (Internationally Protected Persons) which meant the Sussex team knew a little bit about security abroad, but not actually enough to understand the funding concerns of it.

Also, I don't think Harry has ever understood that Charles viewed the Duchy as heavily tied to Charles' royal role and duties. He sees it as just free money that Charles can spend how he likes. It's kind of sad- Harry in some ways likely views the monarchy as it was hundreds of years ago, and not what it was modernized to today.

I agree about the Duchy. when this issue came up previously, some people seemed to feel that Charles could spend the money just as he pleased.. and I felt that he regarded the Duchy money as tied to his working life.. that it was there to help the tenants of the Duchy, to help his Charites, adn to help members of his family in their royal work...
Technically yes when the Duchy became the property of the POW/DOC, it was simply there to provide the heir to the throne with money.. but that was a long time ago.. and the public and Charles himself do not see it in that laisser faire light any more.. He sees it as money that he can give to his sons for their royal work.. but not money that he just gives out - because Harry wants it and isn't doing any royal work....
 
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I don't think Harry would want to be King. He's said so himself a couple of times, said "no one wants to be King" in 2017 and says he now considers his father and brother "trapped".

I think what they want is the perks, Dutchy money, their own court and status of being King or at least being in the direct line without the often tedious work.

If they were King and Queen they wouldn't be able to leave for several months of the year, couldn't speak out on the issues they wanted, would get criticised A LOT for things that aren't necessarily their fault and all the rest of it.
 
I admit that I don't know the ins and outs of the Netflix business, but wouldn't Netflix have to pay CBS and not Harry and Meghan in that case, since it was not their content.

Exactly. Netflix would negotiate with CBS but have something in their favor which is a signed contract by Harry and Meghan to give them the first right to acquire the content for streaming. Right now you can stream the interview on Paramount. With some programming on Netflix, they can't make it available for a certain time after the season airs such as Outlander (and I have to correct myself here. That airs on Starz and not Showtime). Looking it up, it states "Netflix in the US gets new seasons of Outlander two years after their finale airs on Starz in the US. That means that Netflix US won't get season five until May 2022" So, Netflix may not get the interview for a while. IF ever. The Netflix contract may be all encompassing to even include first rights to anything produced by Archewell. It's a multimillion dollar contract that probably covers a lot of time going into the future.

I don't know any of this as a fact. It's what my train of thought has led me to. None of us know what the Netflix contract has in its wherefore and whys that the legal eagles on both sides have scoured over with a fine tooth comb. Only that there is a contract and its a whopper. ?
 
I don't think Harry would want to be King. He's said so himself a couple of times, said "no one wants to be King" in 2017 and says he now considers his father and brother "trapped".

I think what they want is the perks, Dutchy money, their own court and status of being King or at least being in the direct line without the often tedious work.

If they were King and Queen they wouldn't be able to leave for several months of the year, couldn't speak out on the issues they wanted, would get criticised A LOT for things that aren't necessarily their fault and all the rest of it.

True but I feelt that they have become so entitled that they dont like William being future King and ahead of them.
 
If anyone really is "trapped" right now, it seems to be that its Harry and Meghan, themselves. They're trapped between a rock and a hard place between expectations and reality. Life doesn't always go the way that one envisions and hopes and plans for it to go.

None of us ever expected to be trapped in a global pandemic and it's affected each and every one of us to some degree. A year and some into the pandemic, we've all had to adapt and conform and do things differently and that's what we did. We faced the reality of a global pandemic. (Well... most of us did anyways).
 
Also, I don't think Harry has ever understood that Charles viewed the Duchy as heavily tied to Charles' royal role and duties. He sees it as just free money that Charles can spend how he likes.

BUT...the Duchy of Cornwall becomes William's, as soon as Charles succeeds.
So, Charles can't simply hand Harry the funds without shortchanging William.

Harry should understand this, but apparently he doesn't.
 
BUT...the Duchy of Cornwall becomes William's, as soon as Charles succeeds.
So, Charles can't simply hand Harry the funds without shortchanging William.

Harry should understand this, but apparently he doesn't.

Come to think of it, didn't Harry want his own court in Windsor? The move to establish Harry's office and staff within Buckingham Palace, under the Queen's jurisdiction, was preparation for when it was Charles' time to support and finance Harry and Meghan's roles from the Duchy of Lancaster as the Queen does now for all her other family members outside of the family of the Duke of Cornwall.

Every penny spent by Charles out of the Duchy of Cornwall is accounted for just that we don't see an itemized list of his personal expenditures. One thing I do know is that Charles rewrote the book on the role and responsibility of the Duke of Cornwall. It's something that I truly very much admire about the man.
 
When that time comes, I don't imagine William will be feeling too generous towards Harry and Meghan, since they've repeatedly thrown him and Kate under the bus for no reason. Meghan didn't have to bring up the crying story, and she could have said "That's not what happened - Kate didn't cry" without going into how Kate said something mean and made Meghan cry. Neither of them had to tell Gayle King that Harry had spoken with William, or that Harry thought that conversation was "unproductive," and they certainly didn't have to authorize Gayle to repeat that on tv. (I don't believe for a second that Gayle did that without their ok - she knows how her bread is buttered.)
 
