British Royal Family Current Events 9: January 2017 - July 2018 - Page 28

Pranter · #**541** 02-19-2018, 03:43 PM

Still haven't seen a pic of Beatrice's dress.

LaRae

Rudolph · #**542** 02-19-2018, 03:44 PM

Apparently it’s also Erdem. You can see it in the video.

Pranter · #**543** 02-19-2018, 03:57 PM

Yes seems like everyone except Sophie wore Erdem tonight...including Wintour.

I can't make out much in the video when it comes to Beatrice's dress.

LaRae

**An Ard Ri** · #**544** 02-19-2018, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pranter

And I don't care for Ms Wintour's dress at all.

LaRae

Isn't she Dame Anna Wintour now

Pranter · #**545** 02-19-2018, 04:54 PM

Yeah no idea. Not that interested in her.

LaRae

**iceflower** · #**546** 02-19-2018, 05:03 PM

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Here's a gallery of today's reception:

** pa gallery: Commonwealth Fashion Exchange **

Rudolph · #**547** 02-19-2018, 06:58 PM

Catherine’s engagement tonight made the front pages of The Times, The Telegraph and The Daily Mail.

PetticoatLane · #**548** 02-19-2018, 07:13 PM

This is the BRF at its best IMO. Using its clout and influence to get the Anna Wintour and a collective of women using traditional techniques from the Cook Islands in the same room. A fantastic opportunity for designers from really far flung parts of the world. They should do something like this more often.

People on this forum moan about it all the time but events like these are much more important than going to fancy banquets on the Continent with royals the British people have never heard of.

I know why it didn't happen but this would've been a lovely event for Meghan to dip her toes into royal events apart from Harry.

Pranter · #**549** 02-19-2018, 07:18 PM

This type of event is something I would want to attend. I had the same thought about Meghan ..it would of been neat for her to be able to attend as well.

LaRae

Iluvbertie · #**550** 02-19-2018, 07:25 PM

Until she is actually a royal that would be a no-no. Her precedence means she would have been a nobody there. That will change but at the moment she doesn't have the same clout.

I was pleased to see Kate enter first as it shows the difference between public and private precedence that people seem to not understand. Has this been at Sandringham then Beatrice would take precedence as the Princess born but in public she comes third - behind Willam's wife and the wife of a son of the monarch not based on her position in the line of succession.

RoyalHighness 2002 · #**551** 02-19-2018, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

Until she is actually a royal that would be a no-no. Her precedence means she would have been a nobody there. That will change but at the moment she doesn't have the same clout.

I was pleased to see Kate enter first as it shows the difference between public and private precedence that people seem to not understand. Has this been at Sandringham then Beatrice would take precedence as the Princess born but in public she comes third - behind Willam's wife and the wife of a son of the monarch not based on her position in the line of succession.

So public precedence is based upon the line of succession now while private precedence is the traditional list?

Also, I was surprised the Royal Family's Twitter actually gave Princess Beatrice credit. Usually when she's attending these receptions, they won't or she will get a tiny picture.
https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/stat...25379548844033

Pranter · #**552** 02-19-2018, 07:42 PM

So if she were already married would Meghan come before or after Sophie?

LaRae

Rudolph · #**553** 02-19-2018, 07:50 PM

Here’s tonight’s invitation. You’ll notice Catherine’s name is first. Another little nod to precedence.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWbHntVW4AAxNJh.jpg

PetticoatLane · #**554** 02-19-2018, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

Until she is actually a royal that would be a no-no. Her precedence means she would have been a nobody there. That will change but at the moment she doesn't have the same clout.

I acknowledged that I understood why it didn't happen but it would've been the perfect engagement for Meghan as she builds relationships with the other members of the family and gets used to the set up of a BP reception.

She could've joined the guests say 10 minutes before Kate and Sophie, no need to enter at the same time as them. The Queen wasn't attending so there was probably a more relaxed atmosphere.

Just because things have traditionally been done in a certain way doesn't mean they can't be changed - The Queen is a master at that, hence Meghan at Sandringham for Xmas.

Iluvbertie · #**555** 02-19-2018, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RoyalHighness 2002

So public precedence is based upon the line of succession now while private precedence is the traditional list?

Also, I was surprised the Royal Family's Twitter actually gave Princess Beatrice credit. Usually when she's attending these receptions, they won't or she will get a tiny picture.
https://twitter.com/RoyalFamily/stat...25379548844033

No public precedence is more complicated than simple line of succession.

Sophie came in ahead of Beatrice due to the fact that she is the wife of a son of the monarch and so takes precedence ahead of a granddaughter of the monarch even though that granddaughter is higher in the line of succession than her husband.

Private precedence is set by the monarch of the day - and in 2005 the Queen changed it so that Princesses born royal take precedence ahead of those who marry it.

As this was a public event public precedence applied but had it been a private event then Beatrice would have taken precedence rather than being the last one in.

Ever since it was announced that the Queen had changed the precedence rules for women only events when in private people have been arguing about what it meant and some have even said it would apply whenever there are just women present. This event clearly shows the difference between public and private ... in public Kate comes first, in private Beatrice comes first (and as soon as there is a man present it is different again with the women taking their precedence as if all men were present.

ACO · #**556** 02-19-2018, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudolph

Catherine is the senior royal. A video of the entrance. It’s Kate followed by Sophie and then Beatrice

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoyalRepo...092800/video/1

Yep. Though from most accounts it would seem it was Sophie who was actually the most engaging of the night. Not that I am really all that surprised.

Nice to see the three of them together though. I enjoy seeing that.

Rudolph · #**557** 02-19-2018, 08:14 PM

Apparently Beatrice got a mention in the Court Circular for tonight’s engagement.

Miracle of Miracles

ACO · #**558** 02-19-2018, 08:20 PM

They not working royals but I am glad they getting official recognition. It is a shame though because Beatrice and Eugenie should be working royals and I will never understand why they are not. They pushed for the sins of their parents and two young blood princesses out there would be a plus for this family, but whatever.

Rudolph · #**559** 02-19-2018, 08:24 PM

Catherine chats with Stella McCartney and Anna Wintour. Not often I see Ms Wintour smiling lol.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/20...9073822308.jpg

Spheno · #**560** 02-19-2018, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie

Until she is actually a royal that would be a no-no. Her precedence means she would have been a nobody there. That will change but at the moment she doesn't have the same clout.

I was pleased to see Kate enter first as it shows the difference between public and private precedence that people seem to not understand. Has this been at Sandringham then Beatrice would take precedence as the Princess born but in public she comes third - behind Willam's wife and the wife of a son of the monarch not based on her position in the line of succession.

This event says nothing about princess Beatrice's place in public and private precedence. Catherine and Sophie were hosts of this event, Beatrice helped them.