The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and Family, News and Events 1: September-December 2020

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Osipi

Although this concept has been around for quite a long time, I've noticed it cropping up more and more as I venture around the internet these days. Kind of fits into what I was saying in an earlier post about "The Office of The Duke and Duchess of Sussex".

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BTW: not going to waste my money. I'm content with being Queen of Typos.

The wonderful thing is that the first certificate states: Lord [your name], hereafter referred to as 'The Lady'

[AC21091968]

Originally Posted by REAL COUNTESS

It seems the Title Duke and Duchess of Sussex is very important it take's top priority and then there is the money. Maybe they should try Harry and Meghan Mountbatten Windsor or Meghan and Harry Markle.???

There were suggestions (by some royal watchers or even Harry and Meghan's critics) on Prince and Princess Harry/Henry of Wales or The Prince or Princess Harry/Henry (when Charles becomes King) if the The Duke of Sussex title is removed by Parliament. In both of these cases, they are still technically style as HRH. I know that the possibility of removing Dukedom of Sussex is very little and it would open a can of worms.

[Osipi]

Then again, looking at "The Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex" and it's communications staff, it could be set up to specifically handle their "British" side of things such as their UK incentives and programs and organizations they've retained during all this time. Also, now they'd have their own "men in grey suits" courtiers to "handle" the palace for them. Of course the courtiers would look different. Tanned with shorts and looking to surf on their lunch breaks?

This keeps their Archewell Foundation as a separate entity away from the "British" and "royal" aspect of their lives. It is physically creating the "half in, half out" aura around them. Interesting concept eh?

[evolvingdoors]

Originally Posted by Osipi

Then again, looking at "The Office of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex" and it's communications staff, it could be set up to specifically handle their "British" side of things such as their UK incentives and programs and organizations they've retained during all this time. Also, now they'd have their own "men in grey suits" courtiers to "handle" the palace for them. Of course the courtiers would look different. Tanned with shorts and looking to surf on their lunch breaks?

This keeps their Archewell Foundation as a separate entity away from the "British" and "royal" aspect of their lives. It is physically creating the "half in, half out" aura around them. Interesting concept eh?

Why do they need three people to handle the UK side of things?
especially they reside in the US. they left someone in the UK whose job was to do PR and connectivity with their UK stuff.

Like you said earlier, many of us saw this coming, them trying to create their own court. It will fail, hack they can't even get enough votes on TIME person of the year nominations, they are somewhere around the 70% no.

As for the queen putting her foot down, I actually think this is a case of giving enough rope. And with the exception of their fans and royal watchers and those who dislike them, or some gossipers, no one really give a damn about them. the majority of people see them as nothing but airheads celebrities vying for their five minute of fame as they lecture away to the messes but do nothing note worthy for that fame.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by evolvingdoors

Why do they need three people to handle the UK side of things?
especially they reside in the US. they left someone in the UK whose job was to do PR and connectivity with their UK stuff.

Like you said earlier, many of us saw this coming, them trying to create their own court. It will fail, hack they can't even get enough votes on TIME person of the year nominations, they are somewhere around the 70% no.

As for the queen putting her foot down, I actually think this is a case of giving enough rope. And with the exception of their fans and royal watchers and those who dislike them, or some gossipers, no one really give a damn about them. the majority of people see them as nothing but airheads celebrities vying for their five minute of fame as they lecture away to the messes but do nothing note worthy for that fame.

I think teh queen and Charles would like them to come back even if they came back to a private life in the UK. Im sure they're a bit embarrassed by all the self promotion.. and the political talk. However Harry is their flesh and blood and they don't want to cut off with him completely. But I think the 1 year review was because the queen and C feared things would go pear shaped for them in the US.. and that they would eventually end up as you say, airhead celebs who don't make that much money and are not as smart as they think they are.. and she was giving them a way back if they wanted it.

However I suspect that if it werne't for Archie, they wouldn't be too unhappy if Meg didn't come back and harry did.

[QueenMathilde]

Did someone put this up? I didn't see it. Harry and Meghan are up for Time Magazine's Person of the Year. You can vote "yes" or "no". Bear in mind it's not who you like the most it's who made the news headlines. Controversial people have won.


https://time.com/person-of-the-year-reader-poll-2020/

[Kataryn]

Originally Posted by acdc1

I've said it before and I'll say it again: they should not be allowed to use the titles, not just the HRH. If they want to be "private citizens" who earn their own income so badly, they should style themselves as such and go by Harry and Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor. That's nothing new- Harry did so in the military when he was Harry Wales, Beatrice and Eugenie do it as Beatrice York and Eugenie York at their workplaces, Harry's own niece and nephew do it as George and Charlotte Cambridge at their school. Obviously they won't do it because they seem to be very attached to the titles despite their claims of privacy.

