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Old 12-18-2020, 04:44 PM
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Even looking at the British Royal Family and the perks they have and the trust funds and will never be known as being "poor folk', very few of them actually *own* their own residences. Good case of 'millionaires that don't own one home" in my book.

I'll state it again. Having a lot of money doesn't necessitate the want and need to buy and own homes. Situations do. Meghan as a single, divorced actress working in Canada for years probably never felt the *need* to buy and own a home no matter how hefty her bank account was at the time.
That is hardly the same thing. THe RF is the premier family in the UK and owns masses of property. so they have set up companies to manage that property and the best way to do so is to rent out their houses to either tenants or members of the family. They make money on the houses they rent out and the family members who rent them usually pay a peppercorn rent...
Meghan was a young actress, making her own way in the world. She didn't have much family money. She wasn't going to get relatives offering her a nice property for a minimal rent.. and given the nature of acting she could not be sure how many jobs she would get - so I can't imagine, if she was really making good money in her acting.. why she would not buy a house in LA which she could rent out while she was working in Canada.. and move back to if she got jobs in HOllywood....
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Old 12-18-2020, 05:26 PM
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Both of Meghan's parents own properties in the LA area, including her mother, to whom she is close, so it's hardly likely that Meghan was homeless at any time when she was in California. Doria's home in particular is supposedly worth quite a bit of money, or so it was said a couple of years ago, and Meghan is her only child. Doria owns her home as it was inherited from her father Alvin.

Doria's home is estimated below to be worth about 678,000 pounds (more of course in US dollars.) And it's likely to go up in value in the future.

https://www.hellomagazine.com/homes/...photos-inside/

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/View...ls,_California

Plus, Meghan was hardly living from pay cheque to pay cheque. Besides her Suits salary (and nobody knows exactly how much she got) there were advertisements, sponsorship deals, The Tig, and she had appeared in movies.

Plenty of young(ish) people on decent salaries including actors, especially if they are single, don't own property and prefer to be fancy free. Meghan's ex, Trevor Engelson, never bought the house in LA the couple lived in during their dating period and marriage, nor bought other property, though presumably, as he was a producer and came from a prosperous family, he could afford it.

https://www.insider.com/meghan-markl...or-sale-2019-8
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Old 12-18-2020, 07:31 PM
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But who is claiming she was some world famous actress?

Her fan base. They're claiming she was on a par with Grace Kelly. She wasn't.
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Old 12-18-2020, 07:40 PM
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I like the Sussexes, am on Twitter and post on several Royal forums. I have never heard or read any fan posts that claim that Meghan was akin to Grace Kelly. However, she wasn't completely unknown either, which is what 9/10s of people who enter the acting profession end up being.
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Old 12-18-2020, 07:45 PM
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I've never heard that Meghan/Grace Kelly comparison either.
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Old 12-18-2020, 07:56 PM
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All of a sudden, there are articles "Harry would have left the Royal family w/o Meghan" what a load of crock? I mean he never looked unhappy before! Why would he had left? It's sad, his life will now be behind a boring podcast.

He has left his friends, his family and the only home he ever known for a woman he hasn't even know for 5 years. Didn't they meet in 2016, married in 2018? Very sad.
Harry has looked unhappy sometime before his marriage and in some pictures he looked bored accompanying his brother and sister in law to events. There IS COVID now which makes all the difference. Good friends cannot see each other if they live far apart. Elderly people are isolated from their families and can only see them through Skype, et al. The royal family is separated and there is no Big Family gathering due to Covid. Different world now. I never heard he left his friends and he is in communication with them Charles says he skypes with them and has been in touch many times with Archie. For all that is known he and Meghan and Archie would have paid visits to the UK if COVID had not happened.

It depends on the couple how long the courtship is, there is no fixed rule Some couples who have dated for years (like Beatrice and Dave Clark) and it fizzles out even despite their "getting to know each other" first. I wish Harry and Meghan well and he has a family of his own now--they married when they were in their thirties and not some teens eloping after knowing each other a few weeks. With COVID hopefully gone, the entire picture should change. Time will tell.
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Old 12-18-2020, 07:57 PM
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Plus-- who else (apart from Grace) has married into any Royal family anywhere who possessed world-wide fame? No-one! Letizia, whom I admire and like, was nationally known, but that's it. Why, presumably in an attempt to diminish her and any former achievements, should actress Meghan be held to a standard no other married-in to royal families but one has matched or even come near?
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:07 PM
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I've never heard of the comparison between Meghan and Grace Kelly either. It's really kind of comparing apples and oranges anyways.

