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Old 11-18-2018, 05:23 PM
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This is a pattern they have all had to endure, like it or not. Unfortunately, it comes with the territory. Anne was one of the early ones to have to endure the press criticism, even though she as a princess of the blood. Her response, guided by her father, was to focus on what matters and let her work do the talking. The rest is history. Meghan will do well to follow that.

It is suggested that she is committed to her work, and has a strong work ethic. As long as she does that, within the constraints of her position in the RF, she will be fine. Along the way, she will have to work hard to be accepted by the British people. That will mean working away in unglamorous locations, on causes that really matter to the British people. Also, patronising foreign luxury brands when on official engagements will certainly not help.
Except, apparently working hard is a problem now. Article like this are making Britain look bad if this is actually reflective of how the people think.
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Old 11-18-2018, 05:34 PM
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Except, apparently working hard is a problem. Article like this are making Britain look bad if this is actually reflective of how the people think.
The nasty vituperative articles cater to a portion of their readership, many of whom are not even British. I don’t think it reflects on Britain or all or even the majority of the British people.
Yes, there are narrow minded people out there who dislike Meghan because she is an American or divorced or an actress, is older than Harry or yes, is bi-racial.
That doesn’t make this sort of article okay, but the nasty articles about other Women who married into the Royal family were just as horrid.
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Old 11-18-2018, 06:35 PM
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I think we can agree that this is Meghan's turn in the tabloid barrel and elements in her life are giving the tabloids more to work with. The main thing is she is living up to the nickname of Tungsten and she won't give them the satisfaction of publicly crumbling. Harry chose well; having what her critics think is the "right" background is not enough. By marrying into the Firm and becoming a working royal that person has to be able to take the garbage thrown at him/her. Meghan knew what she was up against going in so she decided to take matters into her own hands and forge her royal identity and work with the staff available to her. Hacking them off is self defeating. So far I believe she has done a good job and I look forward to her future projects. The tabloids can kick rocks.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:22 PM
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I only did a fly by of the article and it was true to form Fail bird cage liner. We do get affirmation of a few things though.

1. When Meghan stated that she wanted to be known as the woman that works rather than the lady that lunches, she wasn't lying. She came into the Firm with a job to do and she's hit the ground running full steam ahead. Six months into the marriage, Meghan has already made a huge success of a cookbook to help the Hubb Kitchen and thoroughly wowed on her first overseas tour. On top of that, she did all this (and more) at the onset of a pregnancy.

2. The celebrity angle. I don't know how many of you have noticed besides me that the Royal Foundation projects often encourage "big" names and faces to be ambassadors for their projects. The more backing these projects get, the more likely that what the project hopes to do reaches more people. We see it all that time that Harry's relationship with the Obamas have been a reciprocal backing of each other's endeavors but Meghan's friendship's with well known people is to be sneered at? I think not.

3. No one has picked on her freckles yet. Perhaps freckles are something that people have and not worth noticing. Gotta go after the things that make a person "lesser" than royal or British or sometimes, even human. To me, when they pick an area of Meghan's person to demean, there's probably a whole lot of people that identify with that area of Meghan's person and it is also a slam and a slur against them also. The Fail commentators are renown for their ability to trash and demean and wear out the word "sponger" but I think if we look closely at these kind of articles, the slurs they put onto Meghan could be written about any one of us. These articles are written to incite negativity and to be totally honest, the person being written about could be anyone.

And so it goes. The Fail is a dying breed of a publication and they're running on fumes exhaled by negative people.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:44 PM
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Well buckle up fellow forum members, someone has finally discovered the implications of Meghan's IRS problem. Gee, were we not all nattering on about how her tax would impact the entire BRF. Well, it seems possible that they have hit the great wall if the snarling online is to be believed.

Her income is interest on her own money and the part of the allowance that The Prince of Wales gives Harry to run his household. Oh, and they want the details of her wardrobe including that which she purchased herself, Harry gifted her, paid for by POW and let's not forget the "working wardrobe", accommodation paid for by Harry and Nott Cott paid for by HM, cars paid for by either or both of them. Jewellery, both wedding presents and purchases and the value of every borrowed piece as well, tiara, chandelier earrings. etc.

