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08-16-2005, 07:37 AM
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Firstly, why King Olav V of Norway was made a Knight of the Thistle in 1962? It is a ‘unique’ in history of the Order—as far as I know, no other foreign monarch has received the second-highest British order of chivalry. Did the late King of Norway have some special connection with Scotland?
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King Olav was the son of Prince Carl of Denmark and Princess Maud of the United Kingdom (granddaughter of Queen Victoria). So King Edward VII was the maternal grandfather of King Olav, and I suppose it's the family connection that resultet in him being made a Knight of the Thistle.
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08-16-2005, 08:08 AM
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Norway and Scotland had strong ties several hundred years ago. King Eric of Norway married the sister of Robert the Bruce. In fact in the Middle Ages, Scotland seemed to have closer relations to the Scandinavian countries than did England. A few Danish princesses married Kings of Scotland and one of them brought with her in her dowry the Shetland Islands which had previously belonged to Denmark.
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08-16-2005, 09:29 AM
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Yes, the ties between Norway and Scotland are strong... I've remembered that Norway was the third member of the Auld Alliance. If King Henri VII were on the throne of France, he would also be a Knight of the Thistle, I guess. :)
And can a non-Christian monarch be honoured with the green ribbon of the Order of the Thistle? What do you think?
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08-16-2005, 10:19 AM
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A few Danish princesses married Kings of Scotland and one of them brought with her in her dowry the Shetland Islands which had previously belonged to Denmark.
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That is partly true! In the beginning the Shetland Islands, Orkneys and some other islands in Scotland belonged to Norway. These islands became a part of Denmark through the Kalmar union (a union between Denmark, Sweden and Norway in the 1350, brought together by Queen Margrete I, but Sweden left after a while), and thus a part of the double monarchy of Denmark-Norway that lasted from about 1350 to 1814. But it is true that the islands were a part of the dowry of Margrete, daughter of Christian I, who married James III of Scotland.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_I_of_Denmark
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08-17-2005, 03:59 AM
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Sashes of Princess Anne,i think they have not been posted:
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08-18-2005, 04:20 PM
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I think it's a icelandic order
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08-18-2005, 04:30 PM
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Another of Princess Anne, August 28, 1993, Norway: (Corbis)
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08-18-2005, 09:02 PM
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I *think* that he's wearing the Bavarian Order of St. Hubert.
http://www.medals.org.uk/bavaria/bavaria005.htm
Hope that's right or helps you find out which order it is. :o
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08-18-2005, 09:40 PM
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Thank you very much also!
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08-19-2005, 03:11 AM
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Thank you very much also!
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You welcome...sorry I didn't realize that Sean.~ had already answered that...:o :) :o
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08-20-2005, 04:57 AM
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08-20-2005, 05:46 AM
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Just one other question... why are some of the sashes worn from left shoulder to right hip or Right shoulder to left hip. Is there a reason for this? I noticed that CP Victoria has her sash Left Shoulder to Right hip and her sister and brother have their sashes worn the reverse. What determines this?
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08-20-2005, 06:55 AM
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Just one other question... why are some of the sashes worn from left shoulder to right hip or Right shoulder to left hip. Is there a reason for this? I noticed that CP Victoria has her sash Left Shoulder to Right hip and her sister and brother have their sashes worn the reverse. What determines this?
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I just read something about that! It depends on the order you recieve. It says quite clearly in its statutes how (and I suppose when) you wear the specific order. I also think that the degree of the order also determines the way you wear the order (as with the Bernadotte "kids"), as the heir to the throne have a higher degree than his/her siblings. That's why some orders sashes are worn from left shoulder to the right hip and visa verca. Who have come up with these statutes I guess is a different matter :)
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08-20-2005, 07:06 AM
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Thanks lots Becca.They are great.
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08-20-2005, 09:16 AM
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yes thanks, they are good pics. IN the last pic of Mary and Frederik's wedding, Sophie Wessex isnt there, and Caroline of Monaco, why is this? or are they there but maybe i cant find them.
Sorry, i know this is a bit off topic.
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08-20-2005, 09:40 AM
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I just read something about that! It depends on the order you recieve. It says quite clearly in its statutes how (and I suppose when) you wear the specific order. I also think that the degree of the order also determines the way you wear the order (as with the Bernadotte "kids"), as the heir to the throne have a higher degree than his/her siblings. ...
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The second is not the case, I think--ribbons (the ones that go across the shoulder, I mean, not the small ones on the chest) go with the highest degree only.
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08-20-2005, 12:00 PM
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You welcome...sorry I didn't realize that Sean.~ had already answered that...:o :) :o
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That's alright. You and Sean are wonderful! And you know, two heads are better than one!
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08-20-2005, 12:06 PM
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yes thanks, they are good pics. IN the last pic of Mary and Frederik's wedding, Sophie Wessex isnt there, and Caroline of Monaco, why is this? or are they there but maybe i cant find them.
Sorry, i know this is a bit off topic.
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Sophie is on the offical picture
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08-20-2005, 12:56 PM
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The second is not the case, I think--ribbons (the ones that go across the shoulder, I mean, not the small ones on the chest) go with the highest degree only.
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That might be, but I also guess that it depends on the order and its statutes. The St. Olav order in Norway have a sash, a star and a necklace as it's highest degree. But then again, this is not my area of expertise :)
http://www.kongehuset.no/default.asp?lang=eng
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That might be, but I also guess that it depends on the order and its statutes. The St. Olav order in Norway have a sash, a star and a necklace as it's highest degree. But then again, this is not my area of expertise :)
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The highest degree of the Order of St Olav, the Grand Cross, has the star and the ribbon. The Collar is a special distinction.
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