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Old 05-11-2018, 02:58 PM
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I just saw ths comment on Beatrice's Met gala dress and thought it was an interesting conspericy ,“John 19:2 “And the soldiers plaited a crown of thorns, and put it on his head, and arrayed him in a purple robe.” #princessbeatricechose the color purple and robe-esque dress as a true member of royalty. Thus, Christ was mocked for his “royal status.”
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Old 05-11-2018, 08:22 PM
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Now that is just plain sick!

Why is it that Beatrice and Eugenie are always picked on and lambasted for things other royals don't even raise a comment. But blasphemy? Give the woman a break. HM regularly wears purple and I don't see anyone accusing her.
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Blasphemy? Is that the point of the comment? That totally went over my head.
I feel B&E are picked on because their mother is so hated and their father isn't liked much. Plus they aren't regarded as pretty by many and they don't have thin and athletic bodies. Lastly, I feel that certain parts of the British "system" turn on the 2nd born/one who won't be king, after a certain point in their lives.
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Blasphemy? Is that the point of the comment? That totally went over my head.
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Yeah, me too, plus I thought it was way too convoluted of a theory to attribute to Beatrice.
The color of the dress isn’t even ‘royal’ purple, which is a deeper shade, I’d describe the color of Beatrice’s gown as lilac. Plus, if Beatrice meant to wear a ‘crown’ she has access to several real tiaras and could have used one of them rather than the fancy headbands she chose.
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Blasphemy? Is that the point of the comment? That totally went over my head.
I feel B&E are picked on because their mother is so hated and their father isn't liked much. Plus they aren't regarded as pretty by many and they don't have thin and athletic bodies. Lastly, I feel that certain parts of the British "system" turn on the 2nd born/one who won't be king, after a certain point in their lives.


I agree. Perhaps the haters should get a head start on Charlotte, Louis, and Harry’s children!
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Old 05-12-2018, 01:32 PM
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Blasphemy? Is that the point of the comment? That totally went over my head.
I feel B&E are picked on because their mother is so hated and their father isn't liked much. Plus they aren't regarded as pretty by many and they don't have thin and athletic bodies. Lastly, I feel that certain parts of the British "system" turn on the 2nd born/one who won't be king, after a certain point in their lives.
While I don’t agree with the original comment, I don’t think it’s necessary true that people just turn on the 2nd born. Anne technically is the second born. And if it’s just the younger child, Edward isn’t hated. It’s really because of Andrew and Fergie’s drama both within heir marriage and away from each other. Quite frankly, Andrew just comes off as entitled and spoiled most of the time, and then you have the York princess being the only ones of the Queen’s grandchildren with HRH title. It adds to the people seeing the York family as entitled. It’s unfair to Eugenie and Beatrice, but it is what it is.
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Yeah, me too, plus I thought it was way too convoluted of a theory to attribute to Beatrice.
The color of the dress isn’t even ‘royal’ purple, which is a deeper shade, I’d describe the color of Beatrice’s gown as lilac. Plus, if Beatrice meant to wear a ‘crown’ she has access to several real tiaras and could have used one of them rather than the fancy headbands she chose.
How does she have access to several tiaras? At most, she has access to Fergie’s York tiara.
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How does she have access to several tiaras? At most, she has access to Fergie’s York tiara.
True, I don’t know whether her grandmother would loan her a tiara for an event, but she is more likely to have access than most
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How does she have access to several tiaras? At most, she has access to Fergie’s York tiara.
Because she is the granddaughter of the queen

I highly doubt the queen would be willing to loan tiaras to the wives of her grandsons, but not to her own granddaughters. They are her family of course. Beatrice and Eugenie have as much right to tiaras, if not more, then Kate or Meghan did for their weddings.
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Its not just the second born but usually occurs if the children are the same sex: it happened with George V and Albert Victor (now painted as a dimwit and potential Jack the Ripper), George VI and Edward VIII, Elizabeth II and Princess Margaret, and the recent one Prince Charles and Prince Andrew. The last pairing is suspect because the media loves to hate Charles as well.

But back to the girls, they unfortunately must suffer because their mother is Sarah Ferguson.
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Beatrice seems to be a nice young lady. Sometimes she is picked on because of her terrible fashion sense. I don't think her mother has anything to do with this. And blasphemy is just silly.
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Because she is the granddaughter of the queen

I highly doubt the queen would be willing to loan tiaras to the wives of her grandsons, but not to her own granddaughters. They are her family of course. Beatrice and Eugenie have as much right to tiaras, if not more, then Kate or Meghan did for their weddings.
That's just not how this monarch has worked. In fact, she didn't even loan them tiaras for the CHOGM dinner, which both Camilla and Anne worn tiaras to. She's only become more generous with tiara loans in recent years, and that's only to her daughter in laws and granddaughter in law. Ultimately, none of them have any right to the tiaras other than what the Queen loans to them.
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Old 05-13-2018, 01:19 AM
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Beatrice seems to be a nice young lady. Sometimes she is picked on because of her terrible fashion sense. I don't think her mother has anything to do with this. And blasphemy is just silly.
It goes much deeper then criticism of her clothes. It is the fact that she is painted as the party girl and the vacation princess. That even when she is on a work trip, or a charity event, it is painted as her being on a holiday. They in fact go as far as to only report her charity work, when they can find some way to paint it as 'drunken night out' or 'holiday'.
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Beatrice a night out at exclusive Mayfair club Annabel's

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Was she alone ? I mean, by herself ?
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All the wedding excitement and reading about Harry's new titles finally pushed me to register an account here and ask a question I've wondered for a while:

Why is in not considered that Beatrice could become Duchess of York in her own right one day? I understand the basic answer (male only inheritance) but the royal family has made the exception before for the Fife dukedom. If Queen Victoria was able to do so in 1900, why not could Elizabeth not do the same for her granddaughter?

I'm sure this has been asked before but I couldn't find a definitive answer. I wasn't sure if it had something to do with the title Duke of York being more significant to the BRF and thus needing to return to the main line (but it wouldn't have if Andrew had a son, so?) or perhaps if it's collaterally a part of Charles' future plans to "skim down" the royals.

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Welcome ReeceT21! Great question...I can't answer (or rather I'm afraid of getting it wrong!) but I am sure someone will soon...!
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Why is in not considered that Beatrice could become Duchess of York in her own right one day? I understand the basic answer (male only inheritance) but the royal family has made the exception before for the Fife dukedom. If Queen Victoria was able to do so in 1900, why not could Elizabeth not do the same for her granddaughter?
I think the reason is that Queen Elizabeth II seems to be less disposed to granting titles to princesses and their heirs than Queen Victoria was. For example, Queen Victoria created her daughters' children Highness, whereas Queen Elizabeth II apparently never considered doing so.
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I think the reason is that Queen Elizabeth II seems to be less disposed to granting titles to princesses and their heirs than Queen Victoria was. For example, Queen Victoria created her daughters' children Highness, whereas Queen Elizabeth II apparently never considered doing so.

That's not true. Victoria never elevated any of her daughter's children - all of whom were born into foreign royal houses. She did elevated some of her great-grandchildren (the children of the future George V and Queen Mary) who were born Highnesses to Royal Highnesses; at the time, it was standard for great-grandchildren of the monarch to be Highnesses. Edward VII elevated his eldest daughter's children to Highness, but they both gave up use of that title after marriage.


A key thing to note, though, is that in 1917 George V abandoned the use of Highness within the British Royal family and restricted who was and was not a member of the royal house fairly closely. Elizabeth II adheres to those rules, as did her father George VI.
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