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Old 03-20-2020, 07:42 AM
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Her dad did screw her over by essentially making her a spinster, which is sad. If Henry had tried her could have married her to some minor French noble and had 5 grandsons by the time he died.
No need for a French noble. The answer to his heir problem was to the north.

Henry VIII should have arranged for Mary to marry James V of Scotland her cousin before he divorced Catherine. Mary and James could have had children, providing Henry with grandchildren plus adding the throne of Scotland to England. If from future marriages Henry had a son, no harm done, but his direct line could have continued through the Stewarts.
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A generation later, it was suggested that the future Edward VI could marry Mary, Queen of Scots, but the Scots weren't keen as they thought it'd mean an English takeover … but they said something along the lines of "If our lass were a lad and your lad were a lass", so maybe they'd have considered a marriage between James V and Mary. I'm not convinced, though: Scotland thought its best course of action was to stick to the Auld Alliance with France, so they wanted James to have a French bride.

Henry should have found Mary a husband, though. If he was worried about a foreign match, there were plenty of English dukes and earls with royal blood, given how many children Edward III had, and they wouldn't have been as bothered that her legitimacy was in doubt after Henry declared his marriage to Catherine invalid.
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Edward Courtenay, 1st Earl of Devon was a cousin of Mary I and was himself a descendant of King Edward IV.He was imprisoned by Henry VIII but survived and a favourite of his cousin,queen Mary and also Roman Catholic.However Mary rejected his suit and married Philip II of Spain and the Earl was later implicated in plots against the queen and found himself once again in the Tower of London.He was later released and died in exile in Padua in 1556 aged just 29.

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A generation later, it was suggested that the future Edward VI could marry Mary, Queen of Scots, but the Scots weren't keen as they thought it'd mean an English takeover … but they said something along the lines of "If our lass were a lad and your lad were a lass", so maybe they'd have considered a marriage between James V and Mary. I'm not convinced, though: Scotland thought its best course of action was to stick to the Auld Alliance with France, so they wanted James to have a French bride.

Henry should have found Mary a husband, though. If he was worried about a foreign match, there were plenty of English dukes and earls with royal blood, given how many children Edward III had, and they wouldn't have been as bothered that her legitimacy was in doubt after Henry declared his marriage to Catherine invalid.
I don't think that there was much prospect of Mary's marrying into Scotlnd.. but if she married an English nobleman that would be the very situation that henry wanted to avoid, soemthign that would stir up jealousy among the nobles... and infighting or even civil war.
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After Philip of Spain married Queen Mary I, he would be called "King of England". All official documents, including Parliamentary minutes, would be signed by both King Philip and Queen Mary.
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That was for Mary's lifetime only, see the Act for the Marriage of Queen Mary to Philip of Spain below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_fo...hilip_of_Spain

Philip was also King of Ireland ; 25th of July 1554 –17th of November 1558
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