Princess Victoria ("Toria"), daughter of Edward VII & Queen Alexandra (1868-1935)

[Roderick]

Alexandra and Edward [to a lesser extent as he was known to acquiesce to his wife's wishes where their children were concerned] are said to have rejected two prospective suitors of Victoria for reason that they were commoners.

[Vasillisos Markos]

But did Victoria have any royal suitors? It seems to me that Alexandra decided that Toria would never marry with her permission but perhaps I am wrong; maybe the "right" man did not come along.

[Gravis]

I've heard that she changed her religion around 1917.
Do you know anything about?

[Iluvbertie]

Originally Posted by Gravis

I've heard that she changed her religion around 1917.
Do you know anything about?

I have never heard anything about this.

As she never lost her place in the line of succession she never converted to Roman Catholicism.

She had an Anglican funeral at St Georges Chapel at Windsor so I would assume that she remained Anglican throughout her life.

[pgm1952]

I have just finished reading John Van Der Kiste's "Edward VII's Children" and he tells some amazing stories about Princess Victoria.

Some familiar (the one about her call to her brother the king and instead getting the operator) and others more new to me. For example, she apparently took to liking whisky after her mother's death and so did her chauffeur. To hide the smell he used extra strong mints; one day she protested to him, not about his drinking but the smell of the mints!

Another touching one was two soldiers were injured near a house she was staying at and they were taken there where, not only did she attend to the first aide, but she arranged for them to see their regiment march past their window when the two were in hospital.

[CyrilVladisla]

In a Royal Profile, it mentioned Princess Victoria "devoted herself to her main recreations of music, gardening and photography - an interest she inherited from her parents".

[Beberoyal]

I have read that Pv grew quite bitter and unpleasant later on, due to hating her life as outlined by her mother. Everyone knew that her mother would create roadblocks indefinitely to keep at least one girl from marrying and at the time, Maude was developing various crushes, which were unsuitable, so it was determined she would get married, and Victoria knew then she was stuck forever with her childish, possessive mother. Edward VII never dared interfere, due to his own "lifestyle". So she became a victim of her mother's selfishness and father's philandering, really. After QV had married a daughter to a subject, that excuse was gone, so she could have married. In fact, oldest sister Louise married an Earl (18 years older), many say just to be sure she escaped Alexandria.

[CyrilVladisla]

Princess Victoria collected autographs.
She had an autograph of her first cousin, Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany.
She had an autograph of Emperor Hirohito of Japan.
She had an autograph of Woodrow Wilson of the United States.

In The Royal Victorians, Christopher Hibbert wrote:

On Princess Victoria's birthday a children's party was given each year by the King and Queen at Buckingham Palace where balloons were shot up into the sky and, on bursting, discharged presents all over the lawn while excited children raced about to pick them up.

Princess Victoria with her dog Mac on board the royal yacht Victoria and Albert in 1908
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-pr...-17642174.html

[Durham]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Princess Victoria collected autographs.
She had an autograph of her first cousin, Emperor Wilhelm II of Germany.
She had an autograph of Emperor Hirohito of Japan.
She had an autograph of Woodrow Wilson of the United States.

In The Royal Victorians, Christopher Hibbert wrote:

On Princess Victoria's birthday a children's party was given each year by the King and Queen at Buckingham Palace where balloons were shot up into the sky and, on bursting, discharged presents all over the lawn while excited children raced about to pick them up.

Just noticed this when looking on here.....

I was given an old book as a child called "The Story of 25 Eventful Years" about George V's jubilee. It had a picture of what you have described happening on the garden front side of the palace. I can distinctly remember an elephant being one of the toys in the air. I never knew up until now exactly what was going on in the image.

I wonder what happened to the book.

[CyrilVladisla]

Durham, Would a library in your area have The Story of 25 Eventful Years? Who was the author?

[Durham]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Durham, Would a library in your area have The Story of 25 Eventful Years? Who was the author?

There's no copies, even a reference book, at any library in my county according to a search on their catalogue.

Just looking there seem to be lots of copies available to buy from various internet sites. I'm not sure of the author but it was published by Oldhams Press Ltd, Long Acre W2 London 1935.

I can include some links if you would like.

[CyrilVladisla]

Originally Posted by Durham

There's no copies, even a reference book, at any library in my county according to a search on their catalogue.

Just looking there seem to be lots of copies available to buy from various internet sites. I'm not sure of the author but it was published by Oldhams Press Ltd, Long Acre W2 London 1935.

I can include some links if you would like.

Durham, Please include some links.

[Durham]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Durham, Please include some links.

This is the right book. I'm absolutely sure of it.

Compiled by WJ Makin.

The other book I referenced has a very similar title but is not the one I had a youngster.

https://www.abebooks.co.uk/story-Twe...15057584394/bd

[CyrilVladisla]

Princess Victoria and her mother Queen Alexandra on Alexandra Rose Day on June 21, 1916
http://www.alamy.com/queen-alexandra...359826141.html

[Roderick]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Princess Victoria and her mother Queen Alexandra on Alexandra Rose Day on June 21, 1916
http://www.alamy.com/queen-alexandra...359826141.html

Sorry to contradict, but the photo is not labelled correctly. That's Louise, Princess Royal, next to her mother. "Toria" might be sitting on the other side.

[Blog Real]

Princess Victoria of Wales (left) as a teenager, together with her sisters Maud (centre) and Louise (right).
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Prior_Hall.jpg

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by Beberoyal

I have read that Pv grew quite bitter and unpleasant later on, due to hating her life as outlined by her mother. Everyone knew that her mother would create roadblocks indefinitely to keep at least one girl from marrying and at the time, Maude was developing various crushes, which were unsuitable, so it was determined she would get married, and Victoria knew then she was stuck forever with her childish, possessive mother. Edward VII never dared interfere, due to his own "lifestyle". So she became a victim of her mother's selfishness and father's philandering, really. After QV had married a daughter to a subject, that excuse was gone, so she could have married. In fact, oldest sister Louise married an Earl (18 years older), many say just to be sure she escaped Alexandria.

I don’t think it was an issue of marrying a subject, but simply the fact that after Louise, Duchess of Argyll’s experience in her marriage with a husband who was actually gay, I don’t think the family were willing to let Toria marry a Scottish peer who might not have consummated the marriage. The difference with the Duchess of Fife was that he might have been a subject, but he was very rich. The 5th Earl Roseberry was interested in her.

Originally Posted by Vasillisos Markos

But did Victoria have any royal suitors? It seems to me that Alexandra decided that Toria would never marry with her permission but perhaps I am wrong; maybe the "right" man did not come along.

Some of the Romanovs were interested in her. Crown Prince Christian X of Denmark was interested, but she rejected him. King Carlos I of Portugal was interested in her and was demanding she convert for him, and of course her parents and herself didn’t or couldn’t accept that.

[CyrilVladisla]

Who were some of the Romanov Grand Dukes who were interested in Princess Victoria?

[SirGyamfi1]

Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla

Who were some of the Romanov Grand Dukes who were interested in Princess Victoria?

Before he was married the future Emperor, Nicholas II, his close friend Grand Duke Alexander Mikhailovich was also interested and Grand Duke Michael Alexandrovich were interested in her at different points in time.

[Prinsara]

I don't think Christian was interested in her considering their siblings later married. There would have been ample time, opportunity and encouragement, so even having her own life and being Queen of Denmark wasn't enough to do it for Toria — but I think the lack of interest was mutual.

She was clearly unhappy and probably unhealthily so, but she was pretty close to her nephew (left him Coppins) and very much to her brother ("hello, you old bugger").