So, all those things we thought the BRF and their well paid financial gurus had under control however they are evidently digging deep and want the Duchy of Cornwall's proof, the Duchy of Lancaster's proof and the kicker, how treasury works it's input and how much trickles down to Meghan and then, of course, there's the cost of security from the Constabulary . . . .

Oh dear, oh darn. Maybe the government will give her citizenship as a belated wedding present.
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Old 11-18-2018, 08:51 PM
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And we thought the Fail had all the vultures!!
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:22 PM
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Marg...what is the source of that online snarling about Meghan's IRS filing? Wouldn't that information be private and confidential? I can't believe that the royals would not have sought US tax advice when Harry and Meghan became engaged.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:46 PM
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Well, if they figure it out now, they are still in time to make sure their child doesn't have the same issue from birth.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:49 PM
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The idea that Kate was somehow exempted from much tabloid criticism in the UK after she married could be the most incredible historical revisionism I've seen on this board.

Kate was and is criticised for almost everything she is/does/says, including after the wedding. Criticism was also heavy on this board. From her hair, to her make up, her too-short skirts, her boring shoes, her posture, her expressions, her public speaking, her work ethic, 'Waity Katie', her closeness with her own family, the way she gets in and out of cars - the list goes on and on. For all these things she has been attacked. Let's also not forget she was the victim of a terrible invasion of privacy when photos of her sunbathing topless were splashed all over the media and the internet, after she was married.

All this is before we consider the attacks on her family. Pippa alone was followed and photographed hundreds of times each and every day by paps for years. Kate's parents have been attacked as being money-grubbing exploiters of their daughter's fame and snobbish social climbers. Each and every career setback of Kate's brother is covered in detail in the tabloids.

Meghan will get a rough time from the tabloids but so does every other member of the BRF, including the Queen (remember The Sun publishing photos of a tiny Princess Elizabeth doing a 'Nazi salute' on its from page?) Meghan is simply going to have to learn to live it.
I am not going to get into this about Kate vs Meghan, but there are some of us who HAVE been around for years and do remember the Kate coverage back in the early days onward so many of us have our stances precisely because we have been royal watching for years and years---they just may be a different stance than yours.
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Old 11-18-2018, 09:52 PM
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Well buckle up fellow forum members, someone has finally discovered the implications of Meghan's IRS problem. Gee, were we not all nattering on about how her tax would impact the entire BRF. Well, it seems possible that they have hit the great wall if the snarling online is to be believed.

Her income is interest on her own money and the part of the allowance that The Prince of Wales gives Harry to run his household. Oh, and they want the details of her wardrobe including that which she purchased herself, Harry gifted her, paid for by POW and let's not forget the "working wardrobe", accommodation paid for by Harry and Nott Cott paid for by HM, cars paid for by either or both of them. Jewellery, both wedding presents and purchases and the value of every borrowed piece as well, tiara, chandelier earrings. etc.

So, all those things we thought the BRF and their well paid financial gurus had under control however they are evidently digging deep and want the Duchy of Cornwall's proof, the Duchy of Lancaster's proof and the kicker, how treasury works it's input and how much trickles down to Meghan and then, of course, there's the cost of security from the Constabulary . . . .

Oh dear, oh darn. Maybe the government will give her citizenship as a belated wedding present.
This is NOT true. I wish the tabloids would just leave the tax situation to experts and stick to what they know best, which is not tax matters. I've written an extensive post on this issue before addressing the basics. Let me see if I can remember which thread it's in. And btw, all of this is known to the BRF and the government before the engagement is announced. They wouldn't be doing this without having sought proper advice from professionals from the very onset.

