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Old 01-06-2017, 05:35 PM
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I should have written that she is the head of state of United Kingdom, Canada, Australia and New Zealand (since she has been Queen of these countries since 1952) and 12 countries in the Pacific/Caribbean that have become independent since her accession or I could have done as you and mentioned all the countries.
If one were to be pedantic that list is of the countries where she is Queen de facto - there are many other countries where she is Queen de jure (and if any of them reverted to being a monarchy she would be Queen of again de facto) - South Africa, Zimbabwe, Tanganyika (not Tanzania), Uganda, Kenya, Gambia, Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Malta, Fiji, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Ireland
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I'm not familiar with IBTimes, but from what I've heard about them, it is not surprising that their American articles about the royal family are full of errors.

The article they wrote about royal finances were so flawed that it was ridiculous. Read it here:
http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...ml#post1951900

And this article is perhaps even more ridiculous. The Queen is known worldwide as a non scandalized person and the so-called scandals that are mentioned in this article has nothing to do with her.
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Old 01-07-2017, 08:59 AM
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The Queen expected to make appearance at Sandringham tomorrow after Christmas cold | Daily Mail Online
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:21 AM
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Odd. The Lord Chancelor "might sound odd spouting the monarch’s gracious words.
Well, the Queen reads words written by someone else, right?
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Old 01-07-2017, 09:34 AM
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Can someone save me from Ephraim Hardcastle and Sebastian Shakespeare? I know we complain about the British press in general, but these two are much worse. We need to visit the US and the Globe to find someone we can compare them with.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:14 AM
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If one were to be pedantic that list is of the countries where she is Queen de facto - there are many other countries where she is Queen de jure (and if any of them reverted to being a monarchy she would be Queen of again de facto) - South Africa, Zimbabwe, Tanganyika (not Tanzania), Uganda, Kenya, Gambia, Ghana, Nigeria, Sierra Leone, Malta, Fiji, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Ireland
Obviously, she is not Queen de jure of any of the aforementioned countries as they are all republics governed by a republican constitution that recognizes no queen or king as their Head of State. At most, she can be a pretender to the (defunct) thrones, if any, of those countries.

The Queen was, however, once de jure the Head of State of some coutries that were Commonwealth realms and later became republics. For example, she was still crowned as Queen of South Africa, Ceylon and Pakistan.
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Old 01-07-2017, 11:45 AM
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The Queen may make first public appearance in a month tomorrow at Sandringham church service. Buckingham Palace to issue statement 9.30am
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Old 01-07-2017, 12:28 PM
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Queen's ill health may prevent her from attending church on Sunday
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he Queen's ill health may again prevent her from attending church on Sunday.

The monarch has stayed out of the public eye since Christmas after being struck down with a heavy cold.

Buckingham Palace was unable to confirm whether the 90-year-old would be attending the Sunday service at Sandringham and refused to comment on Princess Anne’s assurances on New Year’s Day that the Queen was feeling “better”.

Speculation as to whether the Queen is well enough to resume her usual routine remains just that, as palace officials said her appearance will be confirmed after 9.30am on Sunday.

Queen Elizabeth broke protocol for the first time in her almost 64-year reign when she decided not to attend both her traditional Christmas and New Year's church services.
Here reign has lasted for almost 65 years, not 64.
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Old 01-07-2017, 02:38 PM
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Obviously, she is not Queen de jure of any of the aforementioned countries as they are all republics governed by a republican constitution that recognizes no queen or king as their Head of State. At most, she can be a pretender to the (defunct) thrones, if any, of those countries.
What is the difference between de jure and pretender ? She may be pretender to Ireland - but she was certainly Queen of ... all of the other countries mentioned - oh and Zambia and Malawi ... and there have been intimations about restoring the monarchy in Fiji ...
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What is the difference between de jure and pretender ? She may be pretender to Ireland - but she was certain Queen of ... all of the other countries mentioned - oh and Zambia and Malawi ... and there have been intimations about restoring the monarchy in Fiji ...

De jure basically means in law while pretender is in pretence.