BUT...the Duchy of Cornwall becomes William's, as soon as Charles succeeds.
So, Charles can't simply hand Harry the funds without shortchanging William.

Harry should understand this, but apparently he doesn't.

Charles does actually have to account for how Duchy money is spent to some extent and it's not an inexhaustible resource.

"Struggling tenant farmer's rent increased to pay for 16 bathroom mansion and Hollywood lifestyle for Prince Harry" doesn't make a good headline.

True but I feelt that they have become so entitled that they dont like William being future King and ahead of them.

Yes. From their own words it sounds like they one the one hand really hate the life and restrictions of "The Institution" but on the other they want all the perks, titles and money that come with being high up the restricted ladder.

What they really seem to want is an unlimited supply of money, perks, 100% press and public adoration and to be able to say and do what they like. Which is what a lot of people would like but it's an impossible dream.
 
I often suspected, well before January 2020, that Harry and Meghan wanted to somehow be Prince and Princess of the Commonwealth, which they imagined as traveling around the world, being celebrated at each stop, and on equal status to William & Kate. I recall even double-checking at some point that Charles was already voted as the next Head of the Commonwealth.

When Meghan's veil had the flowers of the Commonwealth I recall thinking that day "very pretty, lovely gesture, but she and Harry do know that their status comes from the U.K., right?" Harry is not a Prince or Duke of the Commonwealth.

When Harry mentioned wanting to move his family to South Africa temporarily I recall being startled, because the Commonwealth isn't the Royal Family's vacation playground. The Queen, as the head, works for the Commonwealth. The only work that any other royal does for the Commonwealth is on behalf of the Queen, in service to the Commonwealth, at the request of the Queen. Personally, I think the last thing that the Queen would want is to create any type of appearance of a Royal setting up a court, even temporarily, in a Commonwealth country.

And when they did their appearance at Canadian Embassy (24 hours before their website went live, I think) I recall that day thinking "strange, it feels like they are trying to establish some sort of special relationship with Canada, but Canada is part of the Commonwealth, that doesn't fit."
 
So on BBC they spoke about talking to an investigator who admitted he was hired by the Sun to spy on Meghan and family. Not that this is at all surprising.
 
So on BBC they spoke about talking to an investigator who admitted he was hired by the Sun to spy on Meghan and family. Not that this is at all surprising.

No it's not surprising unfortunately. Especially considering this is the paper who's journalists admitted and went to prison for hacking Kate, William and Harry's (as well as dozens of others) phones hundreds of times.

I assume more than one media outlet hired people to keep watch on Meghan and her family and dig into everything the second the first reports of her being Harry's girlfriend surfaced.
 
Hacking, spying, everything to do for a juicy headline. That's the hallmark of certain papers, the Sun being prominent among them.


Unfortunately, I'd be surprised if someone is surprised. How low can you go is a question they can't answer because they keep on discovering new depths.
 
BUT...the Duchy of Cornwall becomes William's, as soon as Charles succeeds.
So, Charles can't simply hand Harry the funds without shortchanging William.

Harry should understand this, but apparently he doesn't.

Yes, Charles has a responsibility to William and to George and to George’s firstborn and on down the line. And most of all I would say he has a responsibility to the many employees and tenants whose livelihoods depend on a well functioning Duchy of Cornwall. Charles has more than enough money to provide his sons and all of his grandchildren with a very high standard of living but it’s not like he just sold his company to Google and now has hundreds of millions of dollars with no restraints on how to spend it all.

William has been involved in meetings regarding The Duchy of Cornwall for years now and I’m sure Charles has done his best to show William that it will never be HIS Duchy - his job will be to manage it well for all the people who will depend on him, including future generations of his family. I’ve thought before that Harry would have benefited from some of the training William had access to. The same people who taught William about the Duchy’s financial portfolio could have educated Harry about financial issues, as well. Who knows, maybe they tried.
 
From the BBC news website it seems like he did an in depth version of a Private Investigator search, which is legal except for her social security number.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56444635

The Sun's publisher said it requested legitimate research and instructed Mr Hanks he must act lawfully.

BBC News has seen the so-called "comprehensive report on Meghan and her family" which the investigator, also known as Danno Hanks, passed to The Sun. It included her phone number, addresses and social security number as well as information on her family members.

In the US, licensed private investigators are allowed full access to databases of personal information for some permitted reasons such as court reports. But accessing this additional level of detail for journalistic purposes is unlawful.

Mr Hanks said: "Pretty much everything I found out they could find out themselves using legal means - with the exception of the social security numbers.

"When you have that information… it's the key to the kingdom."

Whilst there is no evidence it happened in this instance, social security numbers in particular could potentially be used to further other intrusive investigations.
 
Hacking, spying, everything to do for a juicy headline. That's the hallmark of certain papers, the Sun being prominent among them.


Unfortunately, I'd be surprised if someone is surprised. How low can you go is a question they can't answer because they keep on discovering new depths.