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Well, if they figure it out now, they are still in time to make sure their child doesn't have the same issue from birth.
That's up to the government, not Meghan. I always thought it's odd that they went the way they did, and I get that some will be up in arms about it because it's special treatment. Well damn, they are royals for God's sake. They aren't the same. Normal people don't go on foreign tours and take on domestic engagements representing the Queen. This is only going to provide a slow drip drip drip of tabloid fodder for years to come.
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Old 11-18-2018, 10:21 PM
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This is NOT true. I wish the tabloids would just leave the tax situation to experts and stick to what they know best, which is not tax matters. I've written an extensive post on this issue before addressing the basics. Let me see if I can remember which thread it's in. And btw, all of this is known to the BRF and the government before the engagement is announced. They wouldn't be doing this without having sought proper advice from professionals from the very onset.
I have read two separate stories about this today in general forums and entertainment news. Perhaps we used our intelligence and sorted it out way back then and I have no doubt it is not true.

However, the reason I raised the issue instead of going "what a load of old cobblers" and moving on was to inform my fellow forum members that someone somewhere has started discussing exactly what we did months ago and it would mean this is going to be the next thing to beat up on Meghan about.

The Internal dealings of two Royal Duchies and the Government, hmm I think there are many people who will get their knickers in a knot over the "idea" of this, never mind the truth, as always it's the headlines that are the click bait.

To be honest, though, a large part of one article definitely sounded familiar and wondered if a few of our posts had been plagiarised, particularly one that raised all the abovementioned possible problems. But as for honesty, since when have the tabloids cared.
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Old 11-18-2018, 10:50 PM
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BTW, wasn't there published information on the Duchies regardless? I seem to recall that when the financials were published this year, some RRs made a note that Duchy of Lancaster has kept it promise and divested of its interest in some of the funds that they were investing in that had tax avoidance structures. Not all of it yet, but it's in progress. That tells me at least some information are public anyways. Also, the short answer is no, they wouldn't get access to information on Duchies. Notice how all the articles say "could"? I COULD win the lottery. Doesn't mean it's likely.

And really, if anyone wants to get upset about it, there is a VERY easy solution. But it's not something Meghan could do.
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:08 PM
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Well buckle up fellow forum members, someone has finally discovered the implications of Meghan's IRS problem. Gee, were we not all nattering on about how her tax would impact the entire BRF. Well, it seems possible that they have hit the great wall if the snarling online is to be believed.

Her income is interest on her own money and the part of the allowance that The Prince of Wales gives Harry to run his household. Oh, and they want the details of her wardrobe including that which she purchased herself, Harry gifted her, paid for by POW and let's not forget the "working wardrobe", accommodation paid for by Harry and Nott Cott paid for by HM, cars paid for by either or both of them. Jewellery, both wedding presents and purchases and the value of every borrowed piece as well, tiara, chandelier earrings. etc.

So, all those things we thought the BRF and their well paid financial gurus had under control however they are evidently digging deep and want the Duchy of Cornwall's proof, the Duchy of Lancaster's proof and the kicker, how treasury works it's input and how much trickles down to Meghan and then, of course, there's the cost of security from the Constabulary . . . .

Oh dear, oh darn. Maybe the government will give her citizenship as a belated wedding present.
Didn't the Daily Mail writes the same thing last year?
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:10 PM
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Well buckle up fellow forum members, someone has finally discovered the implications of Meghan's IRS problem. Gee, were we not all nattering on about how her tax would impact the entire BRF. Well, it seems possible that they have hit the great wall if the snarling online is to be believed.

Her income is interest on her own money and the part of the allowance that The Prince of Wales gives Harry to run his household. Oh, and they want the details of her wardrobe including that which she purchased herself, Harry gifted her, paid for by POW and let's not forget the "working wardrobe", accommodation paid for by Harry and Nott Cott paid for by HM, cars paid for by either or both of them. Jewellery, both wedding presents and purchases and the value of every borrowed piece as well, tiara, chandelier earrings. etc.

So, all those things we thought the BRF and their well paid financial gurus had under control however they are evidently digging deep and want the Duchy of Cornwall's proof, the Duchy of Lancaster's proof and the kicker, how treasury works it's input and how much trickles down to Meghan and then, of course, there's the cost of security from the Constabulary . . . .

