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Old 06-30-2018, 09:30 PM
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Did Queen Alexandra try to influence her husband's family and British ministers to favor Greek and Danish interests?

King Edward VII at the inauguration of a new dock at Cardiff.
https://www.gettyimages.com/license/501386701

Queen Alexandra on the roller coaster at the Franco-British Exhibition in London in 1908.
https://www.gettyimages.com/license/929998618

QueenPenny and Moonmaiden23, thank you for your interest. Queen Alexandra took her tour duties seriously.
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Old 07-08-2018, 02:37 AM
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Did Queen Alexandra try to influence her husband's family and British ministers to favor Greek and Danish interests?
I seem to remember that Alexandra had supported Denmark in the Schleswig war of 1864, which irritated her mother-in-law, Queen Victoria, who decided to support Germany. Nevertheless though, I don't believe that Alexandra tried to have any political influence.
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Old 08-25-2018, 05:39 PM
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The Museum of Freemasonry will next month put jewels owned by Edward VII, who was Grand Master before he ascended to the throne on display for the British public, explaining in full for the first time his long term relationship with the brothers.

The exhibition will see some his personal jewels, left to the museum after his death, put on display to the wider public for the first time, in an effort to tell the story of how he used his membership to mix more widely with society than he could in royal life.

Around 150 jewels, including those once owned by the Duke of Connaught, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Rudyard Kipling, will also go on display in what the museum calls the “first major exhibition of masonic jewels in the UK”.
Read more: Freemasons open the door to the public as they reveal details about King Edward VII’s time as grandmaster
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Old 08-26-2018, 11:44 PM
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Great picture CyrilVladisla!
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Old 08-27-2018, 12:40 AM
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That is an amazing photograph...I had no idea it even existed!
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Old 09-08-2018, 05:41 PM
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Hmmm interesting dress, it says that it was probably created between 1908 - 1910. The dress is black, I wonder if it is just a fancy black dress or if she was in mourning.
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I am currently reading "Letters to Vicky", a book of letters between Queen Victoria and her daughter Princess Vicky. Having read several books on British Royalty, I have been able to keep the familial relationship between the British Royal Family at that time and the other Royal families straight. But there is one that is driving me crazy. In one of the letters Queen Augusta of Prussia is mad at Princess Alexandra (wife of the future Edward VII) for not calling her "Aunt". Why? Was Augusta the aunt of Alexandra by blood or marriage? I missed something somewhere.
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Old 05-01-2019, 08:09 PM
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I am currently reading "Letters to Vicky", a book of letters between Queen Victoria and her daughter Princess Vicky. Having read several books on British Royalty, I have been able to keep the familial relationship between the British Royal Family at that time and the other Royal families straight. But there is one that is driving me crazy. In one of the letters Queen Augusta of Prussia is mad at Princess Alexandra (wife of the future Edward VII) for not calling her "Aunt". Why? Was Augusta the aunt of Alexandra by blood or marriage? I missed something somewhere.
No, the Empress wasn't Alexandra's aunt. I'm guessing Augusta wanted to be called aunt because it would indicate a closeness between the two families. But Alexandra and the Danish Royal family despised Prussia because Prussia took the duchies of Schleswig-Holstein from Denmark. Alexandra kept the Prussian Royal family at arm's length. Needless to say she despised her husband's nephew Emperor William II.
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Old 05-01-2019, 09:21 PM
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No, the Empress wasn't Alexandra's aunt. I'm guessing Augusta wanted to be called aunt because it would indicate a closeness between the two families. But Alexandra and the Danish Royal family despised Prussia because Prussia took the duchies of Schleswig-Holstein from Denmark. Alexandra kept the Prussian Royal family at arm's length. Needless to say she despised her husband's nephew Emperor William II.
Thank you. I knew I didn't remember reading about any familial ties.
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Old 05-01-2019, 10:14 PM
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duchessrachel, At first I thought Queen Augusta of Prussia was originally from Holstein-Gottorp. However, after research I learned she was from Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. Her mother was a Grand Duchess of Russia.
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Old 05-02-2019, 04:14 PM
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duchessrachel, At first I thought Queen Augusta of Prussia was originally from Holstein-Gottorp. However, after research I learned she was from Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach. Her mother was a Grand Duchess of Russia.
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Old 05-02-2019, 04:22 PM
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I have another question about some material in the "Letters to Vicky" book I am reading. From November 1869 January 1870, Queen Victoria and Vicky have a conversation in their letters about a lady-in-waiting to Vicky, named Valerie Hohenthal, who suddenly left Vicky. In the footnote it said she lived with Count Uxkull and eventually married him. However, it does not specifically say that this is the reason she left Vicky. They talk about a duel and how Queen Augusta was angry and bitter with both Valerie and Vicky. Queen Victoria says she wishes that Valerie could go to her sister (Walburg Lady Paget) or a friend. She feels that Valerie has been foolish, but that she is being abused by people because she is not conforming to the way that things are done. She then talks about the difficulties of unmarried ladies. Does anyone know the details of what happened here? I have tried to do Internet research but I am not coming up with anything. Thanks.
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:58 PM
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I have another question about some material in the "Letters to Vicky" book I am reading. From November 1869 January 1870, Queen Victoria and Vicky have a conversation in their letters about a lady-in-waiting to Vicky, named Valerie Hohenthal, who suddenly left Vicky. In the footnote it said she lived with Count Uxkull and eventually married him. However, it does not specifically say that this is the reason she left Vicky. They talk about a duel and how Queen Augusta was angry and bitter with both Valerie and Vicky. Queen Victoria says she wishes that Valerie could go to her sister (Walburg Lady Paget) or a friend. She feels that Valerie has been foolish, but that she is being abused by people because she is not conforming to the way that things are done. She then talks about the difficulties of unmarried ladies. Does anyone know the details of what happened here? I have tried to do Internet research but I am not coming up with anything. Thanks.
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Here’s a snippet I found that gives a little background start at p. 17. No reference to a duel, tho’.
https://books.google.com/books?id=gJ...enthal&f=false
And here’s a photo of Valerie Hohenthal
https://www.rct.uk/collection/280082...uxkull-1841-78
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Here’s a snippet I found that gives a little background start at p. 17. No reference to a duel, tho’.
https://books.google.com/books?id=gJ...enthal&f=false
And here’s a photo of Valerie Hohenthal
https://www.rct.uk/collection/280082...uxkull-1841-78
Thank you. That clears it up. I found out upon further reading in "Letters to Vicky" that the duel had nothing to do with Valerie Hohenthal.
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Old 05-02-2019, 10:33 PM
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Valerie was the sister of Wally Paget née Hohenthal, Vicky and Queen Victoria's great friend. Valerie apparently had 'advanced' anti-marriage views.

