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07-28-2014, 09:13 PM
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When Prince George Frederick Ernest Albert was the Prince of Wales, did he sign his name with P (for Princeps)?
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Isn't he the one that was often referred to as "Prinny"?
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George Augustus Frederick was referred to as Prinny. He became King George IV.
George Frederick Ernest Albert became King George V.
At the court of King Gustaf III of Sweden, Queen Sophia Magdalena signed her name as Sophie Madeleine.
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07-28-2014, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla
When Prince George Frederick Ernest Albert was the Prince of Wales, did he sign his name with P (for Princeps)?
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Isn't he the one that was often referred to as "Prinny"?
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07-29-2014, 10:10 PM
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George Augustus Frederick was referred to as Prinny. He became King George IV.
George Frederick Ernest Albert became King George V.
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Thanks! I am very good at getting my Georges all mixed up.
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07-30-2014, 09:03 AM
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This is how Acts and Royal Decrees look in the Netherlands, with a new lay-out since the accession of King Willem-Alexander. His signature is below. No "R" behind his name, this is only done when the King signs a document outside the Netherlands, for an example a guest book or something.
Link± http://www.montesquieu-instituut.nl/...hoofdplaat.jpg
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07-30-2014, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
This is how Acts and Royal Decrees look in the Netherlands, with a new lay-out since the accession of King Willem-Alexander. His signature is below. No "R" behind his name, this is only done when the King signs a document outside the Netherlands, for an example a guest book or something.
Link± http://www.montesquieu-instituut.nl/...hoofdplaat.jpg
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Why was the "R" behind his name dropped?
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07-30-2014, 04:09 PM
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Why was the "R" behind his name dropped?
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Because he's not King of that country I imagine :)
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07-30-2014, 04:34 PM
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Because he's not King of that country I imagine :)
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Maybe I'm wrong but I understood Duc_et_Pair's post that the 'R' was dropped when signing his name on documents in the Netherlands?
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07-30-2014, 06:08 PM
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Why was the "R" behind his name dropped?
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My guess - and it's purely a guess - would be that since the Dutch don't use all the pomp within the Netherlands, the R is dropped there, but since other countries expect the pomp it is used outside of the Netherlands.
If memory serves, in the Netherlands they don't typically do things like bowing or curtseying, but if a Dutch Prince greets a foreign royal outside of the Netherlands he's still likely to bow - minimal pomp in the realm, but expected pomp outside of it. Of course, that's just my guess.
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07-30-2014, 07:31 PM
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The R in the name is not used because anyone in the kingdom is supposed to know who that person is who signs with a first name only ('Willem-Alexander, 'Juliana', etc.).
Outside the kingdom the R is used, but not consequently. When on a page in a guestbook is already written "The King of the Netherlands" then Willem-Alexander will leave the R aside.
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08-03-2014, 07:35 AM
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letizia & felipe they put the "r" in portugal. let's see if there are in spain signatures.
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09-01-2015, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Duc_et_Pair
The R in the name is not used because anyone in the kingdom is supposed to know who that person is who signs with a first name only ('Willem-Alexander, 'Juliana', etc.).
Outside the kingdom the R is used, but not consequently. When on a page in a guestbook is already written "The King of the Netherlands" then Willem-Alexander will leave the R aside.
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As stated, inside the Kingdom the King signs with Willem-Alexander
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Outside the Kingdom the King signs with Willem-Alexander R
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09-01-2015, 09:07 AM
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Some of them have a very nice writing, others a terrible one. I,myself, has a terrible writing and when I sign I try to do the best that I ca but I know that it isn't easy and that requires much effort... I was surprised to see how good was the signature and writing of Princess Charlene for example, and how bad IMO is Catherine Cabridge's writing...
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09-01-2015, 09:26 AM
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British royals who are prince/ss sign with their christian name. The Duke of Edinburgh sings as 'Philip' the Duchess of Cambridge signs as 'Catherine'
Non royal members sign with their first and last names. 'Zara Tindall'
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05-11-2016, 08:37 AM
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Whilst searching for something else, I found this signed photo of Crown Princess Masako before she married:
http://www.yuko2ch.net/mako/imgbbs3j...0301001010.jpg
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05-11-2016, 01:12 PM
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Signatures today in Sweden:
First president Michelle Bachelet from Chile
Then king Carl Gustaf, queen Silvia, crown princess Victoria, prince Daniel and prince Carl Philip.
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Margrethe II of Denmark's signature
Frederika of Hannover,queen of Greece signature
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