The Queen is de jure Queen of the Commonwealth Realms (including Northern Ireland), and at one point in her reign was de jure Queen of most of the Commonwealth Nations that are now republics. She could be seen as a pretender to these thrones, except she doesn't actually lay claim to them. A better example of a pretender would be Franz of Bavaria, who does not claim the British throne himself but has the thrones of England (and Wales), Scotland, and Ireland claimed on his behalf by Jacobites.
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Old 01-07-2017, 05:49 PM
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The Queen, 90, may miss church AGAIN because she's still sick 'with hacking cough' - Mirror Online
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Joe Little, the managing editor of Majesty magazine, said : "I am hopeful that she will have sufficiently recovered to appear in public tomorrow and sit for an hour long service in church.

"Missing one week at church was a little bit of concern and when she didn't attend for a second week, it escalated that concern. If she missed a third week, then it would be at the alarming stage."
Can you imagine what the press would say/write, If she misses church tomorrow? And as you can see, they have already started.
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We will be seeing in the Daily Mail a retrospective of the deaths of George V & VI both died at Sandringham with some stupid headline like Is the Queen Next? Sandringham where monarchs die if the Queen doesn't appear soon.
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Old 01-07-2017, 07:23 PM
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She has already carried out the first royal engagement of the year! So hardly at deaths door! Please!
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:54 PM
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I have to give praise to the Daily Fail after they (along with the Telegraph/Times) have refrained from writing about what happens when the Queen dies. But since all the other newspapers have written about it, the mail couldn't resist:

For Queen's sake, don't close the Commons, plead MPs: Theresa May set to join revolt against plans to move government out of Westminster in case it disrupts the Queen's funeral | Daily Mail Online
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Theresa May is poised to join a revolt against plans to move MPs out of crumbling Parliament for six years – because of the disruption that would be caused to the Queen’s funeral in the event of her death during that time.

Relocating the MPs would mean closing the Palace of Westminster – including historic Westminster Hall, where by tradition monarchs, senior Royals and great political figures such as Sir Winston Churchill lie in state before their funerals.

Ministers were shocked to learn that officials had not made alternative arrangements for any lyings in state during the period the MPs are due to be away, starting in 2022.

‘This appears to be a serious flaw in the proposals,’ said a senior source.
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Old 01-09-2017, 10:05 AM
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Good article by Robert Hardman, as usual:

ROBERT HARDMAN on Queen Elizabeth's milestone no previous monarch has reached | Daily Mail Online
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It was also testimony to the pressure exerted on her by both her doctor and her family. The tiny clutch of sick notes during this record reign is a reflection of both the Queen’s strong constitution and her tendency to battle on when below par. But after her 90th birthday, it is clear that there is now a new policy on convalescence.

After all, this is an important royal year – and not just because the Queen and Prince Philip will celebrate 70 years of marriage.

For as of February 6 – the 65th anniversary of the Queen’s accession – the first Sapphire Jubilee in history will begin. Hence, no doubt, yesterday’s choice of an all-blue ensemble. Besides, as those close to the Queen point out, sapphire is also one of her favourite colours.

Six monarchs have reigned for 50 years – a Golden Jubilee – whereas only two have reached Diamond (Victoria and Elizabeth II). Sapphire is entirely uncharted territory.

Buckingham Palace is not planning any events to mark this rather charming landmark but it has already received official recognition.

The Queen has formally approved designs for jubilee coins and stamps in a number of her smaller realms and overseas territories, where the local economy can derive considerable income from special commemorative issues. The jubilee will be big business for some.

In Britain, royal staff say it will be entirely up to individuals and organisations to decide whether and how to mark this milestone. The view is that it should be low-profile but enjoyed by anyone who wants to.

One insider said: ‘The Diamond Jubilee was a very big occasion five years ago and the Queen is modest about these things.’ But if people want to organise a sapphire-themed village fete, dance, concert or carnival parade, they will do so with the royal blessing.
And HM The Queen was the picture story on many of the front pages today, as she often is:

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Off topic, but gosh what awful other Headlines.
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Off topic, but gosh what awful other Headlines.
That's the british newspapers for you.
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Oh my goodness gracious! I am so tired of this nonsense:

Russia kill the Queen in latest 'fake news' out of Moscow | Daily Mail Online

'Fake news' story Queen has died sends Russian media into frenzy | World | News | Daily Express
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My mother has just frightened me with this news, and I couldn't believe in it.Fortunately, I checked the British media and found out that it was a hoax
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