However, what it says about bearing her in the above snippet (as in bearing and losing two babies before marrying) can't be true as she and Alfred Uxkull-Gyllenbrand married in Switzerland in July 1871, so the anti-marriage thing cannot have lasted long, and their elder daughter was born the next year, the oldest of three children. Valerie died in 1878, and her Lt Colonel husband in 1877. Their son Nicholas became involved with von Stauffenberg in the 1944 plot against Hitler, and was killed.
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Valerie was the sister of Wally Paget née Hohenthal, Vicky and Queen Victoria's great friend. Valerie apparently had 'advanced' anti-marriage views.

However, what it says about bearing her in the above snippet (as in bearing and losing two babies before marrying) can't be true as she and Alfred Uxkull-Gyllenbrand married in Switzerland in July 1871, so the anti-marriage thing cannot have lasted long, and their elder daughter was born the next year, the oldest of three children. Valerie died in 1878, and her Lt Colonel husband in 1877. Their son Nicholas became involved with von Stauffenberg in the 1944 plot against Hitler, and was killed.
wasn't he the Uncle of Claus Von Stauffenberg?
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Old 05-04-2019, 05:17 PM
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Yes he was. Von Stauffenberg's mother Caroline was Nicholas's sister.
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Old 05-04-2019, 05:24 PM
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Yes he was. Von Stauffenberg's mother Caroline was Nicholas's sister.
sometime since I read a bio of Von Stauff but I did not remember that Nicholas had been killed? I thought that he survived, and he mentioned how he had helped Claus after his injuries had handicapped him..
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Von Stauffenberg was severely wounded in North Aftrica in 1943 when his vehicle was strafed by Allied planes. He was left maimed. However, both uncle and nephew were killed in 1944 after the unsuccessful July plot to kill Hitler.
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Von Stauffenberg was severely wounded in North Aftrica in 1943 when his vehicle was strafed by Allied planes. He was left maimed. However, both uncle and nephew were killed in 1944 after the unsuccessful July plot to kill Hitler.
I was sure I'd read about his sayng that he helped Stauffenberg with dressing and handling things.. so I thought that he had survived.. He was 67. Can't bear to think of it...
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