Picture Identity - Page 2

EllieCat · #21 02-21-2016, 04:16 PM

I don't know about Canada, but here in New Zealand copyright lasts for 50 years AFTER the death of the copyright holder, who in this case would be the photographer.

Great pics, but i would think the one of the princess in the car with her parents is Princess Margaret.

absoluteanna · #22 02-21-2016, 04:30 PM

I do believe you are correct about i being Princess Margaret, shows how much I know! I contacted Getty to see if they are copyright holders for these. Antiques Roadshow didn't have a forum and they don't do online appraisals/advice.

If Getty doesn't own them, then I don't have a clue how to go about finding the photographer? There is no indication of who it is. Still, could I not sell them on ebay or somewhere even if they are still the copyright of the photographer? I

AdmirerUS · #23 02-21-2016, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by absoluteanna

I do believe you are correct about i being Princess Margaret, shows how much I know! I contacted Getty to see if they are copyright holders for these. Antiques Roadshow didn't have a forum and they don't do online appraisals/advice.

If Getty doesn't own them, then I don't have a clue how to go about finding the photographer? There is no indication of who it is. Still, could I not sell them on ebay or somewhere even if they are still the copyright of the photographer? I

In the US, for sure, if you own the print (and you do), you may sell it. Why do you not assume a family member or friend took these? Looking at them, that would be my guess.

I know members of the forums would liked to see a scanned version of these (even if only one or two). Hint, hint. You could restrict sharing as you hold the copy rite to the copy of the photos.

absoluteanna · #24 02-21-2016, 05:34 PM

I guess a family member could have taken these but they would have been on the "inside" to get photos this close. The vantage point of these pics isn't a regular far away tourist in the crowd type photo. I will have to see if I can find any more info within the family. I will try to get clearer pics of each to share.

Scarebaby · #25 02-21-2016, 06:00 PM

Looks like the Braemar Games in Scotland. 1951? Nice find!

Scarebaby · #26 02-21-2016, 06:09 PM

Have a look at this YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2-qfxnCOpA

Shows the party arriving in the same car, with Margaret sitting in front of the King and Queen.

absoluteanna · #27 02-21-2016, 06:27 PM

Yes, definitely from the Braemar 1951 gathering - that's all I could find about them. Now I just wish I knew who took them and if they are unpublished and if there is still a copyright (and of course some idea of value would be nice!!)

Ana Von Cleves · #28 02-21-2016, 06:35 PM

I would argue that those are private, family snaps. I believe one could get much closer to nearly all public figures in those days. Especially at such an informal event. A clue to ownership would be if you came across the negatives. Then you would know they were owned by the estate.

absoluteanna · #29 02-21-2016, 06:46 PM

I hope they are private family pics! Unfortunately all other albums and any envelopes that would have contained negatives were thrown away :-(
In one photo - the one on the second row on left - you can see a large crowd gathered and held back away from the royal family. That's why I think these were taken by some official inside photographer. The style and vantage point of the photos are also very similar to the Getty photos taken at the same event. Here is a Getty copyrighted photo that I found. Looks so similar to the third photo I posted above.

carlota · #30 02-21-2016, 06:48 PM

how exciting! i always liked 'treasure' stories and detective stories, so it's always fun to read about nice rare finds :)
i hope you can get to know who took them. maybe the person owning the state was someone who was originally from around braemar and was there as part of the public and took the pictures? in those days, a visiting royal event would have been a once in a lifetime opportunity, so i guess people took pictures of it which they treasured forever.

absoluteanna · #31 02-21-2016, 06:53 PM

Just to show the comparison between the Getty photo and my photo.

The first one is my photo (it is actually clear and crisp, just a bad "photo of the photo"!)
The second one is the Getty copyright photo.

**HRHHermione** · #32 02-21-2016, 08:52 PM

Thank you for sharing these! I don't have advice but I enjoyed looking at them

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Tiggersk8 · #33 02-21-2016, 10:20 PM

I also haven't got any advice to offer, but wanted to thank you for sharing them w/us. :)

In two of the pictures, you can see a little boy. In the one, it's a full on clear picture of his face and looks to me to be the late Prince William of Gloucester. The second photo though...Combine distance and the angle he's standing at, I can't tell if it's him or someone else.

Anyone know?

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wanderingnana · #34 02-22-2016, 12:36 AM

It looks like the boy is standing next to the Duke of Edinburgh so I would think he would be Prince Charles

lucymae88 · #35 02-22-2016, 01:02 AM

I wouldn't sell them on eBay, If your set on selling them I would go through the right people and company so your not cheated and the pictures go to someone who will care about them and take care of them. You found a rare treasure, If your planning on keeping them it's a good idea to insure them.

Curryong · #36 02-22-2016, 01:34 AM

I don't know whether you live near a large city but there are antique dealers that specialise in postcards, photographs and other ephemera. If you could get in to see one they would give you some idea of what the photos are worth. (Telephone book/online sites)

Sorry that you didn't have any luck with Antique Road Show. I have known someone years ago who got good advice from them but he wrote to them enclosing a photo and that might be a long process

Valerie Rose · #37 02-26-2016, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by wanderingnana

It looks like the boy is standing next to the Duke of Edinburgh so I would think he would be Prince Charles

Prince Charles turned three years of age in November 1951, so it's not him in that photo.

jimmysmitts · #38 11-07-2016, 04:46 PM

Hello everyone
I have a few photos i need help with.I have been told they have a royal collection but as of yet i cant identify the people.Can anyone help with putting names to them or perhaps they are not royal at all??
any help appreciated
regards
james

Fürstin Taxis · #39 11-07-2016, 07:08 PM

The man in the third photo is really striking and has something of a Hohenzollern Prince.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the older man seems to wear a RAF uniform

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unifor...R_Scarlett.jpg

They look familiar, but I can't put my finger on it.

Curryong · #40 11-07-2016, 07:10 PM

Are the middle couple guests at a wedding, because no British upper class nuptials would have groom or male guests in lounge not morning suits? If it was wartime maybe, but that photo looks as if it is from the late 1950's early 1960's to me.

The top photo is a wartime photo, I think. Apart from the groom concerned being a uniformed RAF officer as the Duke of Kent was, I can't see any resemblance to any male member of the BRF.

In the last photo the groom is in morning dress and has the look of a Lascelles to me. The bride is in a gown which appears to be late 1940's. When did Princess Mary's (Countess Lascelles) younger son marry? Otherwise, the two wedding photos may be weddings at which a Royal or two was present and that's the connection. I really can't see any obvious Royal link at all, sorry.