The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 1: September-December 2020

[Lee-Z]

well, as it is a "huge study" and involved tallying in Instagram and Google searches, it most be true

do i sound cynical? that's because i am
(i honestly don't want to know what the most googled stuff is anyway)(we all know it's porn, right )

but if most popular means "most talked about" or "most mentioned" than i can actually believe that Meghan comes out on top, the still working royals were very low key this year due to covid, but Meghan is actively working on her brand, so it's not surprising she is mentioned most.

i think the Harry&Meghan threads here on TRF must be the most used this year as well? Don't know if there are statistics of that kind here?
(they probably are the most often closed due to bickering as well )

[Alison H]

Originally Posted by ACO

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=uxbndlbing

Toya Holness, press secretary for Archewell, told Newsweek: "We look forward to sharing more about Archewell's work in the weeks ahead but any suggestion that it is intended to rival the U.K. honors list is false.

Was it actually necessary to say this? With all due respect to Archewell, is a prize which it might give out going to "rival" the official Honours List, any more than, say, being named Slimmer of the Year by Weight Watchers or Best Supermarket of 2020 by Which? magazine. Nothing wrong with those awards and I'm sure that people are very glad to get them, but how are awards given out by Archewell supposed to rival the official national awards?

[Durham]

Originally Posted by Alison H

Was it actually necessary to say this? With all due respect to Archewell, is a prize which it might give out going to "rival" the official Honours List, any more than, say, being named Slimmer of the Year by Weight Watchers or Best Supermarket of 2020 by Which? magazine. Nothing wrong with those awards and I'm sure that people are very glad to get them, but how are awards given out by Archewell supposed to rival the official national awards?

Probably because the person making this statement understands next to nothing about the British honours system. We know it sounds ridiculous but they don't. Cultural ignorance I suppose.

It's all part of the farce of trying to replicate being British royalty in the USA.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Lee-Z

well, as it is a "huge study" and involved tallying in Instagram and Google searches, it most be true

do i sound cynical? that's because i am
(i honestly don't want to know what the most googled stuff is anyway)(we all know it's porn, right )

but if most popular means "most talked about" or "most mentioned" than i can actually believe that Meghan comes out on top, the still working royals were very low key this year due to covid, but Meghan is actively working on her brand, so it's not surprising she is mentioned most.

i think the Harry&Meghan threads here on TRF must be the most used this year as well? Don't know if there are statistics of that kind here?
(they probably are the most often closed due to bickering as well )

They are talked about because they are controversial,....

[Durham]

Originally Posted by adjovie

"Meghan Markle is the most popular royal worldwide, according to huge study."

https://twitter.com/womanandhome/sta...75339701448704

https://www.womanandhome.com/life/ro...to-huge-study/

…obviously

Putting aside the obvious absurdities about the methodology used by this study:

Why do some people so much want this to be actually true?
Why do some people obsess so much about this individual?
Why is it so important to them?
What does any of this have to do with the British people?

I am genuinely perplexed.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Durham

Putting aside the obvious absurdities about the methodology used by this study:

Why do some people so much want this to be actually true?
Why do some people obsess so much about this individual?
Why is it so important to them?
What does any of this have to do with the British people?

I am genuinely perplexed.

|I think people who beleive that Harry is a reincarnation of Diana and that Meghan was was badly treated by the RF, want to believe (and they may be right) that harry and Meg were right to go to the US and settle there and get invovled in the things they've become involved with.. and they want to beleive that its all going to be a big success for them.. that they'll be glamourous philanthropists and political influencers and that the RF in the UK will be gnashing their teeth with envy.....

[adjovie]

Originally Posted by Durham

Putting aside the obvious absurdities about the methodology used by this study:

Why do some people so much want this to be actually true?
Why do some people obsess so much about this individual?
Why is it so important to them?
What does any of this have to do with the British people?

I am genuinely perplexed.

Likewise…

About this: ["Meghan Markle is the most popular royal worldwide, according to huge study."]

Why do some people so much want this to be actually untrue?
Why do some people obsess so negatively about this individual?
Why is it so very important to them?
What does any of this (how she chooses to live her life) have to do with the British people?

I too am genuinely perplexed

[adjovie]

"After a Rollercoaster Year, Harry and Meghan Are On “Much Better” Terms With the Royal Family—And “Optimistic” About 202"
"…the Sussexes are ready to finally start building their post-royal legacy.

https://www.vanityfair.com/style/202...year-in-review

…………………………………………………


A well written (fair and balanced) piece on Harry and Meghan…

[Heavs]

I have no trouble believing she is one of the most talked about royals on SM and wherever else and also has a lot of name recognition. I don't believe that translates into "positive popularity" either in the UK or abroad or particular interest for that matter, beyond the latest controversy. Most aren't going to in depth think about them (or any other member of the family) in the way we do.

Nor does it necessarily mean that people will spend money on their brand or donate to their causes. Of course it might, but there's no guarantee.

