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12-02-2017, 05:55 PM
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Christians should pray for Prince George to be gay, says senior Scottish reverend | The Independent
'Projecting' ANY Sexuality on a CHILD ill behoves an organisation that has spent 2000 years suppressing such impulses...
Speculating over the sexuality of a 4-year-old boy is demented, but utterly characteristic of the PC MANIA that has taken over the Anglican Communion in its ever more contorted attempts to stave off extinction in the Country of its creation..
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12-02-2017, 06:00 PM
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Seriously  I am a massive LGBT supporter, and I for one and am happy the church is stepping up in support. But this?????  For anyone, especially a priest, to suggest people should pray a child is gay  If George or any other royal is gay hopefully we have moved on as a society enough to fully accept that. But George is a child not a political pawn.
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12-02-2017, 06:02 PM
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Said clergyman would probably be livid if someone publically stated we should pray for George to be straight.
Beyond the pale. His bishop should reprimand him.
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12-02-2017, 06:10 PM
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Seriously I am a massive LGBT supporter, and I for one and am happy the church is stepping up in support. But this????? For anyone, especially a priest, to suggest people should pray a child is gay If George or any other royal is gay hopefully we have moved on as a society enough to fully accept that. But George is a child not a political pawn. |
I agree completely - a child's sexuality - straight or gay - should not be used as a prop. Let a child have some privacy.
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12-02-2017, 06:18 PM
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The reality is the CoE IS on the verge of extinction in Britain.. as a result its clergy [who have been 'lefty' for at least two/three generations] are DESPERATE to attract new 'blood' in their congregations. They imagine this type of pronouncement will do it !
They are WRONG.
Most 'natives' are now secularist/agnostic/humanist or merely uninterested. Ethnic minorities are [largely] Muslim/Catholic or Hindu, and the Christians amongst them are 'Evangelical' [Having NO time for LGBTQ rights WHATSOEVER].
We ARE a 'post Christian' Nation now, and given this sort of tripe, I'm glad of it..
I say this as a Gay Man myself, and one who was bought up, [very happily] in a CoE observant Family..
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12-02-2017, 06:34 PM
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I wouldn't even comment on this. It will just give more publicity to despicable, inappropriate remarks.
The Christian Churches do not need external aggression to destroy themselves: they are doing a good job on their own. How sad. 
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12-02-2017, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by wyevale
The reality is the CoE IS on the verge of extinction in Britain.. as a result its clergy [who have been 'lefty' for at least two/three generations] are DESPERATE to attract new 'blood' in their congregations. They imagine this type of pronouncement will do it !
They are WRONG.
Most 'natives' are now secularist/agnostic/humanist or merely uninterested. Ethnic minorities are [largely] Muslim/Catholic or Hindu, and the Christians amongst them are 'Evangelical' [Having NO time for LGBTQ rights WHATSOEVER].
We ARE a 'post Christian' Nation now, and given this sort of tripe, I'm glad of it..
I say this as a Gay Man myself, and one who was bought up, [very happily] in a CoE observant Family..
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The same in Australia. It shows the desperation the clergy are showing when they use a 4 year old child to make a point. This is why people are turned off by religions.
I hope the all the Cambridge children turn out to be happy, healthy and productive members of society. I hope their decision they make about their sexuality is met with full acceptance and no prejudice. I hope they find the same love their parents did, whether they are gay or straight.
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12-02-2017, 11:43 PM
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I am almost at a loss for words. Notice I said *almost*. This is a prime example of why more and more people are turning away from organized religions and their spiritual leaders. Perhaps this reverend believes he is on the right track but I think he took a wrong turn somewhere at Albuquerque.
I seriously believe that each and every one of us is an expression of our Creator individualized. This is what is meant by "Love one another as I have loved you". There is no because in that sentence. We all express ourselves in ways that are unique to us. We are all different. We are all on our own personal journey on this Earth and working towards going Home. This reverend misses that mark completely by even suggesting how an individual soul should be or live his life.
Perhaps he needs an extensive refresher course in his beliefs or some serious soul searching? I don't know. It does take all kinds to make this world go around though.
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12-02-2017, 11:49 PM
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I am almost at a loss for words. Notice I said *almost*. This is a prime example of why more and more people are turning away from organized religions and their spiritual leaders. Perhaps this reverend believes he is on the right track but I think he took a wrong turn somewhere at Albuquerque.
I seriously believe that each and every one of us is an expression of our Creator individualized. This is what is meant by "Love one another as I have loved you". There is no because in that sentence. We all express ourselves in ways that are unique to us. We are all different. We are all on our own personal journey on this Earth and working towards going Home. This reverend misses that mark completely by even suggesting how an individual soul should be or live his life.
Perhaps he needs an extensive refresher course in his beliefs or some serious soul searching? I don't know. It does take all kinds to make this world go around though.
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Sad thing is he probably thinks this will boost people coming to church. One of the reasons many people have turned back on church is the close minded attitude towards gay people. He is probably trying to show the door is open to them by doing this.
The catholic church gets a lot of hate for their stance on traditional things, but I find they are or are becoming far more open minded then some. Even the Pope has shown acceptance. I find more hatred towards gays from evangelical family members then catholics.
The more these religions scream bigotry at people, and try to force their beliefs into laws, the more they drive people away. Sad. Jesus ate with pagans, tax collectors, prostitutes and more. Yes his so called followers think they are above that.
Just pathetic he drags a small child into his campaign for more attendees. Ridiculous.
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12-03-2017, 12:24 AM
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The doe, episcopal churches in our area are quite full, vibrant, and growing. I can attribute this to the energetic clergy and desire of community by the parishioners, just my assessment. This is not my church but different friends, and it depends on the church and the minister. The very robust one I am thinking of down the street has a very outgoing, kind and gay minister.
Btw a terrific publicity grab and very inappropriate to use a child for,this
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12-03-2017, 12:31 AM
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Totally appalling
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12-03-2017, 01:11 AM
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Has he been dismissed ? Haven’t read the article but surely he’s in trouble for this. It is shocking
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12-03-2017, 01:18 AM
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To be honest, this reverend's way of thinking ranks right up there with the recent article in the British Nobility thread where the Earl of Balfour suggests that his daughter can have a sex change operation to inherit his title. 
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Unbelievable!! As has been said, this is why attendance is down across the board in the respective Christian organizations. They're so desperate, they've lost the plot & I would NOT have wanted to be around William, Kate, The Queen, Phillip &/or Charles when they learned about this. Me thinks steam coming out of ears would only have been the start of their reaction.
Sad, sick, disgusting & he should at least lose his Parish. As for after...The Shetland Islands are part of Scotland IIRC. Those people must be need of Spiritual Guidance, aren't they?
Just a thought....
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I'm not sure how much news this really is. Churches have always had oddballs and attention-seekers like this.
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12-03-2017, 09:28 AM
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According to Wililam she's crazy about horses too...I'm hoping she goes the way of Louise and/or Zara.
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12-03-2017, 01:41 PM
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Has he been dismissed ? Haven’t read the article but surely he’s in trouble for this. It is shocking
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Today’s papers say that there will be no formal action taken against the idiot who made these sick comments. Unfortunately the Church of England now sees itself as a political organisation and behaves as such - with very little accountability. At the very least a formal (though private) apology should have been sent to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge.
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