Bowing and Curtseying

[MARG]

No matter what she wears, Mary always manages to pull off an elegant and respectful curtsey. Perhaps she chose wide-legged trousers with the added volume enabling her to not look wierd.

[sarahedwards2]

Originally Posted by MARG

No matter what she wears, Mary always manages to pull off an elegant and respectful curtsey. Perhaps she chose wide-legged trousers with the added volume enabling her to not look wierd.

Curtsies always look better in skirts (preferably below the knee).

[Mbruno]

If a Crown Prince becomes Prince Regent, does he still have to bow to reigning monarchs of other countries?

[Durham]

Originally Posted by Mbruno

If a Crown Prince becomes Prince Regent, does he still have to bow to reigning monarchs of other countries?

The Tsar & King of Prussia were in London in 1814 to celebrate victory over France (prematurely as it turned out of course). At this time Prinny had been Prince Regent for three years so there may be some information somewhere about precedence etc.

[Durham]

From this

:https://georgianera.wordpress.com/20...-20-june-1814/

"The Prince Regent entered the park with his hat off, bowing to the vast assembly, the Emperor Alexander riding on his right hand, and the king of Prussia on his left,"

If he'd just been the PofW instead of PR would he have ridden behind the two monarchs? Maybe that gives a clue to his status vis-a-vis the two sovereigns possibly?

[Curryong]

I’d suggest the fact that all three rode together had more to do with them being representatives of three of the major victorious nations vital to the defeat of Napoleon than any question of precedence at that particular moment.

[Durham]

Originally Posted by Curryong

I’d suggest the fact that all three rode together had more to do with them being representatives of the three major victorious nations vital to the defeat of Napoleon than any question of precedence at that particular moment.

Yes I think you're probably right. That was my thinking when I first read the article.

[Curryong]

Two lower chairs for the two foreign monarchs at this ceremony however, with Prinny in the centre.

https://books.google.com.au/books?id...chs%3F&f=false

[Durham]

An interesting find Curryong. Thank you.

[Prinsara]

Crown Princes in Scandinavia are frequently Regent. Does that affect anything?

[eya]

CP Mette Marit curtseys to Queen Maxima today

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos...e-id1236460611

[LadyFinn]

Princess Désirée curteys to queen Louise, 21st February 1963.
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[Mbruno]

Originally Posted by LadyFinn

Princess Désirée curteys to queen Louise, 21st February 1963.
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Does she also curtsy to Queen Silvia?

[Wirewinder]

Further to my posting - #2507 - of 08-24-2016, here's another 'How to Curtsy' video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8P7vLD_dUo

this time in Russian, posted by a stunning young woman in a lovely summer dress.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Izzie

Question: Would Kate not have to curtsy to Mary anyway as Mary out-ranks her? Is that not the usual protocol?

How would Mary 'outrank' Catherine? Both of them are royal highnesses...

[Tarlita]

Mary is Crown Princess - that is next in line to the throne as Consort to the King.
Catherine becomes Crown Princess or in the English case Princess of Wales when Charles becomes King. In a sense Catherine is one rung down the ladder from the Crown as Queen Consort, whereas Mary is next in line as Consort.

I hope I have explained that well enough.

[Somebody]

Originally Posted by Tarlita

Mary is Crown Princess - that is next in line to the throne as Consort to the King.
Catherine becomes Crown Princess or in the English case Princess of Wales when Charles becomes King. In a sense Catherine is one rung down the ladder from the Crown as Queen Consort, whereas Mary is next in line as Consort.

I hope I have explained that well enough.

I understand the difference between the wife of a first in line to the throne and a second in line to the throne but in terms of curtseying I believe the style is more important than their husband's place in line of succession: they are both royal highnesses. Does Marie also curtsey to Mary every time they meet? I only recall both of them curtsying to HM the queen (their mother-in-law).

[Osipi]

Originally Posted by Somebody

I understand the difference between the wife of a first in line to the throne and a second in line to the throne but in terms of curtseying I believe the style is more important than their husband's place in line of succession: they are both royal highnesses. Does Marie also curtsey to Mary every time they meet? I only recall both of them curtsying to HM the queen (their mother-in-law).

I'm going to take a stab at this and suggest that I think Catherine will do a curtsey to Mary when they first meet purely out of respect for Mary being the Crown Princess of the country that Catherine is a guest in at the time. It warms my heart to see this kind of respect shown. Very similar to seeing Americans who do are not required to bow or curtsey to anybody but choose to out of respect for Queen Elizabeth II when they meet her.

[JR76]

An HRH doesn't curtsey to another HRH.
Plain and simple. If it happens, by mistake or by a conscious choice, it's not correct according to protocol.

[CrownPrincessJava]

I have never seen Catherine curtsey to any other royal, other than QEII. I have never seen her curtsey to Charles and Camilla either, who are the same level as CP Mary