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07-17-2014, 03:37 AM
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07-19-2014, 11:38 PM
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Bowing and Curtseying
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Originally Posted by CyrilVladisla
In Royal Romance, it was mentioned that after the wedding ceremony of Prince Edward of Kent and Katharine Worsley, Katharine curtsied to Queen Elizabeth II.
After the ceremony, the slow and elegant curtsey worked beautifully, and the Queen and Queen Mother, no doubt knowing the problems it had entailed, smiled their blessings warmly.
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What happened was Katharine's train dragged on the carpet, so she had to "take a step back into the folds of her gown, thus releasing the tension on her train, and with her head slightly bowed, perform her act of homage."
I thought you took a step back and bowed your head when you curtsied anyway? I always did to my piano teacher during my lessons this year. One foot behind, knees bend, head bowed. That's how I do it.
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07-20-2014, 01:57 AM
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You do not have to bow or curtsey to anyone if you don't want too even if it is the Queen or Charles or Kate or Princess Alexandria. However, if you want to bow or curtsey then you can do it to anyone with a HRH in front of their name.
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You can curtsey or bow to anyone. With or without the predicate HRH... It is all optional and never an obligation. There are also royals who feel unpleasant or uncomfortable receiving a curtsey or a bow, then reacting like: no, no, you don't need to..., why are you going down for me...? I think most royals just prefer a normal handshake.
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07-20-2014, 02:34 AM
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Indeed. In fact, there is a gentleman who works in the catering area at my company who bows to me every time he sees me- and I curtsey in return.
It's an inside joke and a lot of fun.
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08-04-2014, 05:28 AM
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HRH the Duchess of Cambridge curtseying to HM the King of the Belgians.
[Imgur]( http://i.imgur.com/IqrJ31N.jpg)
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08-05-2014, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Darnius
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Very graceful!
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08-08-2014, 05:17 AM
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Pic 1: HRH Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands makes a perfect révérence to HM The King of Thailand.
Pic 2: a Thai lady makes a perfect révérence to HRH Princess Beatrix of the Netherlands
Link: http://topicstock.pantip.com/library...2505161-94.jpg
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08-08-2014, 11:47 AM
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Many curtseys to the King, Queen & Queen Sofia of Spain at Marivent Palace (video)
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08-08-2014, 11:58 AM
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Perhaps this has already been covered somewhere, but why did the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge remain seated when the King of Spain approached their side of the aisle during the WWI Commemorations in Belgium? It was especially glaring in light of the perfect manners displayed by their peer HGD Guillaume of Luxembourg, who immediately rose to his feet when Felipe entered.
Did they not recognize who Felipe was? Any ideas?
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08-08-2014, 02:27 PM
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Would be nice if anyone has links to video of the event to see it, sometimes things sound much worse than they are.
I'd like to think it was simply an error or oversight, they have both been seen bowing curtsying to other royals in past.
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08-08-2014, 05:35 PM
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08-08-2014, 05:51 PM
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Eh...it sounded much worse than it looked. Has anyone thought that maybe they had already greeted one another before the ceremony?
I'm not up to date on royal protocol, but is it a requirement for them to stand each time they are in the presence of someone of a higher rank?
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08-08-2014, 05:55 PM
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 Maybe they greeted him after because you can clearly see that they are standing next to him... But I'm waiting for more justifications
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08-08-2014, 05:55 PM
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It looked like Guillaume was the only one to stand, and then just in greeting. Felipe enters, Guillaume notices and stands in greeting, Felipe returns the greeting then goes and says hello to the man sitting beside William and Kate, then goes and sits back down where he talks with Guillaume. Neither William nor Kate acknowledged Felipe, but then Felipe didn't acknowledge them either.
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08-08-2014, 06:02 PM
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Felipe pauses ever so briefly in the direction of the Cambridges about 28 seconds into the video after greeting the French president, realizes that they don't acknowledge him, then quickly takes his place. He is an elegant, unassuming man.
Seriously...if that had been Prince Carl-Philip or one of the young Luxembourg Princes refusing to stand and acknowledge HM QE II as she appeared would anyone defend them? Honestly?
Was it the end of the world? Of course not. Was it a noticeable lapse in manners and protocol for a couple who surely should have known better?
Yes. Definitely.
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08-08-2014, 06:07 PM
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Well first off....they'd been just standing 'backstage' with him....would it be necessary to 'greet' him again? After the event you can see the 3 of them standing at at the end you can tell Felipe is speaking to Kate...so....I think people are making this more than it is.
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08-08-2014, 06:17 PM
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Yep, I'm confused as to why they would need to greet him again. I've seen a few photos of William speaking with Felipe at the luncheon too.
As for how I would feel if this were Carl-Philip and Queen Elizabeth, nothing would change. If I felt that he had already greeted her, I wouldn't see the need for him to do it again.
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