Orders & Sashes

[Sternchen]

Originally Posted by JessRulz

But, if you have the same coloured sash as another country (ie. Denmark & Sweden), then it changes. For example, at the King of Sweden's 60th Birthday celebrations, CP Mary of Denmark wore her Danish sash over her right shoulder connecting at her left hip, because the Swedish royal were wearing their order over their left shoulder down to their right hip.

Mary was wearing her sash as always from left shoulder to right hip and not other way round. And that is the only correct way to wear it
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Also the Website of the Danish Royal family only mentions wearing the Order of the Elephant over the left shoulder
The Danish Monarchy - History - Royal Orders of Chivalry

[Sternchen]

It depends on the event that takes place during the state visit. Let's take Sweden and Italy as an example.
If it is an event from the Swedish Royal Family hosts, the guests from Italy (and the hosts) will wear the Swedish order they received, alternatively (when they don't have a Swedish order) they will wear the highest order they have.
On the return event that is hosted by Italy, the Swedish Royal family (and the members of the government) will wear their Italian order, and if they don't have one, they will wear the highest order they have.

Hope that helps

You can find informations about how to wear the sash on most websites of the respective Royal families
http://kongehuset.dk/publish.php?dogtag=k_en_his_ord
http://www.kongehuset.no/c28559/arti...html?tid=28662

[MrsHart]

Thank you, Sternchen, that certainly clear things up.
There seems to be a general confusion and many different explanations about the sashes and their use in this forum.

[Sternchen]

It is definetly confusing Sometimes even the employees responsible get confused. When Alexandra was still Princess of Denmark, she wore the Order of the Elephant from the wrong shoulder for the New Years court, and it seems her Lady's maid didn't notice it either. But someone must have told her, as she later changed it to the correct shoulder
And IIRC Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh once wore the wrong sash to a function, seems someone in charge of the sashes confused them and packed the wrong one, which is quiet embarassing

[MAfan]

It happened at King Baudouin of Belgium's funeral in 1993; his aide (or however the person in charge) took the sash of the Order of Leopard (an order of Zaire, now Democratic Republic of the Congo) instead of the sash of the Belgian Order of Leopold.
It was definitely embarrasssing, because Congo was a former Belgian colony and there still were tensions between Belgium and Zaire.

[Grandduchess24]

How do you wear those things correctly?
Right shoulder left hip
Left shoulder right hip
Different color sashes and their meaning for the color?

[Next Star]

Yes it is embrassing to wear the wrong order/sash all together or just wear the order/sash on the wrong shoulder.If you don't get an order/sash
from an head of state or house you would have wear your own which ever is the right order/sash depending on what event your attending.

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Grandduchess24

How do you wear those things correctly?
Right shoulder left hip
Left shoulder right hip
Different color sashes and their meaning for the color?

Depends on the order,some are right shoulder left hip and some are the reverse.

[IloveCP]

Here's a lot of info on sashes:

The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Royal Splendor 101: Sashes and Stuff, Part 1

[Jacknch]

I've now put The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor on my favourites! It's a fantastic site and full of interesting and funny news, well researched and user-friendly!! Didn't know anything about how to wear sashes etc, and now I do!

[IloveCP]

Here are more posts Jacknch:

The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Royal Splendor 101: Sashes and Stuff, Part 2

The Royal Order of Sartorial Splendor: Flashback Friday: Sash and Gown Combos That Work

[CyrilVladisla]

On his wedding day, Prince William, Duke of Cambridge wore the blue Garter Sash.

[GömdNatt]

Originally Posted by Sternchen

It depends on the event that takes place during the state visit. Let's take Sweden and Italy as an example.
If it is an event from the Swedish Royal Family hosts, the guests from Italy (and the hosts) will wear the Swedish order they received, alternatively (when they don't have a Swedish order) they will wear the highest order they have.
On the return event that is hosted by Italy, the Swedish Royal family (and the members of the government) will wear their Italian order, and if they don't have one, they will wear the highest order they have.

Hope that helps

You can find informations about how to wear the sash on most websites of the respective Royal families
Kongehuset - Forside
kongehuset.no - The Order of St. Olav

Bolded is not true. For State Visits, the correct protocol is to wear the highest order you have of the visiting country. If you do not have an order for them, then you wear your own countries order (if you have one).

I have found these two photos of Silvia recently, but I have no idea what sash(es) she's wearing. I'm also not sure of the dates, which could help narrow it down. I'm thinking one is from the 80s and one is from the 90s. My initial guess is that it's the Portuguese Order of Christ, but I'm not sure. (They paid a visit to Portugal in 1986 and the Portuguese visited Sweden in 1990).

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/v...ps8bf3f779.jpg

http://i694.photobucket.com/albums/v...s0108cce4.jpeg

Any guesses? Sadly, you can't really see the badges/stars, which would make guessing a lot easier. Sjobergbildbyra.se does say the first photo is from 1990.

[Bryce]

I think that you are right GomdNatt that the red Portuguese sash is that of the Order of Christ. QS received this in 1987. She was honoured with the Order of Prince Henry the Navigator in 2008 - the sash of which is blue, white and black.

[GömdNatt]

Originally Posted by Bryce

I think that you are right GomdNatt that the red Portuguese sash is that of the Order of Christ. QS received this in 1987. She was honoured with the Order of Prince Henry the Navigator in 2008 - the sash of which is blue, white and black.

that's what I was thinking. Thank you!

[GömdNatt]

I've read that Order wearing protocol says it's incorrect to wear a sash on your bare shoulder, however I can find no information backing this up and in fact, I find that only Sophie of Wessex, Elena of Spain, and Letizia of Spain have tucked their sash in their dress when having bare shoulders. Everyone else just wears their order over their shoulders.

So is this person correct? Is it actually wrong to wear a sash over your bare shoulder?

[maria-olivia]

Princess Sofia needs one or two brooches to attach her Serafim Sash correctly.
Hope she will do better for the Nobel.

[LadyFinn]

Originally Posted by GömdNatt

I've read that Order wearing protocol says it's incorrect to wear a sash on your bare shoulder, however I can find no information backing this up and in fact, I find that only Sophie of Wessex, Elena of Spain, and Letizia of Spain have tucked their sash in their dress when having bare shoulders. Everyone else just wears their order over their shoulders.

So is this person correct? Is it actually wrong to wear a sash over your bare shoulder?

Swedish "etiquette expert" Magdalena Ribbing complained strongly last year when crown princess Victoria wore at the Nobel Prize ceremony the sash on her bare skin.
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Unfortunately ms Ribbing didn't remember then at all, that HM queen Silvia has worn many times the sash also on her bare shoulder, also at the Nobel Prize ceremonies. And so has princess Madeleine.
Here is only some photos of queen Silvia with her sash on bare shoulder.
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Princess Madeleine
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Obviously Victoria and Madeleine think that if the queen can wear the sash on her bare shoulder, they can too.

[JR76]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Swedish "etiquette expert" Magdalena Ribbing complained strongly last year when crown princess Victoria wore at the Nobel Prize ceremony the sash on her bare skin.
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Unfortunately ms Ribbing didn't remember then at all, that HM queen Silvia has worn many times the sash also on her bare shoulder, also at the Nobel Prize ceremonies. And so has princess Madeleine.
Here is only some photos of queen Silvia with her sash on bare shoulder.
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Princess Madeleine
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Obviously Victoria and Madeleine think that if the queen can wear the sash on her bare shoulder, they can too.

I'm a bit surprised really. Queen Silvia rarely puts a foot wrong in matters of etiquette.


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[MARG]

Quite right. Queen Silvia is the standard!