Sarah, Duchess of York Current Events 16: January-May 2011

[Mermaid1962]

I totally agree. Sarah is warm-hearted and fun, and she and Andrew were great together when they were on tour. I don't know what the answer is for her, but I know that things would be better for her family if she toned it down and got whatever genuine help she needs.

Originally Posted by Zonk

Seriously...I would like Sarah to get it together...and I just feel like SHE is HER worst enemy. And its never going to happen if she doesn't stop to think before she acts.

[Irish Eyes]

Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

I totally agree. Sarah is warm-hearted and fun, and she and Andrew were great together when they were on tour. I don't know what the answer is for her, but I know that things would be better for her family if she toned it down and got whatever genuine help she needs.

Here's hoping she turns things around, and I think her best chance of doing that is by listening to and trusting only her immediate family and long time friends.
I'm too young to remember Sarah and Andrew on tour but from what I've read they made a favourable impression. What was it that people liked about them? Was it that they were informal and openly affectionate?
I've never found any footage on YouTube.

[Vita]

Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

This is where the "smilies" to the right come in handy, Vita. It's easier for people to know that you're being sarcastic if you add a wink or a grin.

I know, but I am posting from the fabulous android app and I forgot to type out the darn html code. I love this app but I wish it included emoticons!

[Mermaid1962]

Ah, I see.

Originally Posted by Vita

I know, but I am posting from the fabulous android app and I forgot to type out the darn html code. I love this app but I wish it included emoticons!

[Mermaid1962]

They were very affectionate on their first tour of Canada. In fact, there's a story about them "canoodling" in a gift shop. Have you ever seen that picture of Sarah jokingly pretending to strangle Andrew at an official banquet? She was in a fairy-princess pink ball dress and a tiara at the time. This was the occasion: http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/521...-Photo-Library She also gave a brief speech after Andrew did, which wasn't really protocol but was applauded at the time. They were seen as being in love and young and fresh then, in 1987, and their separation in 1992 came as a real shock. Out of the blue, really. Prince Andrew has kept up his connections with Canada, returning to take part in events having to do with the school he attended in Ontario. The first hit his reputation took on this side of the water was the Epstein connection. Before that, I can't remember him being seen at all as boorish or pompous.

Here's a page of pictures from the tour: http://www.gettyimages.ca/Search/Sea...rk+canada+1987

Originally Posted by Irish Eyes

I'm too young to remember Sarah and Andrew on tour but from what I've read they made a favourable impression. What was it that people liked about them? Was it that they were informal and openly affectionate?

[Irish Eyes]

Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

They were very affectionate on their first tour of Canada. In fact, there's a story about them "canoodling" in a gift shop. Have you ever seen that picture of Sarah jokingly pretending to strangle Andrew at an official banquet? She was in a fairy-princess pink ball dress and a tiara at the time. This was the occasion: Getty Images - Unsupported browser detected She also gave a brief speech after Andrew did, which wasn't really protocol but was applauded at the time. They were seen as being in love and young and fresh then, in 1987, and their separation in 1992 came as a real shock. Out of the blue, really. Prince Andrew has kept up his connections with Canada, returning to take part in events having to do with the school he attended in Ontario. The first hit his reputation took on this side of the water was the Epstein connection. Before that, I can't remember him being seen at all as boorish or pompous.

Here's a page of pictures from the tour: Getty Images - Unsupported browser detected

Thank you very much Mermaid for posting these links. I hadn't seen those photos, and they are really wonderful. They look like they are really enjoying Canada and the welcome they are getting from everybody.
If these photos are anything to go by I think there might have been some truth in those "canoodling" stories.
Thanks again Mermaid, you are very kind, and I'm sorry Zonk I know we are not keeping things very current.

[rmay286]

Originally Posted by Zonk

And make no mistake, I still like Sarah but recent events has caused me to look at her with a new eye. There is no doubt that some things that have happened to Sarah is beyond her control (the global economic crisis which most likely impacted her portfolio) but there are other that she very much can control or get a better handle on. And I am sorry, consistently talking about not being invited to William's wedding when 1) you weren't invited to other royal weddings before this (I am talking about Edwards, Charles, the Gloucester daughters, and Peter) and 2) you haven't had a relationship (like not spoken to) William since his mother died is not cool. Why give the press something to write about. Its time to stop.

She needs to stop talking about Andrew being her best friend, and start acting like a best friend to Andrew. Stop popping up in the papers so everyone can relive this Cash for Access scandal, which brings attention to Andrew's Job and whether or not he should keep it. Stop talking about what a great mother you are and be a great mother.

I feel the same way - I used to defend Sarah, but I can't really now. I still like her, but I don't like the direction she is going. My opinion of her changed after the cash for access scandal and the way she has reacted to it. She's offered excuses, blamed psychological problems, and got publicity from it it, but she has never really admitted that she needs to change her behaviour. It's like she is looking for someone to fix her problems. I think Sarah has problems bigger than psychologists can fix...but she needs to start out by taking responsibility for her own actions. She isn't a little girl (at all) but she seems to want to think of herself as one.

On another note - so Sarah has a Twitter! This means trouble, I think. Sarah is not known for watching her tongue (or keyboard in this case, I suppose...)

[Zonk]

It time for a new thread, which can be found here http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ml#post1261159 .

Thanks to all who posted!