The greats such as Kelly, Hepburn and Monroe reached stardom when their movies had very little competition in what the people were exposed to. Many theaters were showing the same movie in different areas of town. Today there are many, many actors/actresses that are successful in shows where the focus is on an ensemble of characters rather than one main "star". People are more drawn to the genre of shows (crime, romcom, medical etc) than they are to a main "star" of the show, IMO.

Even romcom, happy, sappy and sometimes even crappy Hallmark movies basically follow the same pattern in every single one of them. First hour is the lead up to the "main event". Boy meets girl and they realize each other at the hour mark. The rest of the movie is the build up to the final "happily ever after" scenario. Meghan joined a list of actresses that followed this pattern in Hallmark movies. She didn't exactly stand out from the rest of them.

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Old 12-18-2020, 08:14 PM
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Her fan base. They're claiming she was on a par with Grace Kelly. She wasn't.
Actually I feel people who dislike her claim others say this the most so they can knock it down. People really downplay her achievements. She was part of an ensemble cast on a popular cable TV show. She was hardly A list but she was fairly successful. It doesn’t have to be more than that.
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:19 PM
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I had no idea but a Google Search of 'Meghan Markle Grace Kelly' returned 849,000 Results. With at least on the first few pages both articles that focus on what they have in common and others that state how Meghan isn't Grace Kelly (or should heed her advice).
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:22 PM
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Lee Radziwill, Jacqueline Kennedy's sister, married a royal, Prince Stanisław Albrecht Radziwiłł,and had a title as a result, she did go in for acting and was in a TV production of Laura, which got bad reviews. Other than That I don't recall others (in addition to those mentioned in this thread)who were actresses and married royalty.
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:29 PM
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Lee Radziwill, Jacqueline Kennedy's sister, married a royal, Prince Stanisław Albrecht Radziwiłł,and had a title as a result, she did go in for acting and was in a TV production of Laura, which got bad reviews. Other than That I don't recall others who married royals who acted.
Lady Frederick Windsor (Sophie Winkleman) is an actress and continues to act, even after marriage. She was the older Susan in The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Claudia Winkleman (Strictly Come Dancing co-presenter) is her paternal half-sister.

Lord Frederick Windsor (son of Prince Michael of Kent) however, is not a working royal. I think in most instances, particularly in the show business, she is still introduced as Sophie Winkleman not Lady Frederick Windsor
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Old 12-18-2020, 08:47 PM
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Lady Frederick Windsor (Sophie Winkleman) is an actress and continues to act, even after marriage. She was the older Susan in The Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. Claudia Winkleman (Strictly Come Dancing co-presenter) is her paternal half-sister.

Lord Frederick Windsor (son of Prince Michael of Kent) however, is not a working royal. I think in most instances, particularly in the show business, she is still introduced as Sophie Winkleman not Lady Frederick Windsor
Apart from when specifically talking to Hello or Tatler about her life Sophie Winkleman is addressed as just that and certainly credited as that professionally, never Lady Fredrick Windsor professionally. She's been in a variety of things since her marriage including Red Dwarf and The Walking Dead. But the expectations (and perks and publicity) are very different when you're a second cousin or married in Kent or Gloucester as opposed to supposed to being a full time royal and "the future of the monarchy".
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:05 PM
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Yes, but Meghan is required by detractors to have reached a level of fame and achievement (simply because she was in the acting profession) that no one in any other Royal family really, except Grace Kelly, got to. Apparently, because she didn't, she is to be regarded as an also-ran, sneered at as a nothing, in spite of being employed regularly on a cable show for seven years in a profession where unemployment is rife.

Again, I ask, why is Meghan being held to that sort of standard when no other married-in bride in any Royal family anywhere, hit the absolute top of their professions (those that had them) before marriage? That's not to put down the former careers of Matilde, Maxima, Daniel, Letizia and the rest, but why weren't questions asked about their former professional lives (and of the others without professions of any kind) if only the Stratosphere will do when you enter a Royal family?
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:32 PM
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Yes, but Meghan is required by detractors to have reached a level of fame and achievement (simply because she was in the acting profession) that no one in any other Royal family really, except Grace Kelly, got to. Apparently, because she didn't, she is to be regarded as an also-ran, sneered at as a nothing, in spite of being employed regularly on a cable show for seven years in a profession where unemployment is rife.

