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Princess Caroline of Monaco curtseys to King Hussein of Jordan in 1978
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03-10-2021, 06:25 PM
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That is funny President Giscard d' Estaing greating Philippe Junot !
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Pregnant Letizia curtsies[to Juan Carlos at the funeral of her sister, I remember who I felt sorry for her
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03-10-2021, 08:30 PM
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Does heads of states such as Albert of Monaco and Hans Adam of Liechtenstein have to bow to HM or HRH?
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03-10-2021, 08:34 PM
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Good point. I've never noticed that before but I'm sure I'll never miss it now. And always have that mental image.
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Does heads of states such as Albert of Monaco and Hans Adam of Liechtenstein have to bow to HM or HRH?
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No. Heads of State (and their spouses) do not curtsey or bow to any King or Queen. In essence, Prince Albert II of Monaco is considered the same as HM Queen Elizabeth II.
I remember a few years ago Princess Charlene of Monaco curtsied to Prince Charles, when she wasn't required to, as she is a spouse of a Head of State. It looks like she did it out of respect.
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A very nice video from YouTube, related to the danish royal weddings of the last century's.
https://youtu.be/il6IxEcLwvY
Have a look around min 3.20, when then Princess Anne-Marie from Denmark weds reigning King Konstantine of Greece. She walks down the aisle with her father, arriving to the groom she curtseys to him (normal, she is Royal Highness and he is Majesty).
Then side by side they turn in front of the invitees, she curtseys and he bows, they both do it twice. For AM is normal, but the King has not to do it.
Is it a sign of respect to his mother and his future parents in-law? As they are all Majesty?
Is it a sign of respect toward all the present Kings and Queens? As despite he is a reigning King, he is 24 years old and he should be the youngest ?
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A very nice video from YouTube, related to the danish royal weddings of the last century's.
https://youtu.be/il6IxEcLwvY
Have a look around min 3.20, when then Princess Anne-Marie from Denmark weds reigning King Konstantine of Greece. She walks down the aisle with her father, arriving to the groom she curtseys to him (normal, she is Royal Highness and he is Majesty).
Then side by side they turn in front of the invitees, she curtseys and he bows, they both do it twice. For AM is normal, but the King has not to do it.
Is it a sign of respect to his mother and his future parents in-law? As they are all Majesty?
Is it a sign of respect toward all the present Kings and Queens? As despite he is a reigning King, he is 24 years old and he should be the youngest ? |
How did she learn how to curtsy so deeply?
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03-29-2021, 02:05 PM
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How did she learn how to curtsy so deeply?
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That's the way they curtsied in royal circles back then. Her mother for instance curtsied so low in front of her husband's coffin that she was almost sitting on the floor.
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03-29-2021, 03:32 PM
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This generation if royals learned to curtsey almost in same time she learned to walk like a child.
Don't forget also that there was a young athletic girl 18 years old, who also probably had ballet courses also.
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Bowing & Curtsying...
What a gorgeous Video, and I SO agree with what you said about Princess Anne-Marie. She does show Her affection & respect by curtsying so beautifully again & again.. I must say, I absolutely LOVE Her Gown & the wonderful Royal Train...
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Originally Posted by fandesacs2003
A very nice video from YouTube, related to the danish royal weddings of the last century's.
https://youtu.be/il6IxEcLwvY
Have a look around min 3.20, when then Princess Anne-Marie from Denmark weds reigning King Konstantine of Greece. She walks down the aisle with her father, arriving to the groom she curtseys to him (normal, she is Royal Highness and he is Majesty).
Then side by side they turn in front of the invitees, she curtseys and he bows, they both do it twice. For AM is normal, but the King has not to do it.
Is it a sign of respect to his mother and his future parents in-law? As they are all Majesty?
Is it a sign of respect toward all the present Kings and Queens? As despite he is a reigning King, he is 24 years old and he should be the youngest ? |
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Agree. She is delicate and beautiful like a fairy.
Queen Anne-Marie was and still is a precious gem for the Greek throne and the whole country.
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What a gorgeous Video, and I SO agree with what you said about Princess Anne-Marie. She does show Her affection & respect by curtsying so beautifully again & again.. I must say, I absolutely LOVE Her Gown & the wonderful Royal Train...
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Anne-Marie was so poised and composed and elegant..a true princess.
It's hard to remember that she was only 18 years old! 
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03-29-2021, 09:01 PM
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Does heads of states such as Albert of Monaco and Hans Adam of Liechtenstein have to bow to HM or HRH?
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No, they don't, even though they are only HSHs.
Likewise, the Grand Duke of Luxembourg (HRH) doesn't have to bow to an HM.
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03-30-2021, 09:26 AM
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As you have seen, particularly in Prince Albert's case, a Head of State doesn't bow or curtsey to another HOS. However, Albert always shows extreme deference to HM and Prince Philip while Charlene, much to the chagrin of the purists, curtseys very deeply to HM.
Since she has done this twice since her marriage I can only imagine that both Albert and Charlene hold them both in the highest regard owing to both their age and situation. I know we surmised that Charlene's first curtsey to HM was because she was her Queen for almost all her life.
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Neither Letizia nor Mary are royal by birth, and CP Mary was not even born or raised in Europe. I suppose their pictures are not necessarily indicative of how deep European royalty curtsy.
Diana was known for particularly deep curtsies and, recently, in 2017, the Princess Royal was also seen doing a very deep curtsy to King Felipe during his UK state visit. So, I don't think there is necessarily a British/Continental divide on depth of curtsies either.
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Diana was known for particularly deep curtsies and, recently, in 2017, the Princess Royal was also seen doing a very deep curtsy to King Felipe during his UK state visit. So, I don't think there is necessarily a British/Continental divide on depth of curtsies either.
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Margaret Thatcher as well.
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Interestingly it seems that European royalty do a deep curtsey while the BRF just do a small bob. It reminds me of seeing historical movies and TV where the house maids say "yes ma'am" bob and scurry away. 
