Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall Current Events 7: October-November 2005

Elspeth · #1 10-15-2005, 08:15 PM

Welcome to Part 4 of the Charles and Camilla Current Events thread. This thread is for reports of news and up-to-date photos and for discussion of the news items. Please keep this thread on topic and use other threads for in-depth discussions of items other than current news. Don't make me have to start splitting and merging threads; it's a severe pain in the fundament.

The old thread is here:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ead.php?t=7432

seto · #2 10-15-2005, 08:55 PM

Has there been any date set for their visit to the U.S.?

HMQueenElizabethII · #3 10-15-2005, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by seto

Has there been any date set for their visit to the U.S.?

It just said that in the early of November, i think maybe on 2nd of November as they will have Lunch and Dinner with President Bush on 2nd November at White House too.

Saragli · #4 10-16-2005, 03:07 PM

It looks like their are other motives in the upcoming state visit. The Labour party is full of republicans yet they sure no how to use the royal family to their advantage.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...827896,00.html

Incas · #5 10-18-2005, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Princejonnhy25

It looks like their are other motives in the upcoming state visit. The Labour party is full of republicans yet they sure no how to use the royal family to their advantage.

Machiavelli should be proud!:)

tiaraprin · #6 10-18-2005, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Incas

Machiavelli should be proud!:)

That was too funny but yet true!!!!:p

seto · #7 10-20-2005, 10:41 AM

I just read that charles won't discuss diana in the interview next month.

tiaraprin · #8 10-20-2005, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by seto

I just read that charles won't discuss diana in the interview next month.

That is not a surprise.

ysbel · #9 10-20-2005, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by seto

I just read that charles won't discuss diana in the interview next month.

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Originally Posted by tiaraprin

That is not a surprise.

I don't believe it but if its true, he's smart. Everybody has already made up their mind about Charles and Diana. There is nothing he can say to change anyone's opinion. In that case, its best to keep his mouth shut about it and move on with his life in the present.

**Zonk** · #10 10-20-2005, 05:17 PM

Ysbel...I totally agree. In regards to Diana...Charles will never win (not that this is a contest). As much I miss Diana....he has moved on with his life and we need to accept it. Talking about Diana will bring on comparisons with Camilla and that's not a fair contest.

Saragli · #11 10-20-2005, 06:24 PM

I dont completely believe it right now because there seems to be a lot of confusion on the interview. First, I read from a royal leak that the interview had already been taped and a number of things were discussed including Diana. He has no reason really to talk about Diana. Maybe about her charity work or something.

Incas · #12 10-21-2005, 07:54 AM

When is the interview going to be aired?

Mippy O · #13 10-21-2005, 10:08 AM

I can't wait for them to come here. It will be great to see them, and I think that our press won't be hostile to them as some of the English press has been. We should see some terrific footage and pictures. A lot of people here loved Diana, but it was easier for us to move on, because we didn't have the relentless tabloid press here fanning the flames. I like Charles and Camilla together, and I wish them joy and happiness. They seem genuinely happy to be with each other.

ysbel · #14 10-21-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mippy O

A lot of people here loved Diana, but it was easier for us to move on, because we didn't have the relentless tabloid press here fanning the flames.

Well it was a lot easier for us to move on because it's not our Royal Family. American's interest in royalty is more of a novelty factor. Because we don't have a royal family ourselves - we don't have any skin in the game - we can afford to forgive and forget.

wymanda · #15 10-21-2005, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ysbel

Well it was a lot easier for us to move on because it's not our Royal Family. American's interest in royalty is more of a novelty factor. Because we don't have a royal family ourselves - we don't have any skin in the game - we can afford to forgive and forget.

ysbel,
I'm glad to here a voice of reason from "your side of the pond". Some of our American members really get their smalls in a knot over any positive press or comments about Camilla! :o As a British born Australian I take great pride in our Royal family but I can accept that they are all human. Diana had a great following here also but we accept the present. When Prince Charles came here earlier in the year, just after the engagement was announced, he was given several "Bucks Parties" and many good wishes. We accept that everyone makes mistakes and we don't expect perfection from anyone.

