Sarah, Duchess of York Current Events 16: January-May 2011 - Page 36

roseroyal · #**701** 05-11-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

Sounds like a good idea, with the proviso that Sarah stop giving interviews. Completely. If she could remarry Andrew and stay in the background, I'd say "go for it."

I like the idea of remarriage, with no interviews. But the Queen would not go for it, I would think...

Vita · #**702** 05-11-2011, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by roseroyal

I like the idea of remarriage, with no interviews. But the Queen would not go for it, I would think...

I think Charles has proven with his marriage to Camilla that while I'm sure they appreciate and respect their mother very much, they will finally do what makes them happy. If this will shut SARAH up then I hope they get married tomorrow!

EDT: To say I finally made aristocracy! Woo hoo!

KittyAtlanta · #**703** 05-11-2011, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Diarist

...there is what I suppose I can call 'a strong unwritten Royal Rule' that members of the BRF who are 'close to the throne' do not either associate themselves with or try to seek publicity / exposure of this type, and they certainly do not get involved with programmes of a commercial nature...

Are you too young to remember when they all did a TV game show (It's a Knockout?). Now that was embarrassing.

HRH Princess Sonya · #**704** 05-11-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

Sounds like a good idea, with the proviso that Sarah stop giving interviews. Completely. If she could remarry Andrew and stay in the background, I'd say "go for it."

Okay I am going to break my own rules here and say something. My beef is not with Oprah since she is not the one still trying to profit on something she screwed up almost over 20 years ago. Are people really suggesting that Andrew remarry Sarah to become damage control year over a 51 old adult? After all enough is enough!!

sophie25 · #**705** 05-11-2011, 04:40 PM

I can't believe she's back on Oprah...AGAIN. Every time there is a crisis in her life she runs back to Oprah's sofa to explain it all. IMO Sarah has wasted so much of her life hovering in the wings hoping the BRF will take her back in when she should really have been moving on with her life. She could still have had a good relationship with Andrew and she would always have had her girls so why has she never stopped persuing money and fame? It hasn't made her happy and it's only served to make the Royals pull away from her more and more over the years. I can't imagine for one minute that the Countess of Wessex would behave like this if she and Edward were to part. Sophie would more than likley lead a quite and dignified existence thus still remaining close to the Queen. Sarah can't seem to realise that the more you shut up the more chance you have of winning the Queen's favour.

HRH Princess Sonya · #**706** 05-11-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by angela

I can't believe she's back on Oprah...AGAIN. Every time there is a crisis in her life she runs back to Oprah's sofa to explain it all. IMO Sarah has wasted so much of her life hovering in the wings hoping the BRF will take her back in when she should really have been moving on with her life. She could still have had a good relationship with Andrew and she would always have had her girls so why has she never stopped persuing money and fame? It hasn't made her happy and it's only served to make the Royals pull away from her more and more over the years. I can't imagine for one minute that the Countess of Wessex would behave like this if she and Edward were to part. Sophie would more than likley lead a quite and dignified existence thus still remaining close to the Queen. Sarah can't seem to realise that the more you shut up the more chance you have of winning the Queen's favour.

I am not sure what country you are in. However here in the U.S. it is being promoted that the princess will speak for the first time. I will air in Texas in about 10 mins!!

Russophile · #**707** 05-11-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by roseroyal

I like the idea of remarriage, with no interviews. But the Queen would not go for it, I would think...

More like Prince Philip would not go for it.
I believe PA pushes it with HM as he is the favorite however he cannot push it with PP.

MissEvangeline · #**708** 05-11-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by HRH Princess Sonya

I am not sure what country you are in. However here in the U.S. it is being promoted that the princess will speak for the first time. I will air in Texas in about 10 mins!!

She appeared on Oprah last year in June, after the "cash for access" scandal broke. Link

Moonmaiden23 · #**709** 05-11-2011, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Zonk

I believe that Lord Snowdon did attend Charles, Andrew and Edwards wedding. But the key difference is that I think Tony was more of a presence in the lives of this generation of Windsor men than Sarah with William and Harry. Margaret and Tony divorced when they were in the mid to late teens. Thus they were still around him at family events and the like. After their divorce, Tony continued to take photos of the BRF.

Its a lot different than divorcing when your nephews haven't reached their teenage years and NOT seeing them at all afterwards. I know Mark Phillips was at Davina Windsor's wedding but that was because he is her godfather. One would assuem that he continued to have a relationship with her after he and Anne divorced.

At the end of the day its all about relationships...Sarah does not have a relationship with William and Harry. That could be her fault (as a result of her actions), the boys fault (they feel she brings unnecessary scandal to the BRF and they want to distance themselves), or whatever we don't know. What we do know is that Sarah said she hasn't talked to them in years.

Also, Lord Snowdon remained friendly with his sister-in-law the Queen, and with the Queen Mother after the divorce. The Queen Mother is said to have really adored him.

He has mostly been very discreet in regards to his Royal connections...he has not embarrassed the Palace or his former-in-laws in any way.

If I am not mistaken Snowdon took at least one official portrait of Diana Spencer during her engagement period.

Russophile · #**710** 05-11-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

If I am not mistaken Snowdon took at least one official portrait of Diana Spencer during her engagement period.