Why should they go by Mountbatten-Windsor and not Sussex when all the other examples used the short form of their title as surname as well? Or Diana's brother Earl Spencer eg signs Charles Spencer. If the queen and the parliament decided to take away Harry's peerage, he would still be Prince Henry of Wales... It is difficult for the son of a future king to be treated like a common person (or citizen, if you prefer) when he doesn't want that. Plus I doubt the RF would want that. For them Harry is a Royal - and while they don't want him to use his style for business, he still has the right to it because of who he was born. That's what comes out of keeping the monarchy with a Queen or King regnant as the person wearing the Crown. Their direct male line family will always be Royals, so they hold the proper style and titles. And what's theirs legally, they can legally use.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Kataryn

Why should they go by Mountbatten-Windsor and not Sussex when all the other examples used the short form of their title as surname as well? Or Diana's brother Earl Spencer eg signs Charles Spencer. If the queen and the parliament decided to take away Harry's peerage, he would still be Prince Henry of Wales... It is difficult for the son of a future king to be treated like a common person (or citizen, if you prefer) when he doesn't want that. Plus I doubt the RF would want that. For them Harry is a Royal - and while they don't want him to use his style for business, he still has the right to it because of who he was born. That's what comes out of keeping the monarchy with a Queen or King regnant as the person wearing the Crown. Their direct male line family will always be Royals, so they hold the proper style and titles. And what's theirs legally, they can legally use.

THe queen can remove an HRH... She wouldn't want to but she made it clear to Harry that he could not use his HRH for business.

[Alison H]

If he came back, he'd still have to do something. If he wanted to get a job, like Beatrice, Eugenie and Peter have done, or do charity work in a private-ish capacity, OK, but those don't seem to be options.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Alison H

If he came back, he'd still have to do something. If he wanted to get a job, like Beatrice, Eugenie and Peter have done, or do charity work in a private-ish capacity, OK, but those don't seem to be options.

He doesnt' have to do anything surely? HE is well off enugh to lead a private life.. and in hte UK he and Meg would not be able to do thier political stuff....

[Alison H]

Might be rather boring! He'd have to do something to fill his time.


Take up golf :-) ? Gardening? I just think he'd need something to do.

[Denville]

Originally Posted by Alison H

Might be rather boring! He'd have to do something to fill his time.


Take up golf :-) ? Gardening? I just think he'd need something to do.

In that sense yes but I don't think he will be able to do much if he comes back. I don't think the publics would want him on royal duties, and honestly I think if he comes back with Meghan they would be better to take to a completely private life. They can't seem to do charity work wtithout making it all about themselves...

[Lee-Z]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

Did someone put this up? I didn't see it. Harry and Meghan are up for Time Magazine's Person of the Year. You can vote "yes" or "no". Bear in mind it's not who you like the most it's who made the news headlines. Controversial people have won.


https://time.com/person-of-the-year-reader-poll-2020/

In 1988 they made Endangered Earth "Planet of the year" and there was no person of the year...i wouldn't be surprised if for 2020 the phenomenon of the year wiil be:
Covid-19

[muriel]

Originally Posted by Alison H

Might be rather boring! He'd have to do something to fill his time.


Take up golf :-) ? Gardening? I just think he'd need something to do.

I am sure that is not the matter. Madam wants to save the world, and be the next Oprah, with a billion US$. Coming back to the UK will not get here.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by QueenMathilde

Did someone put this up? I didn't see it. Harry and Meghan are up for Time Magazine's Person of the Year. You can vote "yes" or "no". Bear in mind it's not who you like the most it's who made the news headlines. Controversial people have won.


https://time.com/person-of-the-year-reader-poll-2020/

I would hope that someone more important this year, most likely related to the big issue of this year: Coronavirus, will be chosen the Time Magazine's Person of the Year instead of a couple that decided to quit their life long commitment to chase fame on their own conditions.

Could the virus/pandemic itself been chosen? They've chosen non-persons before...

[evolvingdoors]

Originally Posted by Somebody

I would hope that someone more important this year, most likely related to the big issue of this year: Coronavirus, will be chosen the Time Magazine's Person of the Year instead of a couple that decided to quit their life long commitment to chase fame on their own conditions.

Could the virus/pandemic itself been chosen? They've chosen non-persons before...

I was bored today, so I signed up and did it. they were both at around 80% (if i recall correctly) of a hard NO. I don't think they're winning- but it was interesting to see the votes, and would be intriguing to see the final results.
It's gonna be either covid or essential workers

[AC21091968]

Harry appeared on Strictly Come Dancing today in JJ Chalmers's VT along with his professional partner Amy Dowden. JJ Chalmers is an Invictus Game medallist. He perviously served as a Royal Marines reservist in Helmand, Afghanistan.

The SCD program is still going on at the moment that I'm typing this post.

Here is a clip from a Sussex fan account
https://twitter.com/PHarry_Meghan/st...01679639244801

The Sunday Times has released an article before SCD was broadcast
Prince Harry steps into Strictly Come Dancing to give friend JJ Chalmers a lift
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/p...rces-75zj5hl0c

[Denville]

Sorry? Harry's appearing on Come Dancing?

[Curryong]

I'm pleased to see Harry supporting JJ in this way. The two share a very close bond since JJ suffered awful injuries in Afghanistan and he and his wife were there at the royal wedding in 2018. Hope he wins!

[ACO]

What a lovely appearance. Go JJ!