General News for Queen Elizabeth and Duke of Edinburgh 1: July 2008-March 2017


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Can someone save me from Ephraim Hardcastle and Sebastian Shakespeare? I know we complain about the British press in general, but these two are much worse. We need to visit the US and the Globe to find someone we can compare them with.
 
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If one were to be pedantic that list is of the countries where she is Queen de facto - there are many other countries where she is Queen de jure (and if any of them reverted to being a monarchy she would be Queen of again de facto) - South Africa, Zimbabwe, Tanganyika (not Tanzania), Uganda, Kenya, Gambia, Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Malta, Fiji, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Ireland

Obviously, she is not Queen de jure of any of the aforementioned countries as they are all republics governed by a republican constitution that recognizes no queen or king as their Head of State. At most, she can be a pretender to the (defunct) thrones, if any, of those countries.

The Queen was, however, once de jure the Head of State of some coutries that were Commonwealth realms and later became republics. For example, she was still crowned as Queen of South Africa, Ceylon and Pakistan.
 
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The Queen may make first public appearance in a month tomorrow at Sandringham church service. Buckingham Palace to issue statement 9.30am
 
Queen's ill health may prevent her from attending church on Sunday
he Queen's ill health may again prevent her from attending church on Sunday.

The monarch has stayed out of the public eye since Christmas after being struck down with a heavy cold.

Buckingham Palace was unable to confirm whether the 90-year-old would be attending the Sunday service at Sandringham and refused to comment on Princess Anne’s assurances on New Year’s Day that the Queen was feeling “better”.

Speculation as to whether the Queen is well enough to resume her usual routine remains just that, as palace officials said her appearance will be confirmed after 9.30am on Sunday.

Queen Elizabeth broke protocol for the first time in her almost 64-year reign when she decided not to attend both her traditional Christmas and New Year's church services.
Here reign has lasted for almost 65 years, not 64.
 
Obviously, she is not Queen de jure of any of the aforementioned countries as they are all republics governed by a republican constitution that recognizes no queen or king as their Head of State. At most, she can be a pretender to the (defunct) thrones, if any, of those countries.

What is the difference between de jure and pretender ? She may be pretender to Ireland - but she was certainly Queen of ... all of the other countries mentioned - oh and Zambia and Malawi ... and there have been intimations about restoring the monarchy in Fiji ...
 
What is the difference between de jure and pretender ? She may be pretender to Ireland - but she was certain Queen of ... all of the other countries mentioned - oh and Zambia and Malawi ... and there have been intimations about restoring the monarchy in Fiji ...


De jure basically means in law while pretender is in pretence.

The Queen is de jure Queen of the Commonwealth Realms (including Northern Ireland), and at one point in her reign was de jure Queen of most of the Commonwealth Nations that are now republics. She could be seen as a pretender to these thrones, except she doesn't actually lay claim to them. A better example of a pretender would be Franz of Bavaria, who does not claim the British throne himself but has the thrones of England (and Wales), Scotland, and Ireland claimed on his behalf by Jacobites.
 
The Queen, 90, may miss church AGAIN because she's still sick 'with hacking cough' - Mirror Online
Joe Little, the managing editor of Majesty magazine, said : "I am hopeful that she will have sufficiently recovered to appear in public tomorrow and sit for an hour long service in church.

"Missing one week at church was a little bit of concern and when she didn't attend for a second week, it escalated that concern. If she missed a third week, then it would be at the alarming stage."

Can you imagine what the press would say/write, If she misses church tomorrow? And as you can see, they have already started.
 
We will be seeing in the Daily Mail a retrospective of the deaths of George V & VI both died at Sandringham with some stupid headline like Is the Queen Next? Sandringham where monarchs die if the Queen doesn't appear soon.
 
She has already carried out the first royal engagement of the year! So hardly at deaths door! Please! :ermm:
 
I have to give praise to the Daily Fail after they (along with the Telegraph/Times) have refrained from writing about what happens when the Queen dies. But since all the other newspapers have written about it, the mail couldn't resist:

For Queen's sake, don't close the Commons, plead MPs: Theresa May set to join revolt against plans to move government out of Westminster in case it disrupts the Queen's funeral | Daily Mail Online
Theresa May is poised to join a revolt against plans to move MPs out of crumbling Parliament for six years – because of the disruption that would be caused to the Queen’s funeral in the event of her death during that time.

Relocating the MPs would mean closing the Palace of Westminster – including historic Westminster Hall, where by tradition monarchs, senior Royals and great political figures such as Sir Winston Churchill lie in state before their funerals.

Ministers were shocked to learn that officials had not made alternative arrangements for any lyings in state during the period the MPs are due to be away, starting in 2022.

‘This appears to be a serious flaw in the proposals,’ said a senior source.
 
Good article by Robert Hardman, as usual:

ROBERT HARDMAN on Queen Elizabeth's milestone no previous monarch has reached | Daily Mail Online
It was also testimony to the pressure exerted on her by both her doctor and her family. The tiny clutch of sick notes during this record reign is a reflection of both the Queen’s strong constitution and her tendency to battle on when below par. But after her 90th birthday, it is clear that there is now a new policy on convalescence.

After all, this is an important royal year – and not just because the Queen and Prince Philip will celebrate 70 years of marriage.

For as of February 6 – the 65th anniversary of the Queen’s accession – the first Sapphire Jubilee in history will begin. Hence, no doubt, yesterday’s choice of an all-blue ensemble. Besides, as those close to the Queen point out, sapphire is also one of her favourite colours.

Six monarchs have reigned for 50 years – a Golden Jubilee – whereas only two have reached Diamond (Victoria and Elizabeth II). Sapphire is entirely uncharted territory.

Buckingham Palace is not planning any events to mark this rather charming landmark but it has already received official recognition.

