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I tried watching the new film about Mary but it was too awful. I had to stop.
As much as I love Saoirse it was truly dreadful and I too turned it off
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As much as I love Saoirse it was truly dreadful and I too turned it off
Yes she's a great actor! There's a charming & funny clip of her pronouncing Irish names for the American chat show host Stephen Colbert:



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I tried watching the new film about Mary but it was too awful. I had to stop.
I saw one about a year ago on TV, but it was dire..
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Old 01-13-2021, 06:52 PM
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At least you saw it on TV. I wasted £4.99 on seeing it at the pictures! It really was dire.
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Old 01-13-2021, 06:57 PM
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At least you saw it on TV. I wasted £4.99 on seeing it at the pictures! It really was dire.
That's not too bad, costs a lot more in London to go to the cinema. I taped the show but (if its the one with Saoirse Ronan) it was so diabolically bad that I deleted it after half an hour. I think even if I'd gone to the cinema i might have walked out....
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At least you saw it on TV. I wasted £4.99 on seeing it at the pictures! It really was dire.
I don't mind a bit of artistic licence but they had basic but important facts wrong.
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I tried watching the new film about Mary but it was too awful. I had to stop.
I am obsessed with the Queen of Scots and have devoured everything about her life since I was a girl of about 13 yrs old.

I was ECSTATIC when i first heard about this film but after reading reviews online and from friends who saw it NO THANKS.

So disappointed.
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I am obsessed with the Queen of Scots and have devoured everything about her life since I was a girl of about 13 yrs old.

I was ECSTATIC when i first heard about this film but after reading reviews online and from friends who saw it NO THANKS.

So disappointed.
As somebody who has read a great deal about her life you would be disappointed with the film.
I love walking round Stirling castle ,it is so hard to believe we are walking where she once lived, also her son.
I love history.
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I was going to pay to see this movie online but after the reviews here, I think I'll give it a miss. Even though overly fictionalized history, I did enjoy "Reign" on Netflix.
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I love walking round Stirling castle ,it is so hard to believe we are walking where she once lived, also her son.
I think Sterling too was a dower property of her mother Marie de Guise and Mary lived her during the early years of her life.
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I am now quite sure what your meaning of dower property is, but yes she would have at times been in attendance at Stirling. As you will already know she was the Regent for a period of time.
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As somebody who has read a great deal about her life you would be disappointed with the film.
I love walking round Stirling castle ,it is so hard to believe we are walking where she once lived, also her son.
I love history.
Oh, you are SO lucky to be able to walk around Stirling Castle....I would go into orbit!

ETA...I was such a MQoS fangirl as a child I planned to name my firstborn son STIRLING..I kid you not!!
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I am now quite sure what your meaning of dower property is, but yes she would have at times been in attendance at Stirling. As you will already know she was the Regent for a period of time.
The Queen Regent was left a number of dower lands/properties by her husband James V to support her in her widowhood. Falkland was another one though I don't think Marie de Guise liked that residence as James V had died there.
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For her marriage to Henry, Lord Darnley, Mary, Queen of Scots had a papal dispensation from Rome. The dispensation was necessary because Mary and Henry were step-first cousins.
Mary and Darnley were both grandchildren of Margaret Tudor, Mary from her first husband and Darnley from her second. You could call them half cousins as they shared "blood" - "steps" have no blood tie.


Margaret Tudor > James V > Mary
Margaret > Margaret Douglas Countess of Lennox > Henry Stuart Lord Darnley
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The Queen Regent was left a number of dower lands/properties by her husband James V to support her in her widowhood. Falkland was another one though I don't think Marie de Guise liked that residence as James V had died there.
Marie had the benefit of two sets of dower lands, which allowed her to support her daughter quite well while in France (as well as money from the French king). As well as the lands and income in Scotland, she still maintained dower lands from her first husband.

Stirling, Falkland and Linlithgow were all part of her dower lands.


During her husband's life time Falkland was her favorite. She over saw a great deal of building work including adding a real tennis court to the home. This changed after the death of her husband. Stirling would become her main home after his death.


Dower lands were pretty standard in royal marriage contracts. Lands provided to the bride on case of being widowed, to support their household. Some women would retire to them, others lived off their income.
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Marie also had dower lands in France from her 1st marriage to Louis d'Orléans, duc de Longueville .

Later Mary Queen of Scots would also have dower lands in France too.
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Read this article about Mary...
https://historystories123.blogspot.c...t-to.html#more
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