Again, I ask, why is Meghan being held to that sort of standard when no other married-in bride in any Royal family anywhere, hit the absolute top of their professions (those that had them) before marriage? That's not to put down the former careers of Matilde, Maxima, Daniel, Letizia and the rest, but why weren't questions asked about their former professional lives and the others without professions of any kind if only the very very best will do when you enter a Royal family.
If I am reading the discussion correctly. The people you call 'detractors' do not require Meghan to have reached such a level of fame and achievement; they are mainly pointing out that she did NOT. Which means that her current fame is due to her marriage to Harry, not to her own achievement as actress.

Although, I would add, she was successful enough (in acting and in making a name for herself within a limited circle by among other things her blog and her active outreach to the people she was interested in meeting/connecting with to further her goals) to manage to move in circles where she had the opportunity to be introduced to Harry.
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Old 12-18-2020, 09:55 PM
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Meghan lived and worked in the US/Canada where there was minimal chance of meeting Harry or any other Royal, for much of the time. So, if that was a goal it was a rather far-fetched one.

And the other married-in royals in Royal families everywhere? Are they constantly bombarded and questioned online about the level of their former professional achievements, if they have any, and receive Twitter put downs about not having reached the very top? Not as far as I can see!
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:09 PM
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I haven't seen the GK/MM comparison either. Most oftge discussions I see deal with her life now.

I do not understand why ppl want to believe she couldn’t buy a house if she wanted to? That the reason she didn’t indicates she was less successful?

Seriously folks...can we not just agree she had success and had the means to purchase a home if she wanted? Ppl making a lot less buy homes/flats all over the world...just turn on House Hunters International!!!

To more important things...fingers crossed we get a holiday pic like last year!!

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Old 12-18-2020, 10:18 PM
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Yes, a lovely family photo on a Christmas card if possible. Longing to see what Archie looks like now!
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:21 PM
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Meghan lived and worked in the US/Canada where there was minimal chance of meeting Harry or any other Royal, for much of the time. So, if that was a goal it was a rather far-fetched one.

And the other married-in royals in Royal families everywhere? Are they constantly bombarded and questioned online about the level of their former professional achievements, if they have any, and receive Twitter put downs about not having reached the very top? Not as far as I can see!
In terms of put down on twitter when I searched "Sophie Winkleman", some Sussex Squads have been vicious towards her, after she did an interview with The Times. She mentioned how she was well supported and treated well by the Royal Family. Not only are they discrediting her success, they are willing to drag her race and religion into it, as well as directing blame of mother-in-law's brooch on her (Sophie). The accusation of racism have been thrown tirelessly, which could have serious libel consequences.

https://twitter.com/search?q=Sophie%...ypeahead_click

How actress Sophie Winkleman married into the royal family . . . and survived
Not all actresses who join the Firm run off. Sophie Winkleman, who played Big Suze in the sitcom Peep Show, fell for the 49th in line to the throne. So how’s it going?
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/h...ived-j9q9t5hqc

Let's not forget that Charles and Camilla were attacked whilst arriving at the Royal Variety Performance by car. The student protestors "racked windows and threw paint on the Rolls-Royce", even though the student fees vote lies solely on the government and parliamentary vote. Camilla later joked about the incident.

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The royal couple had looked visibly shaken when they arrived at the London Palladium for the Royal Variety performance, but Camilla later joked about the incident, saying: "First time for everything" as she left the theatre.
Prince Charles and Camilla caught up in London violence after student fees vote
Attack on royal car as tumult grips capital city's centre following MPs' vote for measure trebling English university fees
https://www.theguardian.com/educatio...d-fees-protest

When Catherine married into the Royal Family, she was being criticised by modern feminist and republicans for "not having a career" and submissive to the "outdated, sexist" institution simply by following protocol.
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Old 12-18-2020, 10:27 PM
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Yes, a lovely family photo on a Christmas card if possible. Longing to see what Archie looks like now!
Yes!!! I bet he has changed a lot since his birthday video.

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