Royal Courtiers, Ladies in Waiting, Staff, etc

[ILoveCristina]

Where is this thread? I'd love to read it too!

[royal_sophietje]

What are the titles Chamberlain, lady-in-waiting, aide-de-camp etc. etc. in other languages???

For the Dutch (Nederlands) it's the following:

hofdame= lady-in-waiting (when married) or maid of honour (not married)
adjudant= aide-de-camp
kamerheer= chamberlain
kamerheer des konings= Lord of the Bedchamber
hofdignitaris= Lord Chamberlain
Commissaris der Koningin= Lord Lieutenant
hofmaarschalk= Lord Chamberlain
ceremoniemeester= master of the ceremonies
intendant= comptroller of the King's Household
Lakei= footmen
ordonnansofficier= aide-de-camp
stalmeester= master of the horse
penningmeester= treasurer
privé-secretaris= private secretary

[ILoveCristina]

Never mind, somebody just posted in your thread, so I found it!

[nilah]

The royal courts have a lot of servants and another people who work for the royal families. Could anyone list these persons and their positions ?

[hillary_nugent]

are the sercants paid by the government or the royal family?

[Lord Sosnowitz]

Chief of Lay-in-waiting to the Empress.

[DDD]

Originally Posted by hillary_nugent

are the sercants paid by the government or the royal family?

In the Netherlands the ladies in waiting don´t get paid in money, the royal family sees it as a honor to work for them as a lady in waiting, besides the ladies are mostly untitled nobility, so I think they don´t need the cash..
The servants do get their money, paid by the royal family, but that money is actually of the government......


Security for members of the Royal House:
€ 39.000.000.(Via the budgets of the Ministries of Defense and the Interior)

300 civil servants working on the Kabinet der Koningin and mainly working for the Royal House on various departments:
€ 20.000.000.(Via the budgets of various Ministries)

[Josefine]

crown princess victoria has gotten some new "right hand" people you can read about it at the swedish forum

[sara1981]

Princess Diana had right hands and im not sure what another right hands?

Sara Boyce

[Jane Catherine]

What is "court dress" please? :)

Thanks!

[ldt20]

Does Letizia have a "lady-in-waiting"?

[lula]

Originally Posted by ldt20

Does Letizia have a "lady-in-waiting"?

Not, in Spain this position does not exist. When the current Kings occupied the throne they decided that court should not exist. The Queen Sofia does not have it either.

[mima]

what is lady- in- waiting?

[ldt20]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A lady-in-waiting is a female personal assistant at a noble court, attending to a queen, a princess or other noblewoman. A lady-in-waiting is often a noblewoman of lower rank (i.e., a lesser noble) than the one she attends to, and is not considered a servant or other commoner. Their duties varied from monarchy to monarchy. In Tudor England they were divided into four separate caste systems - great ladies, ladies of the privy chamber, maids of honour and chamberers. The ladies of the privy chamber were the ones who were closest to the queen, but most of the other women were the maids of honour. Female relatives were often appointed because they could be trusted confidantes to the queen; Lady Margaret Lee was a Lady of the Privy Chamber to Queen Anne Boleyn, just as Lady Elizabeth Seymour-Cromwell was to Queen Jane Seymour. The duties of ladies-in-waiting at the Tudor court were to act as royal companions, and to accompany the Queen wherever she went. Tudor queens often had a large degree of say in who became their ladies-in-waiting. Sometimes Ladies-in-Wating would be a lady's older sister who never got married and came to keep her sister company.
The term is also used in film and stage, to describe an actress whose role consists of very little action or involvement.
This attitude was very different to ladies-in-waiting to French queens under the later Bourbon dynasty. Ladies-in-waiting often acted as glorified but distant companions to the Spanish and Polish wives of Louis XIV and Louis XV. Under France's last Bourbon queen, Marie-Antoinette several of her favourite ladies-in-waiting - namely Yolande, duchesse de Polignac acquired huge influence and wealth for themselves.
In later years, the ladies-in-waiting became discreet companions to the royal ladies of Europe, a practice which continues to this day.
In the Royal Household of the United Kingdom the term Lady-in-Waiting is used to describe a woman attending a female member of the Royal Family other than the Queen Regnant or Queen Consort. An attendant upon one of the latter is style Lady of the Bedchamber or Woman of the Bedchamber, and the senior Lady in Waiting is the Mistress of the Robes. The Women are in regular attendance, but the Mistress of the Robes and the Ladies of the Bedchamber are normally only required for ceremonial occasions. There were formerly other offices, including Maids of Honour.

[ldt20]

The Spanish Royal Household has a full staff of secretaries that take care of: protocol, planning, relationship with the media, etc.

The King, Queen and Prince each have their own "secretary". I guess Letizia now shares with Felipe.

http://www.casareal.es/esp/laCasa/lacasa.html

I don't know if anybody goes with them and assists them when they travel or do their official outings.

Does anybody know what Royal Households have ladies in waiting?

[Kelly]

So who helps them or assists them during their official outings?

[nayralorenzo]

I think Sofia doesn't need, but maybe for Letizia, she will be a good help, at least for these first times.

[lula]

The Queen has a secretary who directs her small equipment, the Infantas also have secretaries who depend on the equipment of the Queen. They are quite men. The Princess depends on the Secretariat of the Prince and of that they form a part of the equipment of the Prince.
In the trips importantly spueden to have a person who helps them with the clothes or a heirdresser.

Originally Posted by nayralorenzo

I think Sofia doesn't need, but maybe for Letizia, she will be a good help, at least for these first times.

In Spain a court does not exist and therefore this possibility did not exist, I believe that for the Spanish society it would be very strange to return to something like that.
What Letizia needs or it will be necessary when they decide that she should develop her own activity, it is a secretary with that to form equipment. Someone who helps her in her work.

[lula]

Originally Posted by ldt20

The Spanish Royal Household has a full staff of secretaries that take care of: protocol, planning, relationship with the media, etc.

The King, Queen and Prince each have their own "secretary". I guess Letizia now shares with Felipe.

http://www.casareal.es/esp/laCasa/lacasa.html

I don't know if anybody goes with them and assists them when they travel or do their official outings.

Does anybody know what Royal Households have ladies in waiting?

Always they are accompanied by people, depending on the act. In the trips of State or officials they are in the habit of being accompanied by the Chief of the Royal House or the General Secretary.
In the trip of the Kings to Jordan were the Chief of the Royal House, the Secretary, the Chief of Security, that of press and that of protocol.

In the small visits there come their secretaries and assistants who are in the habit of being military. This way it is in the habit of being in case of the Kings and the Princes. The Infantas I imagine that they are accompanied of her secretaries.

[magnik]

Originally Posted by Jane Catherine

What is "court dress" please? :)

Thanks!

What is it? - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Uniform_and_Dress
Example of Russian court dress - http://lafayette.150m.com/gra2448a.html