**Zonk** · #16 10-21-2005, 09:29 PM

Ysbel...as someone from the other side of the pond who loved Diana..recognizing that you are entitled to your opinion..also not trying to hijack a Camilla thread with another discussion of Diana...here are my two cents and please bear in mind that I speak for me...no one else.

I am ambivalent about Camilla..at one time couldn't stand her...and based upon what I have heard about her...maybe if the circusmtances were different...could possibly like her. I recognize that she and Charles love each other and have a right to be happy finally. I also acknowledge that Diana wasn't perfect and could be manipulative, and cheated on her husband as well. So what bothers me about the situation? Its like the attempt by some to white wash Diana out of history. Like she was simply a means to the end (i.e. producing the children). That she was crazy and she brought about all of problems ALL BY HERSELF. Say what you want..and again..we don't know all the facts but its becoming clear that she was chosen because it was assumed she would be a quiet little mouse. And I find that quite disguisting. Please note, however, I don't assign all the blame to Camilla (it takes two to cheat). It was so obvious that he loved her when they first dated..but didn't know if she could pass the test. Hey! Stand up for yourself. If you love someone you fight for it. She also didn't know if she wanted to be Queen. Hey same thing back at you! FIGHT FOR IT! I respect his later stand that Camilla's role in his life was "non-negotiable" I just wished he had taken that stance years ago.

Saragli · #17 10-22-2005, 09:50 AM

The Past is in the Past and the most people would be disgusted with the inside workings of the Royal Family. But, hopefully things are changing with the times. Prince Charles comes next week so I guess in two weeks it might air.

tiaraprin · #18 10-22-2005, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zonk1189

Ysbel...as someone from the other side of the pond who loved Diana..recognizing that you are entitled to your opinion..also not trying to hijack a Camilla thread with another discussion of Diana...here are my two cents and please bear in mind that I speak for me...no one else.

I am ambivalent about Camilla..at one time couldn't stand her...and based upon what I have heard about her...maybe if the circusmtances were different...could possibly like her. I recognize that she and Charles love each other and have a right to be happy finally. I also acknowledge that Diana wasn't perfect and could be manipulative, and cheated on her husband as well. So what bothers me about the situation? Its like the attempt by some to white wash Diana out of history. Like she was simply a means to the end (i.e. producing the children). That she was crazy and she brought about all of problems ALL BY HERSELF. Say what you want..and again..we don't know all the facts but its becoming clear that she was chosen because it was assumed she would be a quiet little mouse. And I find that quite disguisting. Please note, however, I don't assign all the blame to Camilla (it takes two to cheat). It was so obvious that he loved her when they first dated..but didn't know if she could pass the test. Hey! Stand up for yourself. If you love someone you fight for it. She also didn't know if she wanted to be Queen. Hey same thing back at you! FIGHT FOR IT! I respect his later stand that Camilla's role in his life was "non-negotiable" I just wished he had taken that stance years ago.

VERY WELL SAID!

BeatrixFan · #19 10-22-2005, 10:11 AM

Why does every single topic have to return to 'I like Diana/I hate Camilla' - if you don't like Charles and Camilla then why post in their forum? Those of us who don't like Diana don't post in the Diana forum and endlessly take all enjoyment out of every thread do we?

I'd like to look at Charles and Camilla Current Events Part 4 and see what Their Royal Highness's have been upto, what Camilla's been wearing, what Charles has been doing and how well Camilla is doing - what is becoming really tiresome is the monotonous, "Camilla is Evil" - "Charles is a Monster" - etc.etc.

I failed to see the Letters Patent that appointed a group of individuals to fight Diana Spencer's battles but if someone can show it to me, I'll gladly shut-up!

HELP!

Elspeth · #20 10-22-2005, 11:01 AM

Thank you for the reminder, Beatrixfan. Can we please get this thread back on topic?

Elspeth

British Royals moderator