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Old 01-30-2009, 11:36 PM
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think maybe we should all be greatful that there hasn't been a repeat of the David/Edward and George/Albert situation.
The situation I am referring to was that Albert (the younger) was straight as a die (boring), whilst David (the elder) was the playboy (joker).
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Mind you, I think the "name-change" situation would be enough to give anyone an identity crisis! ????
Both became King and neither was called by his "own" name!

David was King Edward and Albert was King George! And if that's not enough to give someone an identity crisis I don't know what would!
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The situation I am referring to was that Albert (the younger) was straight as a die (boring), whilst David (the elder) was the playboy (joker).
Both became King and neither was called by his "own" name!

David was King Edward and Albert was King George! And if that's not enough to give someone an identity crisis I don't know what would!
Who made the decision not to use their own name?

They did themselves.

No one forced them to decide to be King Edward and King George rather than King David and King Albert - that was their individual decisions alone (of course Edward VIII's first name was Edward and not David).

What is the difference between the present Queen who was called Lillibet by her family but uses the name Elizabeth as Queen - she knows who she is and doesn't have an identity crisis (as far as I am aware).
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What is the difference between the present Queen who was called Lillibet by her family but uses the name Elizabeth as Queen .
I don't think you will find "Lillibet" on her birth certificate. It is, of course, a diminutive of "Elizabeth".

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A diminutive (or pet name) of a given name is a short and/or affectionate form. Often they are only used by friends and relatives.
There is absolutely no comparison.
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I don't think you will find "Lillibet" on her birth certificate. It is, of course, a diminutive of "Elizabeth".

There is absolutely no comparison.
Of course there is - one is the name by which they were known in their family - David, Bertie (not Albert by the way) and Lillibet whereas the other is the name by which they chose to be known on becoming monarch - Edward, George and Elizabeth. Had Elizabeth wished to be known as Queen Lilibet there is nothing that says that she couldn't. The monarch doesn't have to use one of the names on their birth/baptismal certificates. They can chose any name they like.

They could have chosen to use, as their regnal names, whatever they wanted to and they chose. The names they did chose were different to the ones by which they were known within their families and private circles but that was their choice and therefore wouldn't have contributed to any identity crisis.

My point is that any changed name between the more commonly used name in private, and the official name, was made by them. They were still called by their pet names at home and only used the official name in official capacities.
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As the Harry and Chelsy current events thread has now veered way off topic
it is the appropriate moment to close this chapter.

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