Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall Current Events 26: August 2010-December 2014


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Jesus Christ! So thankful Charles and Camilla are okay, I got scared when I heard about it.
 
Lumutqueen said:
But The Queen isn't the one who has said "Ooo I think I will raise the cap on English University fees so as to get the country out of debt, but it will actually get it more in debt when next years College students graduate and face these raised fees" She signs the piece of paper because she has no real choice in the matter.

And I do know what my government is doing, thank you.
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As you said that the royal family have nothing to do with the vote I was simply reminding you, and everyone else, that the Queen has to sign to legislation and therefore does have a role to play - that she has no say over the signing doesn't change the fact that until she signs it it isn't law.

Did I ever suggest that you didn't know what you government was doing? If I did I am sorry as that was never my intent. I simply was trying to explain what the issue was.
 
Glad they are OK- feel sorry for the DOC and that poor car! Are they raising fees in all schools or just university? Just proves why royals need bodyguards.
 
It must have been terrifying to turn a corner and be confronted by a mob of rioters. These people went to demonstrate with no intention of keeping to the agreed protest route. They came prepared for violence, armed with scrarves and bandanas to cover their cowardly faces and pool balls and paintball guns to assualt anyone that got in their way. They attacked shops in Oxford and Regent streets. They also assaulted shoppers caught up it the melee.

The Royal Proection squad would not have been aware that there was a need for extra security for what is essentially a regular trip to the Royal Variety Show, the Ballet or whatever. The BRF itself was not was not targeted. The Royal entourage was merely a target of opportunity, an opportunity that will make the vast majority of protesters feel shame for the damage done and probably a little scared at how easily their legitimate protest was hijacked by the looney and dangerous left.

As for the notion of "speeding away"? The BRF do not run down people even if they are part of a rioting mob. I am so glad that Charles and Camilla were unharmed, shaken but not stirred. Hopefully some thoughtful RPS member handed them both a stiff drink before they sallied forth looking very British! Full steam ahead and damn the torpedoes.
 
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I can understand that students are not happy about this. However, the rioters look more like anarchists happy to have some pretext for violence, than real students...
Happy that Charles and Camilla, who have absolutely nothing to do with it, are unharmed.
 
I am not from England so can't comment on laws there but maybe the protestors/rioters just saw the car as a symbol of the wealthy and not the BRF- I did see one pic earlier that had some rioters writing 'let the wealthy pay'....
 
If you listen to one of the students talking you can here him describe how Charles and Camilla's car got separated from all the other protection and police cars. Charles and Camilla seem to have been smiling and trying to calm all the students that had surrounded their car until one person had attacked the car. I doubt it was anything personal, but there is nothing like attacking the heir to the oldest and most prominent British institution to get your message and anger across. I just hope the Tories don't ignore all of this. There is only so much peaceful protesting people can do before things get violent like this.
 
Maybe I'm just really tired from studying but I don't get what the witness is trying to say in Sky New video. I'll listen to it again but it just seems people were shocked to see Charles and Camilla and began to swarm the car no mention of how the paint bomb actually went off or anything like that.
 
Camilla looks really shaken as she gets out of the car in that video which really isn't a surprise. As a student I really think acts like this, and the fire extinguisher being thrown, really turn the public against the students cause.
 
Looks to me that the student protest which real students wanted to keep non violent and non destructive was quickly overtaken by what we call the Rent a Crowd. That is radicals out to cause as much damage as possible. These radicals will turn up to anything and they are most certainly not University students. Tis a pity that Charles's car was caught up in it as it gives them more of a global audience for there cause. The royal couple looked justifyably scared. It must have been terrifying for them. One pic shows them clutching each others hands tightly.
 
I don't understand why they have chosen as targets Charles and Camilla
 
Charles and Camilla were attacked either

1. because they are symbols of governmental power, or
2. they were convenient.
 
BBC reporting Camilla has said she is "fine" after the car attack and joked that "there is a first time for everything".
 
BMC said:
Yes, spoiled brats. Their tuition is going up so they riot & attack innocent people?
Those are not the actions of mature people.
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Actually, the majority of people who were rioting and causing the problems aren't having their fees put up. They either will leave university this year, have already left or were there for fun. The college students who it will affect, are in their first year and not many turned out at the protest. Fees will go up next year and will not affect uni students already there or students who start next year. Spoiled would imply they have been given too much of one thing, when they are just expressing their anger in the wrong way IMO.

Lenora said:
I don't understand why they have chosen as targets Charles and Camilla
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They were in the wrong place at the wrong time.

missmaggy said:
Charles and Camilla were attacked either

1. because they are symbols of governmental power, or
2. they were convenient.
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1; They aren't symbols of government as they have nothing to do with it.
2; They riots weren't supposed to be in Regent Street, where the car was attacked, and hardly anyone would have known the Royal Variety Performance was occuring tonight.
 
Lenora said:
I don't understand why they have chosen as targets Charles and Camilla
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Just because they were there, basically. Things had gotten pretty out-of-control already, and a royal car in the midst of everything just became a target.
 
It was a pretty stupid move on the part of the protesters/students -- they are not going to get any sympathy from anyone after this. Total nonsense!:bang:
 
Lumutqueen: Of course neither Charles nor Camilla have any governmental power. Perhaps instead of saying they are symbols of governmental power I should have said they are seen by many as symbols of the establishment, or of the existing power structure in the United Kingdom, or that perhaps the mob, not thinking clearly due to its anger, perceived them to be symbols of governmental power. I do maintain, however, that it is not necessary to hold actual power to be perceived as being symbolic of power.

You seem to counter my suggestion that Charles and Camilla were attacked because they were conveniently located near angry people by saying "They riots weren't supposed to be in Regent Street, where the car was attacked, and hardly anyone would have known the Royal Variety Performance was occuring tonight." This would seem to suggest that this riot is one of the more organized sort ('alright, we're going to riot on Oak Street and Maple Avenue, but no rioting on Peach Street, okay'). A well-organized and orderly riot, what a delightfully English concept!

I was merely suggesting--in, admittedly, a rather more prolix manner--that the couple were, in the words of the trite expression "in the wrong place at the wrong time."
 
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Regarding the Daily Mail's coverage: a headline reads Scotland Yard resort to 'kettling' in Parliament Square
What's 'kettling'?
 
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CTV Toronto - Demonstrators kick car carrying Prince Charles - CTV News
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On a (very) lighter note, it's very heartwarming to see the POW protecting like this his darling wife...
 
Nico said:
On a (very) lighter note, it's very heartwarming to see the POW protecting like this his darling wife...
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Yes, it is. He might be the heir to the throne but when it was just the two of them his thought was to protect his wife. Nice. :flowers:

It is appalling that they did come under attack like that. Think it was probably a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time, but what if the crowd had been larger and had comprised a larger number of violent types?
 
It really must have been frightening...Charles confirms the very good opinion I have of him !
 
The young people were hardly anarchists, as the article implies. No, this was not a proper protest, but "if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen". Harry Truman knew that when you have power, you, also, have to deal with some of the crap. It is, probably, very difficult for young people who have no idea how they will pay this much higher tuition, see people who do nothing for a living, live high off the hog. Of course, it still was not right.
 
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