Bowing and Curtseying


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When Charles and Diana were married, the Prime Minister of Greece refused to come to the wedding after he found out that BP had invited "HM King Constantine of the Hellenes" to the wedding. The PM took offense to the BRF referring to Constantine in this manner.

Thank you. PASOK was in power then and there has been a lot of bad blood between those politicians and the GRF.
If I remember correctly the BRF included K Constantine and Q Anne Marie with the family members rather than the heads of State.
I remember for K Carl Gustav's wedding they placed Anne Marie on the 3rd row while K Constantine was placed on the 4th row of the royals section. He was very upset about it and it showed.
 
I promise to start looking for it. I am sure it is in one of the Point De Vue mags and I have to go through them. Can the person who posted the wedding photos of K Carl Gustav with Silvia Sommerlath from 1976 tell me how to move them from the mag to this site? I tried to google and look for the PDV but the google will not get me anywhere and PDV only has archives for the last 4 years. Please be patient and I promise I will get going asap.

So far I found the picture from the wedding of Prince Bertil showing him bowing and his bride curtseying to the King & Queen of Sweden but do not know how to bring the picture here to post it. I am still looking for the photo of Princess Diana curtseying to King Constantine.
I received the PDV of the wedding of Prince Joaqim and Marie Cavalier and it mentions that in Denmark a nod and a smile suffices in lieu of a curtsey but Queen Margrethe is of the old school........
 
Odette, if you found the picture somewhere, just post the URL here and then people can click on it to look at the picture.
 
Odette, if you found the picture somewhere, just post the URL here and then people can click on it to look at the picture.

It is in Point de Vue #1482 of December 17th 1976
Grand marriage princier a Stockholm. Point de Vue  .:.  only has archives for the last 4 years, that I know of.
 
Does Anyone Have A Picture Of Kate Middleton Curtseying?????
 
Sarah Brown, wife of prime minister Gordon Brown, curtseys to duchess of Cornwall
Daily Mail
 
Don't misunderstand me, please. I never said the contrary. :flowers:

Actually, Austria's position on titles is more strict than that of the United States. It is illegal to use a title in Austria, or even to use an adelspredikat ("von" or "de").

In the United States, it is forbidden for the government to grant titles of nobility, and it is expected that noblemen relinquish their titles in order to become American citizens. However, Americans are allowed to inherit titles without losing citizenship.

As for bowing/curtseying, it is not a faux pas for an American. It is considered polite to show knowledge of protocol, both foreign and domestic. The constitution has nothing to do with it.
 
That was very interesting Prince of Chota. I saw once in a biography of the Duchess of Windsor that they had mistaken her first husband´s name "Earl" for a title and said she had been married to a Count....
In Portugal there was a socialite who for some time appeared in the society magazines as Lady Betty.....but someone seems to have put them straight about this as I haven´t seen that for months.
 
A couple of photos from bowing:
United Nations Secretary-General Dag Hammarskjold bows his head as he formally welcomes Queen Mother Elizabeth on the 30th October 1954
Corbis
Princess Margaret is greeted by Charlie Chaplin on her arrival at the Odeon Theater for the London premiere of the comedian's new film, Limelight on the 18th October 1952
Corbis
 
Pop star Enrique Iglesias bows to King Juan Carlos of Spain after Iglesias performed prior to the Euro 2008 final between Germany and Spain
Daylife
 
As an American, we don't have leaders you bow/curtsy to. If I was meeting President Bush, I would merely shake his hand and say "Mr. President". That's it. If you did curtsy to the President, people would think you lost your mind.


Now if I was meeting the Queen of England, I would most certainly curtsy, as that is what you do when you meet royalty. You're certainly not obligated as no member of MI5 is going to bop you over the head with a cane if you don't, but it would appear quite rude not to and who wants to appear rude in public? I would hate for the Queen of England to think I was raised with no manners.

I don't view bowing/curtsying as submitting to anyone or showing that someone is superior to you or anything else like that. It's respectful. The same as you don't talk with your mouth full, belch at the table or say what you're going to the bathroom for when you get up from the table.
 
I think of it like refusing to take your hat off in church, whether or not it is the denomination you believe in. It's rude...and how hard can it be to bend at the waist?!

But it's only rude to those who believe it's rude. I personally don't see a problem with wearing a hat in church, it's just a building when all's said and done. Simarlarly, if someone chooses not to bow to a member of the Royal Family I don't see it as being rude, it's their choice.
 
(The References are below the link, sorry it's illogical)

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Don't know if this has been posted before, it's Letizia curtseying to The Infanta Piliar at the pre wedding dinner in 2004

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...200267866-006,72854810,71161909|0&id=71009684

Cristina to Juan Carlos

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...200267866-006,72854810,71161909|0&id=50646292

Randomer to Prince Bertil

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=79732476

Lady to The Queen

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=52105613

Sophie to The Queen Mother

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=52098823

A Curtsy for Charles

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=52101476

Diana, Princess of Wales

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=56800047

The Queen in Malaysia

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=52103054

To The Queen

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=52100281

Maundy Curtsy

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...0047,52103054,52100281,52100355|0&id=52116056

A curtsy for Marie-Christine

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...6729,52103072,52100952,52116266|0&id=52116193

Diplomatic Curtsy form Madame Chirac

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...6729,52103072,52100952,52116266|0&id=52106311

To HM The Queen

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...6729,52103072,52100952,52116266|0&id=52100952

And Another

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...6729,52103072,52100952,52116266|0&id=52110987

To Princess Margaret

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...6729,52103072,52100952,52116266|0&id=52110518

To Sophie

http://www.gettyimages.com/Search/D...6729,52103072,52100952,52116266|0&id=52115616

Mary Donaldson to Prince Henrik
 
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They may be her husband's aunt and uncle, but Princess Letizia knows that this will be expected.
 
The olympics should provide lots of curtseying and bowing pictures, plenty of Royals in attendance, Keep an eye out and post any links you find, Thanks, RP
 
I have a question. Why do some royal ladies hold on to both arms of the person they are curtseying to and other royal ladies just gently grasp the hand of the person they are curtseying to and do a quick (but reverent) dip? Is one a less formal way of doing it than the other? Or does it all depend upon the royal court & person doing it? Just curious and thanks in advance!
 
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