TIME: Scenes From A Charmed Life (17)

Moonmaiden23 · #**711** 05-11-2011, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bella

No matter what the rest of the world may think of Sarah, to Psses B & E she is their mother. And I am sure they love her unconditionally and accept her with all her shortcomings. It must be very difficult for them. I think people can tend to forget all this.

You are exactly, exactly right Bella. They love her and seem to accept her no matter what. It is beautiful in a way, and it is rather sad at once.

I had a similar situation in my own family...the blackest of black sheep(an alcoholic) that did and said some rather unexcusable things...but I was bound to that person by blood and by love and by inclination and I could not cut them loose no matter how embarrassing and frustrating it sometimes got.

They will NEVER disown or distance themselves from Sarah and frankly I don't think Andrew will either.

I feel for everyone involved.

THANK YOU Russophile...that was the photo I was referring to!

Russophile · #**712** 05-11-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

THANK YOU Russophile...that was the photo I was referring to!

No problemo! I have always felt that Tony Snowdon has an eye and a gift with the camera. And PA as well.

Mermaid1962 · #**713** 05-11-2011, 05:48 PM

That photo was issued for Diana's 21st birthday. BTW this has always been perhaps my favourite portrait from that period. I love how the sapphires highlight her blue eyes!

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TIME: Scenes From A Charmed Life (17)

Mirabel · #**714** 05-11-2011, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

Sounds like a good idea, with the proviso that Sarah stop giving interviews. Completely. If she could remarry Andrew and stay in the background, I'd say "go for it."

Although I don't believe Andrew is considered brilliant, I do think he's smart enough not to remarry Fergie.
As it is, he can distance himself a bit from her peccadilloes, but if they remarry?

Then there's the point that much of the BRF can't stand her!
How would Andrew deal with that? Every holiday or event would be a nightmare.

I'm convinced that if William had wanted Fergie to be at his wedding, she'd have gotten an invitation. (I don't believe he was worried she'd take attention from Catherine or anything of that nature; I think he just doesn't want her around.)

William seems to be very much his own man; when I look at the guest list for his wedding, this seems very clear. All of his personal friends plus key members of his staff received an invitation, limited space or not.

HRH Princess Sonya · #**715** 05-11-2011, 05:54 PM

Just watched to Oprah broadcast in the U.S All she has to say is " I had it all and I blew it". She also said the on how on OWN her reality show has the blessing of PA & her chlidren.

Mermaid1962 · #**716** 05-11-2011, 05:54 PM

Snowdon took a number of photos of Diana for British Vogue and also some official engagement pictures of Charles and Diana. The famous photo of Diana in the very pale blush ruffled blouse is one of these. Here's an article with that photo: Princess Diana’s wedding dress designer sells engagement blouse after financial difficulties « Princess Diana Remembered

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Originally Posted by Moonmaiden23

If I am not mistaken Snowdon took at least one official portrait of Diana Spencer during her engagement period.

Moonmaiden23 · #**717** 05-11-2011, 05:58 PM

Oh, he's(Snowdon) VERY good at what he does...thanks Mermaid!

Mermaid1962 · #**718** 05-11-2011, 06:02 PM

There really seems to be no solution for the "Sarah problem" except perhaps pensioning her off somewhere. Even with her work for Weight Watchers, she talked about her time in the Royal Family--"The Duchess of Pork"--and her abandonment by her mother. The thing about counselling and therapy is that a person has to use the tools that she's taught in order to move on. However, Sarah doesn't seem to be able to do this. She seems to be constantly reliving her traumas, which isn't good for her and isn't good for her family. It doesn't help that there still seems to be a bit of a market for Sarah's "bloodletting" which encourages this bad behaviour. I can't think of another public figure who gets paid for publicly talking about her suffering over and over again. It simply encourages it.

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Originally Posted by Mirabel

Although I don't believe Andrew is considered brilliant, I do think he's smart enough not to remarry Fergie.
As it is, he can distance himself a bit from her peccadilloes, but if they remarry?

Then there's the point that much of the BRF can't stand her!

Mermaid1962 · #**719** 05-11-2011, 06:04 PM

You're welcome. A quick internet search will bring up others , if you're interested in seeing them.

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Oh, he's(Snowdon) VERY good at what he does...thanks Mermaid!

Moonmaiden23 · #**720** 05-11-2011, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mermaid1962

You're welcome. A quick internet search will bring up others , if you're interested in seeing them.

BTW...the problem with "pensioning Sarah off somewhere" is that she would still get herself into financial trouble somehow!

I used to believe that the BRF brought it all on themselves with the shameful financial settlement they gave Sarah...that if they had only given her a lot of money she would not have run amok with these dubious financial deals she got herself into.

But imo, Sarah's problems go much deeper than financial irresponsibility. She was apparently abused and then abandoned by her mother growing up- a mother whose memory she continues to revere, btw-and it has left a very deep hole that she tries to fill with her excesses in spending, eating, not being able to shut the hell up when she should, trusting shady people, etc.

In other words she seems driven to self-sabotage herself, maybe to fulfill some inner voice from long ago that told her she was simply NO GOOD.

I hate sounding like an armchair shrink so I will stop now...but that is what I have believed about her for years.

BTW...I think Prince Andrew attempting to console her by reminding her of their own wedding day was heart-breaking and sweet...they DID have a perfect wedding day and no matter how things eventually turned out no one can ever take that from them.

I don't think I saw Prince Andrew smile once at the William/Kate wedding...he looked sad, imo.