The Queen has formally approved designs for jubilee coins and stamps in a number of her smaller realms and overseas territories, where the local economy can derive considerable income from special commemorative issues. The jubilee will be big business for some.

In Britain, royal staff say it will be entirely up to individuals and organisations to decide whether and how to mark this milestone. The view is that it should be low-profile but enjoyed by anyone who wants to.

One insider said: ‘The Diamond Jubilee was a very big occasion five years ago and the Queen is modest about these things.’ But if people want to organise a sapphire-themed village fete, dance, concert or carnival parade, they will do so with the royal blessing.

And HM The Queen was the picture story on many of the front pages today, as she often is:

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:previous: Off topic, but gosh what awful other Headlines. :ohmy:
 
Russians ... Russian hackers ... It is the British time honoured tradition to repeat brazen lies.
 
Another time honoured tradition of bringing nothing to the conversation as well I see.
 
Is there anything to bring to the conversation about headlines about Russian hackers? Nothing much.
 

Not surprised. There are do many hoax celebrity death stories every week, not surprised the queen joined the list. After the hysteria over her illness in some circles, surprised took this long. If not the Russians, some other site. :bang:
 
Russians ... Russian hackers ... It is the British time honoured tradition to repeat brazen lies.


What does this have to do with Russian hackers?

Or British lies for that matter?

Did you even read the headlines let alone the articles?

It seems like Russian (possibly fake) news media has picked up on the British fake news media reporting the Queen's death. As the fake British news has been discussed in the forum (more in terms of the absurdity that the situation has hit), it seems only logical that the new Russian fake news would also be discussed...
 
I found this article to be extremely heartwarming. Not only because of HM's love for her animals but also because of the strong relationship that she had with Bill and Nancy over many years.

HM is such a woman that can and will form bonds with people and animals easily without a shred of pomposity. She conducts her life as being one of the people and sees her job as Queen as her duty and obligation to serve those people.

I do believe that Bill's dogs will be very well cared for under the Queen's guidance whether she takes them in herself or is assured that Bill's family can and will provide a good home for them.
 
Makes me smile and it does seem something she would do :flowers:

Would be sweet if she took the dogs in. Especially gifting since one is not only a corgi but one if hers, says she gave the couple one of her puppies. I am sure a bishon would be a nice addition.
 
Read more: Royal Celebration Series: From accession to a Sapphire Jubilee in 2017 | The Royal Mint Blog
2017 will complete a hat-trick of hugely significant years for Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. In 2015 The Queen became the Longest Reigning Monarch in British history. In 2016 she became the first British monarch to celebrate her 90th birthday. Now, in 2017, she will have been our Queen for 65 years, becoming the first British monarch to celebrate a Sapphire Jubilee.

The Sapphire Jubilee is a historic achievement, and one worthy of recognition. As with all Jubilees in Her Majesty’s reign, it is one with cause for both celebration and reflection. To help explain why, we’ve taken a look back to where it all began, to the moment where a young Princess Elizabeth became Queen.
Good article from the Royal Mint, but she wont celebrate it. She will most likely spend the day quietly at Sandringham. The next big celebration of HM will be in 2022 when she celebrates her Platinum Jubilee. And I think she will make it, since she is so healthy/vigorous.
 
Parliament refit means Queen would lie in state at St Paul’s | News | The Times & The Sunday Times

An article from the Times which covers plans for the State Opening of Parliament and The Queen's Lying in State should the planned refurbishment of the Palace of Westminster go ahead.


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The Queen could lie in state in St Paul’s cathedral if the Houses of Parliament are closed for repairs at the time of her death, according to contingency plans being considered by officials.

A £3.9 billion restoration project will mean the Palace of Westminster will be closed for six years, including Westminster Hall, used for the lying-in-state of monarchs and royal consorts.

Whitehall sources said that St Paul’s cathedral had been identified as the most suitable alternative for hosting the queues of people wanting to pay their respects. Plans for the Queen’s funeral, which has the codename London Bridge, are kept under regular review.

Officials have also been looking for a venue to host the pomp and pageantry of the opening of parliament when the House of Lords chamber is unavailable. This means that the Queen would probably set out the government’s legislative programme at the Banqueting House, the only surviving building of the old Palace of Whitehall where Charles I was executed.

MPs and peers are expected to move out in a “full decant” from 2022 so repairs can be carried out to the plumbing, electrical and heating systems. Supporters of the plan warn that the old wiring system could spark a fire.

The geniuses in Fail Online has an article about it too:
Queen could lie in state in St Paul's Cathedral | Daily Mail Online
 
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The Queen will notch up yet another remarkable milestone in her record-breaking reign next week, but for her, it will be a day of contemplation rather than celebration.

On Monday, February 6, the Queen will become the first British monarch to reach a Blue Sapphire Jubilee, 65 years to the day since she ascended the throne.

For Her Majesty, the more important anniversary is that of her father’s death at the age of just 56.

She said in 2015 that her record as Britain’s longest-reigning monarch was “not one to which I have ever aspired”, and royal sources said she will spend the day in “quiet reflection” at Sandringham.

There are no plans for a public celebration of the latest Jubilee, despite its uniqueness, and the Queen will spend part of the day itself going through her red boxes of official documents.

Dickie Arbiter, the Queen’s former press secretary, said: “It’s important to understand that for the Queen this marks the anniversary of the day her father died.

“She has always made it clear that her long reign is a consequence of her father’s early death, and so it is not a day for celebration.

“She will go to church the day before, and her father will be in her thoughts then. On the day itself, she will do her red boxes but she won’t be going out and about anywhere.”
And I love this picture from her 90th birthday:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/...5_K9cMdGPZexEeYHxP_-ookowZaiAt6nSOJJGOo1Y.jpg
 
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