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Yes I had forgotten the family connection ,Margery Wentworths
mother was Lady Anne Say who died around 1494.
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Enjoy this unique article about Henry VIII...
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Old 01-14-2021, 03:33 AM
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Elizabeth Barton was a nun. She declared that a divorce for Henry VIII and Catherine of Aragon would be Henry's downfall. If he married Anne Boleyn, Elizabeth said Henry would lose his kingdom and die a villain's death.
Did any priest, bishop, or archbishop express any unkind remark about the ending of King Henry VIII?
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Old 01-14-2021, 05:03 AM
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Elizabeth was also known as 'The Nun of Kent' and she along with several other of her supporters were executed in April 1534.
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Old 01-15-2021, 09:02 PM
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How did King Henry VIII's break from the Church differ from Martin Luther's?
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Old 01-15-2021, 10:05 PM
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How did King Henry VIII's break from the Church differ from Martin Luther's?
Henry was a catholic from the day he was born to the day he died. That is the major difference.

Henry was not a protestant. He considered his church to be the English catholic church. There was very little reforms made during his life time, except placing the power of the church in his hands and the archbishops, instead of Rome.Other then dissolving the abbeys and that was more a land grab and money grab then any real religious conviction on his part. Many of his early minor reforms he made he reversed. The Anglican church didn't make any great reforms until after his reign.

Henry hated Martin Luther and other 'radical' protestants as he thought them. He was as likely to burn a lutheran as he was a Catholic.


Catherine Parr survived marriage to Henry VIII by the skin of her teeth. She was a 'suspected protestant' and people like Steven Gardiner were out for her blood. A warrant was issued for her arrest but she managed to make peace with Henry. Had he lived longer there is a good chance she would have been his third wife to be executed. She very much was a supporter of the new faith.
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Old 01-17-2021, 12:44 PM
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Yes the more drastic changes came after the death of Henry VIII during the brief reign of Edward VI with the introduction of the 1549 Book of prayer and the wave of iconoclasm (destruction of church images/statues) which followed.
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The term "Henrician Catholicism" sometimes gets used in books. I'm not sure that Henry would ever have broken with Rome had he not been so desperate to end his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. But, having gone down that path, he liked the idea of being in charge of religion in England, and not being subject to anyone else, even the Pope ... and, of course, he liked being able to take the money and land from the monasteries. But I don't think he shared any of Luther, much less Calvin,'s thoughts on actual religious doctrine and practice.
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Old 01-17-2021, 02:56 PM
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Plus also had a lot to do with who had the kings ear, Cranmer and Cromwell or Norfolk or Gardiner .Towards the end of his reign he seems to have sided more with Norfolk, Southampton, Gardiner or Bonner.
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The term "Henrician Catholicism" sometimes gets used in books. I'm not sure that Henry would ever have broken with Rome had he not been so desperate to end his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. But, having gone down that path, he liked the idea of being in charge of religion in England, and not being subject to anyone else, even the Pope ... and, of course, he liked being able to take the money and land from the monasteries. But I don't think he shared any of Luther, much less Calvin,'s thoughts on actual religious doctrine and practice.
Quite true, especially your last comment. I often wonder with what degree of consternation and disapproval Henry would have registered the manner in which his precious heir Edward fully embraced the extremes of Luther and Calvin.

It was under Edward VI that the English Church truly ceased to be "Catholic"...and there was no turning back despite the zealous efforts of his sister and successor Mary I.
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Old 01-17-2021, 03:14 PM
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The term "Henrician Catholicism" sometimes gets used in books. I'm not sure that Henry would ever have broken with Rome had he not been so desperate to end his marriage to Catherine of Aragon. But, having gone down that path, he liked the idea of being in charge of religion in England, and not being subject to anyone else, even the Pope ... and, of course, he liked being able to take the money and land from the monasteries. But I don't think he shared any of Luther, much less Calvin,'s thoughts on actual religious doctrine and practice.
Quite true, especially your last comment. I often wonder with what degree of consternation and disapproval Henry would have registered the manner in which his precious heir Edward fully embranced the extremes of Luther and Calvin.

It was under Edward VI that the English Church truly ceased to be "Catholic"...and there was no turning back despite the zealous efforts of his sister and successor Mary I.
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The Religious Policies of Henry VIII and Edward VI were largely ignored in Ireland except in the Pale (English area around Dublin) .Of the over 400 religious houses in Ireland only half had been dissolved by the Henry's death and one of the last ones survived until 1603.

Henry VIII wasn't King of Ireland until June 1541 ,prior to this English Monarchs were style Lord of Ireland which was a title bestowed by the Pope.
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I thought this was an interesting find! I'd spend my whole time metal detecting if I lived in England.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ried-tree.html
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Yes it's a good story. Very interesting. I would say there are a great many relics yet to be found not only in the UK but also in Europe.
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Old 01-30-2021, 02:33 PM
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The discovery of the centrepiece of Henry VIII’s lost crown is a truly amazing find.

The crown itself was melted down by Cromwell.
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The elaborate polished copper Wolsey Angels were originally commissioned for the tomb of Cardinal Thomas Wolsey but were siezed by Henry VIII after the Cardinal's death and were meant to be used on Henry's tomb but that never happened.

The Wolsey Angels Saved for the Nation - Victoria and Albert Museum
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Were the international allies of King Henry VIII alienated from him after he married Anne Boleyn?
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Old 02-27-2021, 04:06 PM
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He alienated most of them by divorcing Catherine and then marrying Anne.

Henry was not on good terms with the Holy Roman Empire, France ,Scotland and the Papacy.
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Yes he made a lot of enemies abroad. It's the reason he had to spend so much on building large numbers of coastal forts later in his reign.

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Yes he made a lot of enemies abroad. It's the reason he had to spend so much on building large numbers of coastal forts later in his reign.

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He was very fearful of a Franco-Scottish invasion ,the French sank the Mary Rose during one attack on Portsmouth and the Isle of Wight.
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