It is hilarious though the way we can predict exactly when these titbits will be released. They seem more obsessed with the monarchy than when they were working royals who would have been in those photos.

I wonder if we'll get an alternative, alternative Christmas Message?

[Sandy345]

Originally Posted by adjovie

"Meghan Markle is the most popular royal worldwide, according to huge study."

https://twitter.com/womanandhome/sta...75339701448704

https://www.womanandhome.com/life/ro...to-huge-study/

…obviously

She is now Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

[adjovie]

Originally Posted by Sandy345

She is now Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

"Meghan Markle is the most popular royal worldwide, according to huge study."

I didn't write that (hence the quotation marks?)…I merely shared the title and links…

[Nico]

Originally Posted by Sandy345

She is now Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

Bah, we are still seeing some "Camilla Parker Bowles" or "Kate Middleton" around. I guess it's for the clickbait.
It's the least surprising data in all this hilarious poll.

[Durham]

Yes the poll is certainly hilarious. It's definitely at odds with the finding of yougov.

[adjovie]

Originally Posted by Osipi

The thing is that what seems trivial to one person can be a dire situation for another. Having privileges doesn't mean life is any easier. The poem "Richard Cory" by Edwin Arlington Robinson comes to mind.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poe...2/richard-cory

Right now both Harry and Meghan are striving to establish themselves as private individuals that were once part of a royal institution and are trying to be relevant in today's world. I do think this "awards" thing kind of goes along the lines of "The Duke of Edinburgh Award" and "The Diana Award" schemes and perhaps it will be a good thing but I don't see it gaining traction and attention as much as the already established ones do. I don't think Harry and Meghan have retained the drawing power they once held as working royals. I hope to be proven wrong though.

H&M already denied the awards rumor…but still very well said; I couldn't have said it better

[Durham]

Although I have a slightly different perspective I agree that this is an excellent contribution to an ongoing discussion.

It's exactly the sort of contribution that makes these forums so informative.

I'm not a fan of the our honours system as they currently stand but that's a subject for a different thread.

[AC21091968]

Originally Posted by adjovie

Likewise…

About this: ["Meghan Markle is the most popular royal worldwide, according to huge study."]

Why do some people so much want this to be actually untrue?
Why do some people obsess so negatively about this individual?
Why is it so very important to them?
What does any of this (how she chooses to live her life) have to do with the British people?

I too am genuinely perplexed

Because most people on this forum are very sceptical about certain sources, especially tabloids (Mail, Mirror, Express, Sun) or other opinion pieces . Even a poll conducted by certain newspaper publication is considered bias due to political or social leaning of the readers and columnists.

On the subject of Meghan choice of life and how it may impact the British public, she still mostly uses the Duchess of Sussex title. The name of Dukedom of Sussex is based on the historic county of Sussex, which now includes West Sussex and East Sussex. There are some resident of Sussex who do not want Harry and Meghan dragging their name of their county (in a negative light) into America, whether in politics or other controversial topics . And don't get me started on the Remembrance Day cemetery tribute

This could potentially explain why in a YouGov poll that 54% of UK adults who lived in rest of South (including West Sussex and East Sussex), that is outside London believed that Harry and Meghan should be stripped of their royal title. The other possible reason is that generally speaking, the South West and South East (outside London) are more supportive of the monarchy compare to other parts of the UK.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...ign=question_3

Just to repeat from earlier poster, the royal forum is not a fan page dedicated for one particular member.

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by Sandy345

She is now Meghan, Duchess of Sussex.

A bit of a correction here. She is The Duchess of Sussex. Meghan, Duchess of Sussex would be her title if she was divorced from Harry. We see the divorce styling of titles in both Diana, Princess of Wales and Sarah, Duchess of York. Sophie, still married to Edward is titled The Countess of Wessex.

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[Somebody]

Meghan herself mostly uses 'Meghan, the Duchess of Sussex' as far as I've seen.

[Curryong]

Originally Posted by Alison H

Was it actually necessary to say this? With all due respect to Archewell, is a prize which it might give out going to "rival" the official Honours List, any more than, say, being named Slimmer of the Year by Weight Watchers or Best Supermarket of 2020 by Which? magazine. Nothing wrong with those awards and I'm sure that people are very glad to get them, but how are awards given out by Archewell supposed to rival the official national awards?

The spokeswoman said this because--immediately the 'news' was announced that the right to patents along with many other products was lodged, the tabloid which broke the non-story immediately pounced and stated, quite falsely, that Meghan and Harry were about to launch an Award Show to rival the Honours System.

Other tabloids, of course, followed, along the same lines, along with talk shows etc either acting (fauxly) indignant on behalf of the Queen or being satirical.

As it was only lodged as a patent along with a 10001 other items the tabloids and the other outlets, must have known that this report was being slanted or they didn't bother to check. Both perhaps.

And it was to stop all these absurd stories in their tracks that this spokeswoman for the Sussexes acted. By that time the original 'story' in the Sun that Harry and Meghan were planning awards to rival the Royals was appearing in outlets in Australia, NZ and across the US.

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