I just consulted my crystal ball (fresh out of the shop too!) and it has told me to relay the message that if Meghan thought the press to be mean, nasty, vile and all the other things that she's experienced since meeting up with Harry, she ain't seen nothing yet.

The press is going to be treating these two people worse than every before with no holds barred. I hope Harry and Meghan have a good team of lawyers on retainer as they're going to be able to "prosecute" left and right and up and down and front and center. If she thought filing a complaint against Piers Morgan for voicing his disbelief in her statements was a major step, there's an avalanche about ready to descend on Montecito.
 
Yes, Charles has a responsibility to William and to George and to George’s firstborn and on down the line. And most of all I would say he has a responsibility to the many employees and tenants whose livelihoods depend on a well functioning Duchy of Cornwall. Charles has more than enough money to provide his sons and all of his grandchildren with a very high standard of living but it’s not like he just sold his company to Google and now has hundreds of millions of dollars with no restraints on how to spend it all.

William has been involved in meetings regarding The Duchy of Cornwall for years now and I’m sure Charles has done his best to show William that it will never be HIS Duchy - his job will be to manage it well for all the people who will depend on him, including future generations of his family. I’ve thought before that Harry would have benefited from some of the training William had access to. The same people who taught William about the Duchy’s financial portfolio could have educated Harry about financial issues, as well. Who knows, maybe they tried.
Im sure that Harry beleives that Charles could/should have supplied him with a large allowance covering security from iether his private wealth or the DOC funds.. adn that when he becomes King, he will be even wealthier, and will be able to continue to fund him...
 
How do we find the posts?

I’m pretty sure we aren’t supposed to link these kinds of posts here and, to be honest, I don’t know what key words you’d use to search it. I saw it on an account I follow. I’ll PM you the link, though. I don’t use Tumblr but I hear it’s on there, too. Not sure about Twitter, FB, or any other than IG.
 
I just consulted my crystal ball (fresh out of the shop too!) and it has told me to relay the message that if Meghan thought the press to be mean, nasty, vile and all the other things that she's experienced since meeting up with Harry, she ain't seen nothing yet.

The press is going to be treating these two people worse than every before with no holds barred. I hope Harry and Meghan have a good team of lawyers on retainer as they're going to be able to "prosecute" left and right and up and down and front and center. If she thought filing a complaint against Piers Morgan for voicing his disbelief in her statements was a major step, there's an avalanche about ready to descend on Montecito.
Yes. UK and the RF's kind of agreement were their best chance for keeping some privacy. But they preferred to head off to the USA, famous for not having tabloids and only sprouting journalists on their best behavior?
 
Im sure that Harry beleives that Charles could/should have supplied him with a large allowance covering security from iether his private wealth or the DOC funds.. adn that when he becomes King, he will be even wealthier, and will be able to continue to fund him...
Which calls to question his judgment of what professional income is. Or should I say, it calls to question the good faith he put in his statement that they aimed for financial independence and professional income, knowing that most people didn't see tese things as being funded from the Bank of Dad and supplementing this vast income by working... when he felt like it...
 
Which calls to question his judgment of what professional income is. Or should I say, it calls to question the good faith he put in his statement that they aimed for financial independence and professional income, knowing that most people didn't see tese things as being funded from the Bank of Dad and supplementing this vast income by working... when he felt like it...

That’s the thing, though. He has zero idea of what professional income really means. I really think that, in his mind anyway, he thought as long as he kept himself and thereby the RF in the forefront of the news he was in some weird way “earning” an income and they should pay him for it. Almost like he was becoming a weird sort of publicity machine for the RF. And it could have gone either way...they pay up and meet his demands and the stories are positive and upbeat about charity works, fun stuff like the Cordon interview, little tidbits about Granny and the waffle maker, etc. Or, they refuse to pay up and scoff at his demands and we end up where we now are. Temper tantrums and anything they think they can do to stamp their feet and hold their breath until someone hands over the cash.
 
Lorie138 , thankyou for pointing out my error as to the location of the [ahmm] "interview"'. I should not have relied on early newspaper reports .
I am doubtful if it was in fact H & M's home, that they would have received a location fee as they would have invited Ms Winfrey to film there .
as to Ms King's recent "revelation's ", that although H had talked to both his Father & Brother , the talk's were "unproductive ". I would hazard an opinion that both other men thought that re-stablishing the lines of communication was productive .
 
but it si completely impossible.. could not happen. I meant that if Charles had been able somehow to oust William and make Harry future King, I still dont think it would make Meghan (or H) happy because they are alienated from the UK... and Harry does not want to be King (at least according to himself).

Venerable Lady,

I'm well aware that it would require the passage of an Act of Settlement-esque law by the British Parliament and the consent of all other commonwealth realms to put Meghan or Harry on the throne of the United Kingdom, and that is, of course, something that not ever is going to happen. ?

but I think that if they had been willing to stay, Meg and H woudl have wanted equal status and money with William and Harry, not to take second place... Even so, I think they are so darned selfish that they would still say they wanted to be out of royal life for much of the year, and to be free to make extra money living abroad..

Indeed. Meghan and Harry want everything on demand as well as on their whimsical terms. And the more one gives to the likes of them, the more discontented they will be.
 
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