Oh dear, oh darn. Maybe the government will give her citizenship as a belated wedding present.
Well, you knew that was coming. Honestly, I'm so puzzled by the decision to not expedite her citizenship to avoid all this. I'm sure there would have been rumblings about her being treated specially, but so what? One way or the other there was going to be gossip-fodder. At least try to control the narrative.
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:14 PM
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Didn't the Daily Mail writes the same thing last year?
There were a number of articles around the time of the engagement and then again around the time of the wedding.
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Old 11-18-2018, 11:15 PM
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This is NOT true. I wish the tabloids would just leave the tax situation to experts and stick to what they know best, which is not tax matters. I've written an extensive post on this issue before addressing the basics. Let me see if I can remember which thread it's in. And btw, all of this is known to the BRF and the government before the engagement is announced. They wouldn't be doing this without having sought proper advice from professionals from the very onset.
It was Post #972 on the Meghan Markle Religious Conversion and Citizenship thread. Excellent information and very pertinent. Thank you again to jacqui24 for taking the time to explain.
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Old 11-19-2018, 12:24 AM
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I will say it again...the BIGGEST difference between Meghan and all the other British royal brides before her who were also older, foreign born, divorced, had their own professional career etc is that Meghan is BIRACIAL and her mother is BLACK!!!!! I do not underestimate that RACISM plays a part in the negative media narrative against Meghan. But the cowardly and hypocritical British press, especially the tabloids, aren't as racially blatant since Prince Harry issued that unprecedented statement in November 2016 so they are now using different tactics!
In total agreement with your assessment. And I could add, how many royals have their Wikipedia page locked because of vandalism. One can only imagine the vile write ups that have been added, if one looks at the vile KP Instagram posts as a yardstick.

As far as her taxes are concerned She is going to file what what she is going to file period. What the IRS gonna do? Send inspectors to audit a foreign government. Duchy of Cornwall? Duchy of Lancester? You people are out of your mind. Keep steering the pot this is so transparent it is not even funny anymore.
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Old 11-19-2018, 01:20 AM
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So I read the article-much of it is ridiculous. “Meghan is raising eyebrows wearing a black tuxedo and skirts above her knees.” Umm, no, neither of those things is something new.
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Of course the article is ridiculous. It's peppered with snide little comments all the way through, inviting its readers to disapprove of 'this American who's trying to change everything.' I've no doubt the DF and the Sunday Fail are following an editorial agenda.

In the six months since Meghan married Harry it's been around one semi-favourable article to about half a dozen negative ones in the tabloid Press, especially the DM. They don't attack Harry as much as his wife because he remains very popular with the British public, but Meghan is the interloper and therefore considered fair game.
Well yeah, but that was my point. The DF headline and blurb portend something really seismic and negative, and then there's just nothing to it but clearly ridiculous and probably made-up and exaggerated statements about nothing that's actually damning, negative, or unusual.

As I mentioned in another thread, the press got used to overloading on pictures and stories of Meghan every day during the South Pacific tour. And M&H followers were clicking on news items with gusto. The Sussexes are now back into their London and Cotswolds routine of lying very low under-the-radar, aside from occasional public events. Therefore, the tabs have absolutely got to come up with something to keep people in M&H withdrawal clicking away, even if it's faux news.

And of course, since the tour was highly successful and favorable toward Meghan, it's no surprise that negative stories are cropping up from a number of quarters attempting to 'knock Meghan down.' It doesn't work because there's no legitimacy to any of the negativitiy.
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Oh dear, oh darn. Maybe the government will give her citizenship as a belated wedding present.

I thought so, too.... LOL.
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Old 11-19-2018, 03:06 AM
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Well, you knew that was coming. Honestly, I'm so puzzled by the decision to not expedite her citizenship to avoid all this. I'm sure there would have been rumblings about her being treated specially, but so what? One way or the other there was going to be gossip-fodder. At least try to control the narrative.
Exactly. That whole thing just didn’t seem like a well thought out idea despite the best of intentions. I’m sure they consulted experts in legal and financial areas, that’s not what I’d be concerned about. What I’m concerned about is this is leading to tabloid tax experts and all kinds of speculations and conspiracy theories. Might as well just have taken the hit at once and put the kabosh on the whole thing. Complete unnecessary fodder.
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